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*Mexico Consulates (in USA) Won't Grant Visas to Central American Illegals Going Home" (TRANSLATION)
Hoy Internet (translated to English) ^ | 12 September 2007 | Paula Diaz, Diaro de Hoy

Posted on 09/12/2007 11:33:40 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

TITLE: "Mexican Consulates (in USA) Refuse to Grant Visas to Central American Undocumented Immigrants"

By Paula Diaz Diaro Hoy (213-237-4582) pdiaz@hoyllc.com

11 of September, 2007

(TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH FROM SPANISH FOR FREEPERS. From the Original "Consulados de México niegan visas a centroamericanos indocumentados")

Los Angeles -- The Consulates of Honduras and Guatemala have expressed their concern about the problems that face undocumented immigrants from Central America, in the United States, when they wish to try to transit back through Mexico to go back to lands of their origin and return home.

The Central American diplomats said that the Consulates of Mexico in the U.S. do not grant visas to Central Americans who do not have or display legal documentation for them to be in the United States, even if those people only wish to travel through Mexican territory so that they can go back to their homelands.

"We have had several cases of some Hondurans who, after living in the U.S.A., decided to return to Honduras wit their possessions, and they are experiencing this problem (with Mexico). Mexico will not grant them visas, complained Vivian Panting, Consul General of Honduras. "This is something that many people do not know and find out only when they have begun their journey homeward."

"We had the case of one person who appeared before the Consulate of Mexico to ask for a transit visa because she had made up her mind to return to her country, and the Mexican Consulate refused her because she did not have documents which made her legal in the United States", she added.

Panting indicated that this represents an additional cost for which already they are prepared to initiate their trip.

On the other hand, the Consul of Guatemala, Milton Alvarez, indicated that also he has had similar cases reported to his consulate in the U.S.: People who wish to return to Guatemala but the cannot make this trip to repatriate to Guatemala over land because Mexico denies them visas.

Responding to this, Mireya Magaña, a spokeswoman of the Consulate of Mexico in Los Angeles, indicated that it is a question of following the lawas of her country.

"Their are established legal requirements in place whereby a visa for Mexico to nationals of a third country are required a valid passport, plus the valid visa of the third country they are in (in this case, the United States), plus a statement of their fiscal situation," said Magaña. "If they have these three requirements, the processing is very fast and we can issue a visa for all citizens of Central American countries. In the case of El Salvador, it will be a stamp, not a visa proper".

Magaña confirmed that, in conformance with these Mexican legal requirements, the Central American undocumented people are not able to obtain a Mexican visa.

In the webpage of Internet of the Secretary of External Relations of Mexico (SRE) the requirements necessary are detailed to obtain a transit visa to move across Mexico. Among them are: to present/display a passport or identity card which states the nationality of the traveler, the official admission of his or herself to a third country and to verify not to have impediment some for its readmisión in the country where it tries to document itself or in the one of origin. Not to fulfill these requirements, implies that the visa is denied, states the Mexican Government website.


TOPICS: Extended News; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; blackkettle; borders; consulates; elvira; hipocrasia; hypocrisy; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immmigration; mexico; undocumented; visas
Holy Enchilada!!

Did we Freepers ever hit the JACKPOT by finding and translating this article into English--showing the Mexican government's complete and abject HYPOCRISY on this issue.

This takes away any argument they have about Mexicans being given any kinds of rights in our country if they are on our soil in opposition to our laws.

Hypocrites! I mean, you cannot make this stuff up.

This pours more water than Hoover Dam can hold back, on Mexico and their newest saint, Elvira Arellano, and the "plight" of all illegal Mexican nationals in the United States.

1 posted on 09/12/2007 11:33:42 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; rabscuttle385
wow.

speechless

(but not surprised)

more talking points for our side

2 posted on 09/12/2007 11:35:56 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I thought it’s a ‘public secret’ that Mexico actually has one of the most strict immigration law? Strict when it comes to people (mostly poorer Latin Americans) coming to their country, that is.


3 posted on 09/12/2007 11:41:57 PM PDT by paudio
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To: DoughtyOne

Just another new twist to Mexico’s unfathomable audacity and hypocrisy on this whole sick issue of their illegals on OUR territory.


4 posted on 09/12/2007 11:44:00 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: paudio
“I thought it’s a ‘public secret’ that Mexico actually has one of the most strict immigration law? Strict when it comes to people (mostly poorer Latin Americans) coming to their country, that is.”

They prefer to be the invader, not the invadee. Perfectly reasonable, from their perspective. Honestly, how can they complete their conquest - with the permission of the US government - of the United States if they’re invaded themselves?

5 posted on 09/12/2007 11:44:40 PM PDT by Infidel1571
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To: paudio

I knew about the Mexicans’ brutal treatment of Central Americans on their southern border at the same time demanding rights on OUR soil, but it is rare to get official, foolish public quotes right out in the open from the Mexican government in the US that shows their amazing hypocrisy. A real keeper.


