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Snow hits political discourse on last day (or rather Defeated immigration bill will become law..)
The washington times ^ | September 15, 2007 | Jon Ward

Posted on 09/16/2007 5:07:48 PM PDT by JSDude1

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To: whatisthetruth

Please can’t we disagree with Tony without being so angry about it. Tony is a genuinly good guy whom I respect greatly. He is wrong on this issue but there is no reason for us to hate him because of that. I for one, wish him the very best and hope that he is able to quickly recover from his fight with cancer.


41 posted on 09/16/2007 6:45:18 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Oh please, just because we disagree with him on immigration doesn’t make him a bad guy. I think he genuinly believes that this policy is best. I think he is very wrong on this issue, but I also think he is one of the most decent guys in the media today.


42 posted on 09/16/2007 6:47:25 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: SoConPubbie

Exactly; I don’t condone the actions of illigals in any sense of the word, and wish they would go home and demonstrate at Mexico City, not Washington, but I also don’t want evil upon them, or for them to die (and go to hell): If their illigal action here brings them into contact with me, you, other Christians, and God changes their life, then it was worth it! Yes, yet there must be real LEGAL consequences for their illigal behavior, and that includes a trip back to mexico for their crimes, and (that would be lenient), jail, fines would be even stricter consequences.


43 posted on 09/16/2007 6:47:30 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: John Jorsett
They sure do.

I still can't understand any scenario that makes enought sense to have them keep holding on to this position. It's just wrong, and most illegals do NOT want to be citizens...but if it were GIVEN to them...they'd take it. It's Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. R-Cheap Labor and D-New Victim Voter Group. No matter how you look at it, wrong!

44 posted on 09/16/2007 6:52:59 PM PDT by NordP (No running or relenting. The problem will be dealt with. Decisively. Systematically. Permanently.)
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To: NordP

enought = enough


45 posted on 09/16/2007 6:53:45 PM PDT by NordP (No running or relenting. The problem will be dealt with. Decisively. Systematically. Permanently.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I would remind you deportation is a civil, not a criminal, manner. When they are deported they are not charged with a felony.


46 posted on 09/16/2007 6:54:46 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: JSDude1

I like Tony, but after him calling me a child, I don’t know why. What a pipsqueak! Rather than going out gracefully, he takes time to slam objections from a broad sprectrum of Americans across party lines. Well Tony, I’ve got a news flash for you.

I also think it’s almost like watching a child misbehave in kindergarten... the only thing is, I think it is the President and yourself who have forgotten who you serve in this nation. It us, the Citizens of the United States. It is not them the citizens of Mexico.

Frankly, I think kindergarten is a little chartitable as a descriptor of the President and youself on this issue.


47 posted on 09/16/2007 7:04:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: NordP
I still can't understand any scenario that makes enought sense to have them keep holding on to this position.

Go to the capital city of any Third World country. Amidst all the poverty and filth you will find a section that is an island of wealth where the elites and powerful live. Beautiful homes, clean streets, nice cars, safety, full utilities and services.

These elites are isolated and immune from the problems and suffering of the poor around them. As long as they can live in this luxury and control all the levers of power, they don't give a damn about the rest of their nation.

At one time, save the era of the robber barons, even American elites would not have behaved in this callous way. They also respected American culture, society and its ideals. They loved their country, and in times of war (up to Vietnam) were among the first to volunteer. (Think the Kennedys, Bush the Elder, Roosevelts, Ivy League graduates.)

This new breed of American elites, however, are of a different class. They are like those Third World elites - they don't give a damn about the rest of Middle- and Lower-Class America, as long as they get theirs.

Does that help you understand?

48 posted on 09/16/2007 7:07:36 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: fantom
Who cares what snow says , he’s another political hack .

He's a hack because he disagrees with you. Grow up.

49 posted on 09/16/2007 7:11:51 PM PDT by alnick
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To: Domandred
Tony Snow was singing a different tune on immigration in the months before being Press Secretary.

No, he most certainly was not. He agreed with the President on immigration all along.

50 posted on 09/16/2007 7:13:37 PM PDT by alnick
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To: oldbill

“Nothing summed it up better than Tony’s comment on his old radio call-in show when he berated a caller with a terse comment “Would you rather pay $50,000 for your remodeling job or $30,000?”

No further thought about the citizen-tradesmen who were put out of a job by cheap illegal labor, the taxes not paid, the benefits not covered, the industry wage scales lowered, the taxpayer-funded social services expended, the neighborhoods devalued - no, not a mention of those things.

Perhaps someday, when Tony and his ilk’s policies make Spanish the predominant language, he will find his speaking and writing jobs replaced by a glib Antonio Nieve who will work a lot cheaper than him.

Tony quit a $160,000 a year job “to make more money for his family.” Too bad those $40,000 a year carpenters and painters and drywallers no longer have any job to go back to, let alone a more lucrative job spouting and writing words. Their families have lost favor with the American elites who now prefer the wonderful “family values” of the illegals.

Tony is a nice guy.....He could sell me a pizza from the family franchise. But Tony is not very bright.....has always been a horrible debater, and is for open borders. I hope he survives cancer, but he should stay out of politics.


51 posted on 09/16/2007 7:14:03 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: oldbill
Basic human dark side tendencies aside, I was talking about some bigger picture scenario...but, I hear you.
52 posted on 09/16/2007 7:18:55 PM PDT by NordP (No running or relenting. The problem will be dealt with. Decisively. Systematically. Permanently.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

“CLOSE THE FREAKIN’ BORDER, WE ARE AT WAR!”

B T T T


53 posted on 09/16/2007 7:20:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: whatisthetruth

Sorry you feel that way. You must be a democrate, right?


54 posted on 09/16/2007 7:27:19 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: dschapin

You are free to believe what you want to believe. Same here. Sorry, but we will part ways here then on it.


55 posted on 09/16/2007 7:27:48 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You were able to offer your views constructively without tearing down a person. Thank you.


56 posted on 09/16/2007 7:29:04 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JSDude1

Tony Snow is a good man, but I disagree with him about importing cheap labor.


57 posted on 09/16/2007 7:32:15 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: JSDude1

“... no political party is going to be able to survive without taking a good look at what is the fastest-growing voter bloc in America.”

Close the boarders, dammit!


58 posted on 09/16/2007 7:45:19 PM PDT by maggief
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To: JSDude1
White House press secretary Tony Snow, during his last day on
the job yesterday, lamented the state of modern political
discourse and said President Bush is right about immigration
and that his defeated plan will one day be the law.


An example of how a person can be very nice and personable.

And be pimpin' for identity theives, crimaliens and the like.

Even at the same time.
59 posted on 09/16/2007 7:49:07 PM PDT by VOA
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To: JSDude1

Hey Tony, for the sake of our country, i hope you turn out to be full of sh*t!You sound like it to me.


60 posted on 09/16/2007 7:52:24 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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