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Is There A Trial Lawyer In The House? (Ann Coulter Slams Her Own Profession Alert)
Ann Coulter.com ^ | 09/19/2007 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 09/19/2007 3:11:52 PM PDT by goldstategop

The only "crisis" in health care in this country is that doctors are paid too little. (Also they've come up with nothing to help that poor Dennis Kucinich.)

But the Democratic Party treats doctors like they're Klan members. They wail about how much doctors are paid and celebrate the trial lawyers who do absolutely nothing to make society better, but swoop in and steal from the most valuable members of society.

Maybe doctors could get the Democrats to like them if they started suing their patients.

It's only a matter of time before the best and brightest students forget about medical school and go to law school instead. How long can a society based on suing the productive last?

You can make 30 times as much money as doctors by becoming a trial lawyer suing doctors. You need no skills, no superior board scores, no decade of training and no sleepless residency. But you must have the morals of a drug dealer. (And the bank wire transfer number to the Democratic National Committee.)

The editors of The New York Times have been engaging in a spirited debate with their readers over whether doctors are wildly overpaid or just hugely overpaid. The results of this debate are available on TimeSelect, for just $49.95.

"Many health care economists," the Times editorialized, say the partisan wrangling over health care masks a bigger problem: "the relatively high salaries paid to American doctors."

Citing the Rand Corp., the Times noted that doctors in the U.S. "earn two to three times as much as they do in other industrialized countries." American doctors earn about $200,000 to $300,000 a year, while European doctors make $60,000 to $120,000. Why, that's barely enough for Muslim doctors in Britain to buy plastic explosives to blow up airplanes!

How much does Pinch Sulzberger make for driving The New York Times stock to an all-time low? Probably a lot more than your podiatrist.

In college, my roommate was in the chemistry lab Friday and Saturday nights while I was dancing on tables at the Chapter House. A few years later, she was working 20-hour days as a resident at Mount Sinai doing liver transplants while I was frequenting popular Upper East Side drinking establishments. She was going to Johns Hopkins for yet more medical training while I was skiing and following the Grateful Dead. Now she vacations in places like Rwanda and Darfur with Doctors Without Borders while I'm going to Paris.

(Has anyone else noticed the nonexistence of a charitable organization known as "Lawyers Without Borders"?)

She makes $380 for an emergency appendectomy, or one-ten-thousandth of what John Edwards made suing doctors like her, and one-fourth of what John Edwards' hairdresser makes for a single shag cut.

Edwards made $30 million bringing nonsense lawsuits based on junk science against doctors. To defend themselves from parasites like Edwards, doctors now pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical malpractice insurance every year.

But as the Times would note, doctors in Burkina Faso only get $25 and one goat per year.

As long as we're studying the health care systems of various socialist countries, are we allowed to notice that doctors in these other countries aren't constantly being sued by bottom-feeding trial lawyers stealing one-third of the income of people performing useful work like saving lives?

But the Democrats (and Fred Thompson) refuse to enact tort reform legislation to rein in these charlatans. After teachers and welfare recipients, the Democrats' most prized constituency is trial lawyers. The ultimate Democrat constituent would be a public schoolteacher on welfare who needed an abortion and was suing her doctor.

Doctors graduate at the top of their classes at college and then spend nearly a decade in grueling work at medical schools. Most doctors don't make a dime until they're in their early 30s, just in time to start paying off their six-figure student loans by saving people's lives. They have 10 times the IQ of trial lawyers and 1,000 times the character.

Yeah, let's go after those guys. On to nuns next!

But Times' readers responded to the editorial about doctors being overpaid with a slew of indignant letters -- not at the Times for making such an idiotic argument, but at doctors who earn an average of $200,000 per year. Letter writers praised the free medical care in places like Spain. ("Nightmare" in the Ann Coulter dictionary is defined as "having a medical emergency in Spain.")

One letter-writer proposed helping doctors by having the government take over another aspect of the economy -- the cost of medical education:

"If we are to restructure the system by which we pay doctors to match Europe, which seems prudent as well as inevitable, we must also finance education as Europeans do, by using state dollars to finance the full or majority cost of higher education, including professional school."

And then to reduce the cost of medical school, the government could finance "the full or majority cost" of construction costs of medical schools, and "the full or majority cost" of the trucks that bring the cement to the construction site and the "the full or majority cost" of coffee that the truck drivers drink while hauling the cement and ... it makes my head hurt.

I may have to see a doctor about this. I should probably get on the waiting list now in case Hillary gets elected.

That's how liberals think: To fix an industry bedeviled by government controls, we'll spread the coercion to yet more industries!