6 posted on 09/12/2007 11:45:24 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Mexicans have always been hypocrites about this stuff. Their border starts where the Belize border ends. Belizeans who want to go to Cancun are required to go get a visa, if you want to go to Chetumal (which is closer to the border with Belize), you either have to show a passport, or some sort of card that’s run through the computer. It’s not as if they wave bye to you as you drive by in your vehicle.


7 posted on 09/12/2007 11:45:51 PM PDT by psjones (u)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Good find. Send to Michelle Malkin and FAIR


8 posted on 09/12/2007 11:46:42 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Do you know how to ping them?


9 posted on 09/12/2007 11:47:06 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: All

“We had the case of one person who appeared before the Consulate of Mexico to ask for a transit visa because she had made up her mind to return to her country, and the Mexican Consulate refused her because she did not have documents which made her legal in the United States”, she added.


Immigration problem solved... Mexico obviously believes that all in the US need legal documents... /sarc


10 posted on 09/12/2007 11:47:15 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats)
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To: psjones

The more I read about it, the more disgusted I get with them, the Mexican Government. And these are people President Bush would say are our “friends” and people whom Fred Thompson would say “we love”.


11 posted on 09/12/2007 11:48:23 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Clearly Mexico wants the monopoly on illegal work in the US.
12 posted on 09/12/2007 11:55:10 PM PDT by chaos_5 (The Democrats are Communists)
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To: az_gila
I am serious. I think Tom Tancredo or Duncan Hunter, or both of them should write an open, sarcastic letter to the Secretary of External Relations of Mexico. I will even help draft it. Then release it to the media just as soon as the stamp on the letter has dried and they post it.

"Excellency,

We trust matters are fine with you. It would be our pleasure to request an official visit to you in your offices in Mexico City. We propose a delegation of Congressional members from the United States intent on studying the immigration and border policies of various nations in our hemisphere.

We note with particular interest the current approach to immigration adopted by your esteemed government. Our Congressional study group wishes to study the methods of detaining and explusion of illegal immigrants on Mexican soil, and furthermore your successful program of denying transit to third nation nationals on your soil. We believe there are many aspects of current Mexican immigration law and policy which might be adopted in our own country and we would be most pleased if you and your staff could allot some time for our study mission, With our highest considerations, Sincerely," ===(list of Congressional signers)===".

Even as a sarcastic joke, it ought to be done.

13 posted on 09/12/2007 11:55:15 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Mexico is a POS narco-state. It’s a state of chaos with an ineffectual nominal government at the top


14 posted on 09/12/2007 11:57:08 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: AmericanInTokyo

writemalkin@gmail.com

stein@fairus.org <stein@fairus.org

apwebmaster@mindspring.com


15 posted on 09/13/2007 12:02:50 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: AmericanInTokyo
If the translation is correct, it should be sent to some talk show hosts and TV commentators.  

 

16 posted on 09/13/2007 12:04:01 AM PDT by OneHun
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To: dennisw

Thanks. I will do it (providing nobody else beats me to it).


17 posted on 09/13/2007 12:10:02 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

We must be terrified of losing Mexico’s oil or gas. Other than that, we should just close the friken border until they get religion. If Mexico want’s to play hard ball, then we should just shut down their economy until they wake up. And when you think about it, you’d be hitting the elite of Mexico the worst, since they’ve arranged it so they make all the money.

I’ve had it with Mexico. Let me rephrase that. I had had it with them after 1986. That was their last chance to get their act together for me.


18 posted on 09/13/2007 12:10:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: OneHun

Babelfish (Translator) used—to save time—with human touch-up/double-check afterwards to de-Yoda-ize the English.


19 posted on 09/13/2007 12:10:53 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: dennisw

bump


20 posted on 09/13/2007 12:12:54 AM PDT by GeronL (Puh-leeze join my fantasy football league, Yahoo, ID# 748109, password: better)
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To: DoughtyOne

Canada is #1
Mexico is #2 oil/energy suppliers to America. Definitely our Mexico policies keep this in mind. We don’t want a Hugo Chavez on our border


21 posted on 09/13/2007 12:13:01 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Essentially we do though. They’ve invaded our nation and blackmail us every day.

I do agree with your comments, but it’s getting real old.


22 posted on 09/13/2007 12:19:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"Babelfish (Translator) used—to save time—with human touch-up/double-check afterwards to de-Yoda-ize the English."

 That will do it!  Thanks for the info.

 

23 posted on 09/13/2007 12:45:08 AM PDT by OneHun
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To: AmericanInTokyo; dennisw

http://hotair.com/about/

The bottom of this link has emails for the lovely (and that is the truth) Michelle Malkin and her cohorts at hotair.com.

Just giving your fingers more exercise, AIT, in addition to those addresses Dennis provided.

Adelante! Si, se puede.


24 posted on 09/13/2007 12:57:56 AM PDT by bajabaja
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To: bajabaja

indocumentados unidos jamas sera victoriosos


25 posted on 09/13/2007 1:00:39 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
...and the "plight" of all illegal Mexican nationals in the United States...

The only Mexican "plight" is the loss of billions in remittances if we could locate, corral and deport all of the illegals.

