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Posh dorms, amenities becoming the norm on college campuses
Associated Press ^ | September 14, 2007

Posted on 09/10/2007 5:51:48 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Somewhere along the way, college life has gotten a whole lot more posh.

On a number of campuses, students are able to hire personal maids to clean and do their laundry. They pay moving crews to pack and transport their stuff — plasma TVs and other high-end electronics included. And they’re living large in housing that looks like anything but a dorm.

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Upscale housing and other perks also fit with some parents’ expectations, especially those whose children attend the priciest private schools.

“It makes the $40,000 tuition worth it,” says Brian Altomare, the 25-year-old president and founder of Madpackers, a Manhattan-based moving company for students.

This fall, his company added one-off limousine rides so student customers can arrive at school “like a rock star.” The company also plans to offer grocery delivery and cleaning and laundry services — something other companies, such as Valet Today and DormAid, already do.

Many students say housing amenities, in particular, play a big role when deciding which school to attend.

That worries some education watchdogs, who believe the focus on living the good life is driving up the already burdensome cost of college — and causing some students to ask for more grants and rack up more debt than they normally would.

“Students and school employees are living in increasing luxury while taxpayers are getting soaked,” says Neal McCluskey, a policy analyst for the Center for Educational Freedom at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: academia; college; dorms; highereducation

1 posted on 09/10/2007 5:51:53 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

My daughter goes to a big school and I never heard of anything like that. It doesn’t surprise me, though.

I fear for this country when these kids are parents and unable to take care of themselves. These kids will be helpless when reality smacks them upside the head someday.


2 posted on 09/10/2007 5:56:31 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: reaganaut1
With tuition as expensive as a new house, its not surprising students expect more for the money.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 09/10/2007 5:59:09 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: reaganaut1
If the kids are using the time that would otherwise be spent doing laundry,etc in pursuits such as studying.....

But somehow I doubt it.

4 posted on 09/10/2007 5:59:18 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: reaganaut1

I’ve heard of some real slum-like conditions for students in dorms.


5 posted on 09/10/2007 6:00:04 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: reaganaut1

There is no downward pressure on education costs because taxpayer-funded aid always keeps pace with costs. Eventually, it gets to the point where not even wasteful and extravagant academia can soak up that much money, and it starts getting spend on maids and limos.

Within a couple of years, in-room “physical therapy” will wind up getting charged back to the taxpayer. Just wait and see.


6 posted on 09/10/2007 6:03:38 AM PDT by gridlock (I don't support Hillary Clinton because I am afraid of strong women.)
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To: reaganaut1

This is how they build leaders?

My cousin graduated from Princeton in the mid 1970’s. About ten years ago, I visited the campus with him. He explained to me about the distances he had to walk between classes, having to get membership in a dining club to be able to eat, etc. It seemed pretty rough for what I thought was a high cost school for the privileged.

I graduated from a small town college, and I lived with my parents during my years as a student. I had it much easier. Then it occured to me that the Ivy League used to want to train leaders, and build leadership skills and attitudes, while my school was training technicians (I’m an accountant). He was learning that there was a responsibility attached to the privilege of attending the Ivy League, and being an Ivy League alumnus. There were a variety of skills that my cousin either learned, or he would not have it in Princeton. Since then he has used those skills to build a very impressive career for himself.


7 posted on 09/10/2007 6:04:57 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: reaganaut1
No, contrary to the quote in the article, it does NOT make the $40,000 a year cost worth it.

But hey, the kids are getting the best left wing indoctrination money can buy. They live in luxury paid for by somebody else and get to pay lip service to saving the great unwashed while their maid picks up after them.

My favorite was two liberal phoneys at law school who used to have serious discussions that they were going to make so much money, they would just have to put an extension on their homes and invite a homeless person to live there.

8 posted on 09/10/2007 6:07:11 AM PDT by Williams
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To: sinanju
I’ve heard of some real slum-like conditions for students in dorms.

I used to clean dorm rooms at the end of the semester, after the kids moved out, back when I was at school. The job paid double any other student job, because they could not keep anybody doing it for more than a day. I would work like a dog for three weeks in the summer and over Christmas break, and pay my tuition for the year.

But, I gotta tell you, some of the things we found were beyond human belief. No kidding.

