Chinese Fighter with Stealth Feature Developed (Jian-11B)

Chosun Ilbo ^ | 09/13/07 | Lee Myung-jin

[TigerLikesRooster]

/begin my translation

Chinese Fighter with Stealth Feature Developed

Body of Russian Sukhoi-27 used, indigenously development which took 10 years

Lee Myung-jin

posted: 2007.09.13 23:52

China developed Jian-10B, a first indigenously developed fighter employing stealth technology(see photo below,) and plans to unveil it in public.

According to Chinese media on Sept. 13, it took 10 years to develop Jian-11B, based on Russia-made 'Sukhoi-27' fighter, which China assembles in Shenyang, Liaoning Province, since 1996.

Especially, while 15 square meters of Sukhoi-27' surface can be detected by radars, only 3 square meters of Jian-11B are. Jian-11B's radar can track 20 targets simultaneously, and six of them can be attacked at the same time. In comparison, Sukhoi-27 can attack only two targets simultaneously. Using new materials, it weighs 700 kg less than Sukhoi-27, and is equipped with PL-12 missiles, a improved version of Russia-made R77. Experts are of the opinion that Jian-11B is comparable to F-16 of U.S. in its combat capability, and it is to become a main fighter of Chinese Air Force along with Jian-10 whose development was completed last year. China is currently working on Jian-13, and Jian-14 fighters which will have complete stealth capability, and their development is scheduled to be completed in 2009.

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[TigerLikesRooster]

Ping!

[Flavius]

that cant be the plane

that has to have a cross section of a mountain on a radar screen

[neodad]

Looks like an F/A-18 to me.

[Jet Jaguar]

I think the word “stealth” is lost in the translation to Chinese.

The engine inlets, gear doors, and external stores are not at all stealthy.

[null and void]

It doesn’t look particularly stealthy.

Ability to track and engage multiple targets is good, I supose.

[familyop]

...thanks to our exchange student programs. Teach them how to do engineering, and they’ll rule the world with an iron PLA fist.

[Southack]

"Jian-11B's radar can track 20 targets simultaneously..."

Good thing the U.S. would never install a radar detector!

< /SARCASM >

[ought-six]

Well, the aircraft shown in the picture does not look like it has any stealth technology. But, maybe the picure shown is not the aircraft that is the subject of the article.

[timtoews5292004]

I wonder if Mr. Hsu and the Clintons had anything to do with the PLA’s ability to develop this fighter so quickly.

[null and void]

Dunno. Who was president 10 years ago?

[uncbob]

...thanks to our exchange student programs. Teach them how to do engineering, and they’ll rule the world with an iron PLA fist.

Thanks to Nixon/Kissinger ,br>
Reagan put an end to that DETENTE idiocy . Why he didn't shut the door on China also I will never know

[SampleMan]

3 square meters? Its still a barn door.

[CodeMasterPhilzar]

You're right - it has to have a huge RCS. Look at the boxy engine inlets. The rails/hard-points on the wing tips. The sharp pointed ventral fins. All the discontinuities around the elevators and engine exhausts. Not to mention from the front you apparently get to look right down the inlets at the compressor blades. It has a lot of the same features (radar speaking) of an F-14 or F-18 - in other words its going to be bright as day up there.

The only thing stealthy about this will be that by the time our fighters get to it, it'll be a smoking hole in the ground (thus off radar) after having been shot down by an AMRAAM in a beyond visual range engagement...

[mamelukesabre]

About the only stealthy thing possible I can think of looking at that pic is that it might have radar absorbing paint.

Otherwise it’s just an ordinary fighter jet.

[biggerten]

Probably uses some of that lead paint I’ve been hearing so much about.

[VaBthang4]

LOL

[MaxMax]

Blinking makes it stealthy because when you blink you can't see it.
I have to go now because my invisible rabbit needs me.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Well, maybe this is the picture of the older plane on which Jian-11B was based.

Here is a picture of Jian-11

[timtoews5292004]

The Cox Report, from a few years back, detailed all kinds of secrets that slipped out our back door and went to China, while clinton was in office.

[blam]

Your search - Jian-11b jet fighter - did not match any documents.

[Mr. Jazzy]

HA!

I would say the should “suck on it!”