26 posted on 09/13/2007 1:08:12 AM PDT by woofer (Earth First! We'll mine the other eight later.)
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To: GeronL

topetón


27 posted on 09/13/2007 1:08:40 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: woofer
You said it woofer, you said it!
28 posted on 09/13/2007 1:32:56 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Amazing find. Well, pretty soon Mexico will simply announce that they’ve annexed the US. Period.


29 posted on 09/13/2007 2:49:08 AM PDT by hershey
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The more I read about it, the more disgusted I get with them, the Mexican Government. And these are people President Bush would say are our “friends” and people whom Fred Thompson would say “we love”.

Jorge Arbusto may someday become the most hated man in the memory of living Americans, and the way he conducts himself one would think that was his goal.

Fred will be much better. I know he will because he plays such reassuring characters in the movies. And he's now tough as nails on the border issue, don't you know.

30 posted on 09/13/2007 3:04:44 AM PDT by US at Risk (There are times when the important trumps the urgent.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Racist Mexican Bastards. Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges!


31 posted on 09/13/2007 4:31:11 AM PDT by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: US at Risk
I enjoyed your post.

Morning Bump for the MORNING CROWD!

32 posted on 09/13/2007 5:22:05 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: Humble Servant

What you said!


33 posted on 09/13/2007 5:22:19 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: hershey

They already tried through a large billboard in Southern California for a Mexican TV station.


34 posted on 09/13/2007 5:23:06 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Humble Servant

Thank you! And congratulations to AIT for ‘catch of the day’. C(sh)ould be a HUGE scoop.


35 posted on 09/13/2007 6:31:28 AM PDT by US at Risk (Thank God for free speech and the internet.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"Just another new twist to Mexico’s unfathomable audacity and hypocrisy on this whole sick issue of their illegals on OUR territory."

Well, that's the point. Mexico doesn't consider it OUR territory. They demand THEIR land back, but I guess they've expanded THEIR land to include Chicago, Seattle, New Orleans, and the rest of the US. Canada comes next, I guess.

36 posted on 09/13/2007 6:47:47 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; call meVeronica; AnimalLover; rineaux; Roamin53; genxer; time4good; NoTaxTexas; ...

¡Hipocresía mexicana ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


37 posted on 09/13/2007 8:27:22 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


38 posted on 09/13/2007 9:34:12 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You and I may not like it, but the Mexican government and its consulates in the U.S. are doing an excellent job of representing the interests of MEXICAN CITIZENS. The fact that this comes at OUR expense is not a concern of the Mexican government which was elected, after all, to defend the interests of Mexicans. The real problem is, THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT ISN’T DEFENDING THE INTERESTS OF AMERICANS. I am not mad at the Mexican government, but I am livid that our government doesn’t push back on our behalf.


39 posted on 09/13/2007 9:46:03 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Mexico is our enemy. Sounds extreme doesn’t it? But think about it.

Here is a nation who encourages it’s citizens to illegally break into our country and illegally use our social services.

When their dual citizens commit crimes here, they fight all our laws and defend the guilty perps, always demanding leniency.

They demand we change our laws to suit them and stop defending our border. Their president tells us if a Mexican is in our country, it’s MEXICO!

47 of our citizens have been kidnapped in their country, but....oh, well!

Barbaric beheadings and reporter murders have taken place less often in Mexico than only one other place on earth. Iraq.

Mexico is the biggest drug conduit on earth and most of it is brought here.

Their organized crime gangs run rampant in our cities, National parks and forests.

Mexico’s citizens march in OUR streets, waving a foreign flag, demanding rights no person has a right to.

More people have died on US soil at the hands of Mexico’s citizens than have been lost to ANY foreign country since the 1700’s fight for our independence.

We’ve invaded and made war on nations with a lot less provocation.


40 posted on 09/13/2007 9:55:19 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

For a while, I have been saying that we should make the illegals, mostly Mexican, feel at home. We should apply the Mexican immigration law when dealing with them.

Nobody can scream bloody murder, racists, bigots, Latino haters, etc.

The illegals in question crossed our southern border with the agreement of the Mexican government. Either they go and cross it back (we won’t stop them) which is scary or we dump them over the border and have Mexico deal with them for entering Mexico illegally in the first place.

This is not our problem, it’s Mexico’s problem.


41 posted on 09/13/2007 11:25:28 AM PDT by melancholy (Quiz: name one country, other than the USA, that doesn't control its borders.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“Hypocrites! I mean, you cannot make this stuff up.”

Nope....PERFECT!


42 posted on 09/13/2007 12:16:38 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Because being in Mexico illegally is more serious than being here illegally.


43 posted on 09/13/2007 12:18:25 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I'm not surprised that the Mexicans are hypocrites.

They don't want the Central Americans settling in Mexico!

44 posted on 09/13/2007 12:37:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: US at Risk

Why THANKS. Lets spread the word.


45 posted on 09/13/2007 3:46:08 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: 3AngelaD

You have to bring up anger from within the depths of your spirit toward the MEXICAN GOVERNMENT, IMHO, in the first place, to challenge them and their hypocrisy. But I see what you mean, 3AD.


46 posted on 09/13/2007 3:49:16 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: gubamyster

Bttt!


47 posted on 09/13/2007 5:44:35 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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