The only sane letter on the matter, I'm happy to report, came from the charming town of New Canaan, Conn., which means that I am not the only normal person who still reads the Times. Ray Groves wrote:

"Last week, I had the annual checkup for my 2000 Taurus. I paid $95 per hour for much needed body work. Next month, when I have my own annual physical, I expect and hope to pay a much higher rate to my primary care internist, who has spent a significant portion of his life training to achieve his position of responsibility."

There is nothing more to say.


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Ann Coulter herself is an attorney. But she doesn't like 'em much. Especially the ones who rip off doctors and send health care costs soaring out of reach. Another good slam at a Democrat constituency group - as usual, Ann's on a roll. Enjoy!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 09/19/2007 3:11:57 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

The existence of this woman is a gift.


2 posted on 09/19/2007 3:16:44 PM PDT by NY Cajun
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To: goldstategop
"Many health care economists," the Times editorialized, say the partisan wrangling over health care masks a bigger problem: "the relatively high salaries paid to American doctors."

That has to be one of the finest written examples of class envy I have seen in a long time. And no acknowledgment of what it takes to become a doctor, no siree. Marx would be so proud of that cheesy editorial writer -- Karl, not Groucho.

3 posted on 09/19/2007 3:17:38 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: NY Cajun

I meant to add that I can’t get enough of her wit.


4 posted on 09/19/2007 3:18:36 PM PDT by NY Cajun
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To: goldstategop

$200,000 is a great salary — until you realize that $100,000 goes to pay the malpractice insurance. (Much higher if you actually deliver babies instead of, say, abort them.)


5 posted on 09/19/2007 3:18:51 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Doctors start out life as underpaid and overworked grunts. At least they do something to keep us healthy and save lives. We should be writing them letters of appreciation and thanking them for their humanitarian service. Tell me what is it lawyers do for mankind again.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 09/19/2007 3:20:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
The incompetent and sub-par will always prey on the excellent. Read Atlas Shrugged. While I'm not overwhelmed by Ayn Rand, the predators and parasites that suck the life out of Rearden Steel are symbols of people like trial lawyers and government bureaucrats. Our world would be much better off if we started decorating lampposts with their swinging corpses.
7 posted on 09/19/2007 3:21:42 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: goldstategop

Seems to me the only people who don’t like Ann Coulter are the usual suspects and their sympathizers.

What’s not to like abiut defending doctors (who make our lives better) and slamming trial lawyers (who make greed their only banner)?


8 posted on 09/19/2007 3:23:28 PM PDT by RoadTest (Osama bin Laden could deliver the keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention)
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To: goldstategop

Seems to me the only people who don’t like Ann Coulter are the usual suspects and their sympathizers.

What’s not to like abiut defending doctors (who make our lives better) and slamming trial lawyers (who make greed their only banner)?


9 posted on 09/19/2007 3:23:34 PM PDT by RoadTest (Osama bin Laden could deliver the keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention)
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To: goldstategop

Seems to me the only people who don’t like Ann Coulter are the usual suspects and their sympathizers.

What’s not to like abiut defending doctors (who make our lives better) and slamming trial lawyers (who make greed their only banner)?


10 posted on 09/19/2007 3:23:37 PM PDT by RoadTest (Osama bin Laden could deliver the keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention)
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To: goldstategop
****But as the Times would note, doctors in Burkina Faso only get $25 and one goat per year.****

My niece and her husband are christian missionary's in Burkina Faso.

11 posted on 09/19/2007 3:25:07 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (Relax everyone it's almost hockey season!!!)
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To: goldstategop
The ultimate Democrat constituent would be a public schoolteacher on welfare who needed an abortion and was suing her doctor.

Oh, wow. That is just so perfect. And absolutely Ann Coulter!

12 posted on 09/19/2007 3:26:53 PM PDT by upchuck (Psychiatrists have labeled George Bush’s South-of-the-Border obsession as mexicosis. ~ firehat)
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To: goldstategop

Ping to self.


13 posted on 09/19/2007 3:27:17 PM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: goldstategop


14 posted on 09/19/2007 3:29:45 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: goldstategop

My uncle who was an anesthesiologist (sp) paid $100,000 annually for malpractice insurance 25 years ago. I don’t know if that was average at the time because he was in a burn center and his patience were high risk and were put under more than often than “normal.”


15 posted on 09/19/2007 3:30:40 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: goldstategop

Consider the physician with many many years of education, many many long hours of residency, crushing malpractice insurance rates and $200,000 a year.

Then consider the Movie industry...Brainless twits making worthless films based on cartoons or old TV shows making millions each year...and they don’t even have to be High school graduates.


16 posted on 09/19/2007 3:32:04 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: goldstategop

Ann is so correct on this. Doctors do earn their money (the majority of them)...and should be paid well based on their training and sacrifice.

I am sure the Dems and liberal GOP who hate Coulter will deride her. Ann speaks straight up w no bull.


