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Wow...these zero tolerance policies are something else.

Maybe she just should have said that she had been in the girls restroom...

1 posted on 09/15/2007 2:32:11 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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In PC America, teachers get fired for smelling like tobacco.

Yet in Indonesia, prostitutes get hired to roll tobacco into cigarettes.

Link to: “Indonesia: Prostitutes Offered (Tobacco) Factory Work During Ramadan (Islam = Religion Of Peace)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1897077/posts

It’s a strange world....


2 posted on 09/15/2007 2:36:47 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Let me understand this. The kid is getting a free public education PLUS one-on-one attention and it’s still not enough? Let the kid’s parents pay for the assistant of their choice. I’m tired of paying for it, smelly or not.

I’m sympathetic to the parents of special needs kids, but not to the idea that the taxpayers owe them millions of dollars worth of extra care.


3 posted on 09/15/2007 2:39:08 PM PDT by generally (Ask me about FReepers Folding@Home)
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To: Gabz; SheLion
Ping!

The degenerate eduKKKrat vermin running the school would probably be fine with some filthy ablutophobic hippy freak who smells of pot-smoke, B.O., and pachouli oil, but cigarette smoke is unacceptable. I hope she sues their asses off.

4 posted on 09/15/2007 2:39:23 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: DogByte6RER
that a doctor said the odor of smoke on Lidster had aggravated the student's allergies

Other than being a scientifically unsupportable opinion, I see no problem with this charge...

I hate the smell of fat people, and...

... never mind...

5 posted on 09/15/2007 2:41:35 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: DogByte6RER

I had a neighbor across the street who had the worst odor I’ve ever known. It was mostly cigarette smoke, but I think it was also her teeth. The husband was also a heavy smoker, and their son was not popular partially because of the odor. I could smell her coming up the walk to my front door.

It wasn’t just me. It was the talk of the neighborhood. She tried to sell us a car once. Not on your life.

Their house was horrendous. Not really dirty, just incredibly smelly. When they moved, the entire inside had to be gutted, including the walls.

Barring all this, she was quite a nice lady. Just before she moved, she got a job in customer service and I couldn’t quite believe it. She stayed there years. I always wondered who hired her.


7 posted on 09/15/2007 2:43:37 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: DogByte6RER

The political correct jihad against smoking is scary. And so is these zero tolerance laws. Zero tolerance is a classic symptom of over-centralization and bureaucracy in an organization or nation.

Our testosterone free leaders seem unable to stop it though.. they get lost in the process or deep down are political correctness jihadists themselves.


10 posted on 09/15/2007 2:51:54 PM PDT by ran20
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To: DogByte6RER

All I can do is laugh...hahahahahahaha!!!

Smoking is despicable.


12 posted on 09/15/2007 3:09:46 PM PDT by I slam Islam
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To: DogByte6RER
I know people with allergies and respiratory problems who are aggravated by all sorts of smells and fumes.

The fact is, if a person smells of anything (including smoke) that adversely effects people around them there's nothing improper about warning them and letting them go if necessary.

13 posted on 09/15/2007 3:14:45 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: DogByte6RER

No sympathy, would an adult be forced to work closey with or accept personal or intimate services from someone who’s smell was offensive?

Why should a kid have to, just because they’re a child? If the lady’s odor was noticeable enough to others that it becomes an issue, then I have no problem with termination.


14 posted on 09/15/2007 3:21:50 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("I know the fittest have not survived when I watch Congress on CSPAN.")
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To: DogByte6RER

She is an at-will employee. The employer can fire her if he didn’t like the color of her shoes.


16 posted on 09/15/2007 3:39:40 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: DogByte6RER; Gabz; SoftballMominVA; Amelia; shag377
i think leaving a voicemail to notify her she was being
let go is truly unprofessional. i also think this...

Lidster was not a good fit for the job

probably had more to do with her termination than the
smoke smell...
18 posted on 09/15/2007 3:55:01 PM PDT by leda (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: DogByte6RER
The Denton Independent School District

A public school district?

27 posted on 09/16/2007 5:26:50 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: DogByte6RER
The Denton Independent School District

A public school district?

28 posted on 09/16/2007 5:28:49 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: DogByte6RER
Based on the woman's remarks, she seems to be a bit unstable which was probably the real reason for letting her go.

However, the principal probably figured the "stinky smoker" reason would fly through unchallenged.

29 posted on 09/16/2007 6:06:06 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: DogByte6RER
One of my HS teachers reeked. Between her 2-3-4 pack a day habit and her incredible BO, it was a trial just to sit in class with her - especially in the wintertime, when we couldn't open the windows. Were I principal, I'd have fired her, too.

So.....before all of the ANTI-antismoking people jump in, there may be other forces at work.

32 posted on 09/16/2007 6:37:17 AM PDT by wbill
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To: DogByte6RER

Its not like this was a teacher sitting at the front of a room, many kids have allergies to smoke and apparently the one she was watching did. So do we keep subjecting the kid to the oder?

Eight Cigarettes a day does cause one to smell, is it the worst smell in the world? not by any means but enough to set of a reaction..


33 posted on 09/16/2007 6:40:40 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: DogByte6RER
Dynamic Denton (Texas) makes an appearance... went to Congress (now Calhoun) Jr. High and Denton High in the late 70s to mid '80.

Denton High has (maybe no longer) had a drive way between the vocational wing and the main building... all smoking students use to hang and smoke there. Use to see teachers not far away smoking near a temp. building near the alley too... I'm sure no accommodations are made for smokers now, but I don't know.

DHS Class of '84... Go Broncos... hats off to you.

44 posted on 09/16/2007 2:36:04 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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