9 posted on 09/10/2007 6:08:29 AM PDT by gridlock (I don't support Hillary Clinton because I am afraid of strong women.)
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To: reaganaut1

Nancy Pelosi told us that she’d make college more affordable. Apparently, she succeeded.


10 posted on 09/10/2007 6:11:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: gridlock

My dorm room at Iowa was so cold we could freeze a can of beer just by leaning it against a window.


11 posted on 09/10/2007 6:12:56 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: reaganaut1

These wonderful kids are too busy with their sociology classes, feminist studies programs, black studies programs, getting masters degrees in boinkology, to clean up after themselves


12 posted on 09/10/2007 6:13:20 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: metmom

It makes good business sense for a college to offer this kind of facility to those who can afford it, and are willing to pay. I don’t know why they did not think of it sooner.


13 posted on 09/10/2007 6:13:55 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
My dorm room at Iowa was so cold we could freeze a can of beer just by leaning it against a window.

A conclusion derived from thorough experimentation, I'm sure...

14 posted on 09/10/2007 6:14:14 AM PDT by gridlock (I don't support Hillary Clinton because I am afraid of strong women.)
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To: sinanju

There used to be, but that is disappearing. Schools have to stay competitive and an increasingly key way is through the quality of the dorms. There’s usually a range of options from no-frills to comfort. Nice dorms are a profit center for schools.


15 posted on 09/10/2007 6:14:20 AM PDT by twigs
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To: gridlock

Write down your adventures in condom-removal, maybe it could be worked into the next “American Pie” installment.


16 posted on 09/10/2007 6:14:47 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: reaganaut1

Apparently these kids are preparing to live their lives as part of a Gilded Aristocracy. They are in for a rude awakening after the islamofascist takeover.


17 posted on 09/10/2007 6:18:48 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Major: Text Message Science

Minor: Ipod Management

18 posted on 09/10/2007 6:21:28 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: gridlock

It was a terrible loss, for sure.


19 posted on 09/10/2007 6:26:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: sinanju

Condom removal was the least of it. That barely rated.

Course, I was wearing gloves that went up past the elbows and rubber gardeners boots at all times. For the bad ones, I had a rubber apron and a face shield.


20 posted on 09/10/2007 6:28:57 AM PDT by gridlock (I don't support Hillary Clinton because I am afraid of strong women.)
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To: metmom
These kids will be helpless when reality smacks them upside the head someday.

Indeed. Nowadays it's all about keeping their fragile self esteem intact.

21 posted on 09/10/2007 6:31:06 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: reaganaut1

Why not just hire a surrogate to attend college classes, write papers and take exams? College can then be nothing but a non-stop party at Mom and Dad’s expense.


22 posted on 09/10/2007 6:42:00 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: metmom

I went to Michigan in the 70s. You could get laundry service and one dorm had maid service. Vendors sold loft beds and you could get someone to put them together. I rented a fridge and when my son went, he had a fridge and microwave. My roommate brought a tv and stereo. Life was good.

I don’t see any of this as the end of the world. When I went to school I took a typewriter and a radio; kids these days take their computer, mp3 players, tvs, etc.

I had the chance to go back and visit my old freshman dorm room. It was more packed with stuff than mine had been, but it looked like the normal stuff a young person would have in their room at home. The republic will survive. The kids will learn discipline and sacrifice when they start paying those student loans. : )


23 posted on 09/10/2007 6:45:08 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: metmom

Universities are the only business where the end product has no warranty of merchantability.

You get a degree that is essentially worthless because it really only matters who you know in you selected line of work.

Imagine if a student loan could be discharged in bankrupcty and a university lose money for graduates who can get a job.


24 posted on 09/10/2007 6:45:13 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
You get a degree that is essentially worthless because it really only matters who you know in you selected line of work.

An elite degree just means you were smart enough to be admitted to an elite university. Employers just hope they didn't damage you too much while you were there.

25 posted on 09/10/2007 7:07:12 AM PDT by gridlock (I don't support Hillary Clinton because I am afraid of strong women.)
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To: metmom
I went to UGA in the 60s/70s and the dorms for men had communial bathrooms, basic furniture, no refrigerators, kitchens, or TVs.
My Son graduated from Georgia Tech in 98 and his dorms (after Freshman year) had shared private baths, kitchens, refrigerators, shared living rooms with TV (I think privately owned). It was a big difference from my dorm room.
26 posted on 09/10/2007 7:49:15 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
My dorm room at Iowa was so cold we could freeze a can of beer just by leaning it against a window.