17 posted on 09/19/2007 3:33:31 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: monkapotamus

18 posted on 09/19/2007 3:38:37 PM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: goldstategop
I may have to see a doctor about this. I should probably get on the waiting list now in case Hillary gets elected.

Ann: I am available 24/7. Don't worry about a waiting list!

19 posted on 09/19/2007 3:39:37 PM PDT by SC DOC
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To: goldstategop
"In college, my roommate was in the chemistry lab Friday and Saturday nights while I was dancing on tables at the Chapter House."

Now there's a visual I don't really need. (Not that I don't like it, I just don't need it.
20 posted on 09/19/2007 3:40:17 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: goldstategop
Many people who are lawyers agree with the statements in this Coulter article. There are several Freeper lawyers who have, like me, resigned long ago from the American Bar Association, because the ABA has become a union just like the National "Edukashun" Association.

Both the ABA and the NEA are interested almost entirely in protecting their members from discipline, and getting them more money. Neither has the slightest interest in the social costs that the least competent (or ethical) of their members are inflicting on American society. And that is exactly the point of this article.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Lend Me Your Ears, I'll Bore You to Tears"

21 posted on 09/19/2007 3:42:37 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (2008 IS HERE, NOW. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: goldstategop

What if doctors refused to treat lawyers...?


22 posted on 09/19/2007 3:44:00 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (What you said is exactly what you intended to say.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Then consider the Movie industry...Brainless twits making worthless films based on cartoons or old TV shows making millions each year...and they don’t even have to be High school graduates.

At least the movie industry creates jobs and doesn't drive them away like trial lawyers.
23 posted on 09/19/2007 3:45:03 PM PDT by Borges
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To: goldstategop

-bflr-


24 posted on 09/19/2007 3:45:38 PM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: goldstategop

Well stated. Pay doctors less than your average auto mechanic or plumber and you will get what you pay for. Car still rattles? Tough. Pay more to another repair guy to make it better. No multimillion law suits there.


25 posted on 09/19/2007 3:48:10 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: lonestar

“anesthesiologist (sp)”

Usually when people question their spelling they’ve spelled it wrong. You got it right though, good job! :)


26 posted on 09/19/2007 3:49:10 PM PDT by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: monkapotamus

have you seen her cover pic for her new book? GRROWWRR!!


27 posted on 09/19/2007 3:53:21 PM PDT by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: goldstategop

I am still arguing we should pay doctors a small salary while in medical school, and cover the public college cost of medical education.. And of course open more slots so we have enough supply.

Right now a doctor has to go through over 10 years as a starving overworked student. Then, just when they think they’ve made it, in their mid 30’s.. they are worked super hard and long hours at low pay to ‘put their time in’.. until finally in their 40’s and 50’s they get to maek the big money.

Naturally if someone is going to make the sacrifice of having no money throughout their entire young adulthood... when its their turn they DESERVE huuuge money, plus compounding interest.. And importantly these are individuals who have the capability to excel in other disciplines. Yes there are doctors who make over a 1million a year.. but that is simply the price the way the system is now.

My idea to pay them while in school, and free schooling makes sure they aren’t making that tremendous sacrifice through their young adulthood years. In Euroland that is what they do and it works.

Then there is tort reform.. and this is a big reason I am a Romney supporter, not a Thompson supporter.


28 posted on 09/19/2007 3:53:54 PM PDT by ran20
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To: goldstategop; jellybean; carlo3b; stanz; gakrak; massfreeper; hosepipe; Donald Rumsfeld Fan; ...
Pinging the Coulter List (and you too Ron Dog)



On or off, FReepmail jellybean or ping me.

Cheers,

knewshound
29 posted on 09/19/2007 3:53:59 PM PDT by knews_hound (In order to not be banned, I no longer discuss Politics here.)
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To: goldstategop

Anne Coulter may be a lawyer, but she does not practice law, I don’t think. I would not call it her profession.


30 posted on 09/19/2007 4:06:12 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: goldstategop

Good one Ann.


31 posted on 09/19/2007 4:23:10 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: goldstategop

Once again Ann shows that she is as national treasure well worth the money she spent to get an education.


32 posted on 09/19/2007 4:25:55 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: goldstategop

Only problem is that the government is too involved...not just in the insurance side, but in protecting the “guild.”


33 posted on 09/19/2007 4:31:43 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: newheart
No wonder she is so graceful when dodging pies. I’ll be dreaming about her dancing on tables tonight. wow
34 posted on 09/19/2007 4:32:10 PM PDT by beatnick
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To: goldstategop; GMMAC
How long can a society based on suing the productive last?

Wow.

That is tagline worthy.

35 posted on 09/19/2007 4:33:59 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: goldstategop
But the Democrats (and Fred Thompson) refuse to enact tort reform legislation to rein in these charlatans.