[RC2]

One thing to remember here. When we developed the stealth aircraft, we then immediately developed a plan to detect the stealth aircraft and naval ships. When a new weapon is developed, immediately following that is a design that counters that new weapon. The Chinese are way behind the times. When they develop something new, we have already developed a method to detect and destroy that weapon. That is the American drive to protect ourselves. They do things under orders.

[chilepepper]

i think its definitely a translation problem - the chinese probably meant this plane has "stealeth" features, as the plane's origin is from a Communist General's orders to his underlings...

"Hsu, goeth forth and thou must stealeth the plans for the American running dog F18 fighter which we will redesign using the golden mean ratio of .61 and build under the glorious name Jian 11b"

[timtoews5292004]

That looks like a Mig-29, or a chinese copy, not a Jian-11/Su-27

[VOA]

...thanks to our exchange student programs. Teach them how to
do engineering, and they’ll rule the world with an iron PLA fist.

Some of their "plants" (students) learn First-World molecular
biology techniques in our universities.

Then they go home to China where there is no Jeremy Rifkin,
environmentalists (outside of jail), OSHA, EPA, and the like.

Thus they can REALLY use molecular biology in agriculture.

Either they'll end up owning world agriculture.
Or they'll starve the planet if they inadvertently create some
sort of super-bug/super-weed that gets out of their control.

[uncbob]

The Cox Report, from a few years back, detailed all kinds of secrets that slipped out our back door and went to China, while clinton was in office.

It was Nixon/Kissinger that opened the front door

[GAB-1955]

That’s a Sukhoi 29!

[Dahoser]

According to Chinese media on Sept. 13, it took 10 years to develop Jian-11B, based on Russia-made 'Sukhoi-27' fighter, which China assembles in Shenyang, Liaoning Province, since 1996.

Somebody help me with this math problem:

  The year 2008 minus 10 years equals whose Presidency?

[TigerLikesRooster]

I know. I cannot find it either. Maybe the real picture is not out yet.

[Ruddles]

MSG coating radar-absorptive for a couple of hours then plane needs to be repainted.

[BipolarBob]

what plane? I don’t see no plane. Veerry stealthy. Invisible as the emperors new clothes.

[Eye of Unk]

This is the latest in US stealth fighter technology.

[null and void]

It was a rhetorical question.

[puppypusher]

Even if this aircraft is not all that stealthy,the U.S. needs to start developing the technology to detect stealth aircraft and warships.

Stealth technology is like everything else.Sooner or later everyone will have it in some form,just like the atomic bomb.

[Westlander]

[sam_paine]

Looks like an F/A-18 to me.

Maybe it's a plastic model of the actual plane, and is therefore indead100% stealthy! (unless it has lead paint)

Here's the pilot.

[timtoews5292004]

ah, gotcha. next time, enclose your comment in a tag so I can pick up on it better.

[timtoews5292004]

What I meant to say is, there ought to be a “rhetorical” marker/tag, some way to know for sure.couldn’t tell just from the words.

[Holicheese]

Actually the way their stealth works is there is a loud speaker fastened to one of the hard points. The pilot keeps yelling into a microphone, “Look over there, a baby wolf!”

[llevrok]

I found the correct picture of the Chinese stealth fighter. You can hardly see it

[null and void]

I have that same effect in person...

[Master of Orion]

Chinese Fighter

[PLMerite]

“...engage multiple targets is good, I supose.”

Yeah, it can volly-fire all it’s missiles as it turns and runs.

[Zeppo]

According to Chinese media on Sept. 13, it took 10 years to develop Jian-11B

It takes a long time to smuggle engineering drawings all the way to China, huh... One disk drive at a time, no doubt...

[Brucifer]

LOL!

[Gengis Khan]

It took the Chinese 10 years to copy a Su-27?

[mcshot]

I’m impressed where ever it is.

[HamiltonJay]

The culmination of the 1996 Clinton Gore campaign cash for military secrets....

Gotta love it....

[Bender2]

Gadzooks! That bizzy bottom of that SU-27 knockoff... even shows up on my gaydar!

If that is the best they can come up with for stealth... , to coin a phrase, "They haven't a chinaman's chance!"

You have such a way... with words, my dear Bender!