Ding!

36 posted on 09/19/2007 4:36:04 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: IronJack

Thanks for posting.


37 posted on 09/19/2007 4:40:04 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Borges

Point to you...


38 posted on 09/19/2007 4:40:05 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: goldstategop

As much as I agree with the sentiment, I don’t know that Ann could point to any Constitutional authority for federal tort reform outside of the federal system; not without standing on the back of some really bad jurisprudence that no conservative should affirm (Commerce Clause Socialism, for instance). Fred Thompson is right on this. Most of these cases are state cases. If doctors start leaving places like WV (already started) maybe the local dipsticks will face the music.


39 posted on 09/19/2007 4:43:10 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Spiff
Ding!

Yes, even us FREDHEDS have tort reform to reckon with... I hope he "clarifies" his position on this soon, because Health Care is starting to take the public center stage again.

40 posted on 09/19/2007 4:43:27 PM PDT by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: ran20
I am still arguing we should pay doctors a small salary while in medical school, and cover the public college cost of medical education.. And of course open more slots so we have enough supply.

I agree with you about increasing the supply. But you paint a slightly more dire version of life as a doctor. They get to start living large in their 30's, not 40's. Sure they are paying back debt, but remember, the ability to borrow to buy a house is based on instantaneous income. I have several friends who are real estate agents who have sold really nice big houses to doctors in their early 30's...and yes, surgeons and other doctors who have to spend more years in school too.

41 posted on 09/19/2007 4:44:10 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: pianomikey
Yes, even us FREDHEDS have tort reform to reckon with... I hope he "clarifies" his position on this soon

But then, if y'all are consistant, you'd have to start calling him a "flip-flopper."

42 posted on 09/19/2007 4:46:03 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: goldstategop
Annie scores big with this one.
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43 posted on 09/19/2007 4:47:22 PM PDT by arbooz ("Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man." H.L.Mencken)
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To: Congressman Billybob

During my first divorce, my wife’s lawyer had a clear conflict of interest when he represented her. When I called the Mississippi Bar Association to make a complaint about his representation of her, they sent me a ten page complaint form and required me to obtain a lawyer to make a complaint. I then had a very difficult time finding a lawyer to take the case. Frustration and the lack of funds finally beat me down. What does it take to make a complaint against a physician? How easy is it to sue a doctor, a veterinarian, or anyone else...? A helluva lot easier than it is to prosecute a lawyer for conflict of interest, ethics violations and malpractice...Every time one loses a case, the lawyer that represents the person should be liable for malpractice because if the lawyer had done his job well, the person would have won their case....what is different between that and a physician’s case?


44 posted on 09/19/2007 4:48:51 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: lonestar; goldstategop
This is all making sense now.

You folks are paying twice the necessary cost of health insurance in order to pay the doctors insurance bills.
What a waste of money.
You are all just paying the lawyers.

We, in Canada, OTOH, are paying 3 times the cost necessary in order to fund the unions.

Sigh.

45 posted on 09/19/2007 4:51:03 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: goldstategop

Ann- you ROCK, girl! Still my hero!


46 posted on 09/19/2007 4:59:53 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: vetvetdoug
Every time one loses a case, the lawyer that represents the person should be liable for malpractice because if the lawyer had done his job well, the person would have won their case....

This is a common problem today....they don't care if the client wins or loses, as long as they get paid.

I had to deal with a person like that a few weeks ago. He told me he had been hired to do a certain thing. When I told him it couldn't be done, he replied that he didn't really care. As long as the client was willing to pay him to try to make it work, he would continue to take the clients money.

47 posted on 09/19/2007 5:03:08 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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48 posted on 09/19/2007 5:08:16 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: goldstategop
If I could I would clean Ann’s house daily for the next year to show my gratitude for writing that column. She doesn’t even have to be there, although that would sure be a plus. She is absolutely correct. Regarding Edwards, he is most definitely a parasite and his cerebral palsy lawsuits were based on total junk science that the Cerebral Palsy association itself does not endorse. It doesn’t matter. If you have nice hair and play the heartstrings of a handpicked jury you could win millions blaming Ovaltine for causing lung cancer in a chain smoker. One of the most profound statements in that column is one that applies universally in our society: “How long can a society based on suing the productive last?”
49 posted on 09/19/2007 5:08:49 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: cdcdawg

or, forgive me for this statement, if people started paying attention in school, disregarded the propoganda thrown at them, and as they sat on juries, stopped with the stupid judgements and outrageous awards, this crap would stop. the government is not the whole problem, nor is it the answer to the problem....we the people have to take the country back.....bottom line


50 posted on 09/19/2007 5:16:30 PM PDT by joe fonebone (When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout)
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