That's because they used Iowa grads to design and engineer the building.

27 posted on 09/10/2007 8:59:03 AM PDT by Defiant (Hunter if we can; Thompson if we can't; Romney if we must, Rudy if we wanna lose.)
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To: Defiant
You might be on to something. Iowa State does produce better veterinarians and dairy science grads.
28 posted on 09/10/2007 9:09:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Sorry, Eric, I couldn’t resist.


29 posted on 09/10/2007 9:14:50 AM PDT by Defiant (Hunter if we can; Thompson if we can't; Romney if we must, Rudy if we wanna lose.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Iowa State does produce better veterinarians and dairy science grads.

They obviously aren't producing any football players.

30 posted on 09/10/2007 9:18:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

We’ll find out next Saturday in Ames, eh ?


31 posted on 09/10/2007 9:20:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Well seeing as how Iowa State has already lost at home to such powerhouses as Northern Iowa and Kent State, let’s just say, I think I’m favoring the Hawkeyes in that one.


32 posted on 09/10/2007 9:26:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
My husband & I lived in 'married couples housing' when he went back to Georgia Tech for his Masters degree..

We had an old, old apartment on campus that had Palmetto bugs (cockroaches) the size of barns flying across the room...

When he was an undergrad his dorm was basic desk, chair, bed and not much more.

This was ahem a number of years ago.

33 posted on 09/10/2007 9:39:39 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: dfwgator
Regarding Iowa engineers, I'll pass along a true story (I witnessed this.)
As the campus expanded, the university's power plant needed more steam and a larger chilled water plant in the 1970s. The staff decided to tear out two older chain grate coal units and replace them with Riley spreader stoker units. These stokers feature a traveling grate running from the back of the boiler to the front in an endless loop where, presumably, the coal had been burned and turned to ash, with the ashes dropping into the ash pit below the grate. A flipping mechanism (the spreader) tosses the stoker coal from the bin to the rear of the furnace. Some burns in mid air and most burns during the travel time on the grate.
Unfortunately, there wasn't room in the building for an ash pit on the front of the stokers since the old chain grates had dumped ashes off the back end. The engineers chained the direction of the grate so that coal flipped to the back and ashes dropped off the back end, causing an endless series of fires in the ash pit that almost burned down the power plant building. This was finally corrected by changing the size of the stoker coal and reducing the distance the spreader was able to throw the coal...
34 posted on 09/10/2007 9:41:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Williams
"My favorite was two liberal phoneys at law school who used to have serious discussions that they were going to make so much money, they would just have to put an extension on their homes and invite a homeless person to live there."

I work with one of their cousins. She gripes about how unfair tax cuts are in one breath and then brags about the huge house she and her "partner" (the man she married, but she will not use the word "husband" because she thinks it is sexist) in Madison, WI.

I am turning in my notice on Thursday of this week. I can't say I am unhappy about it.

35 posted on 09/10/2007 10:00:28 AM PDT by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: reaganaut1
Thirty years ago I thought my dorm was so cool! My daughter attends the same University but instead of being impressed she thought the dorm was a dump. Of course she has lived in two brand new homes where everything was "clean and shiny" so to move to a 45 year old dorm room was a let down to her.

She is in an apartment now that is nicer than our first home!

36 posted on 09/10/2007 11:33:28 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Fred Thompson 2008)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
I quit high school, took a GED, and Enlisted in the United States Navy in 1968.

I lived out of a seabag for the first few years.

It was a tremendous education.

What a letdown it was to enroll in college after my hitch was up.

I did the right thing and didn't spend all of Daddy's money.

However, I did hit up Uncle Sam for all he was worth.

37 posted on 09/10/2007 1:18:30 PM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: reaganaut1

One may only hope the ‘amenities’ will offset to some limited degree, the sour taste of the collectivist faculty lectures.


38 posted on 09/10/2007 1:26:39 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: gridlock; Eric in the Ozarks

A pal of mine who was at Oxford in the late ‘70s (and eventually took a First in Classics) used to say that winters there were so cold that one had to break the ice in the sink basins before using them as urinals.


39 posted on 09/10/2007 2:17:57 PM PDT by Tenniel2 (The heroes of Flight 93 diverted the wrong plane.)
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To: battlegearboat

You earned it.


40 posted on 09/10/2007 2:32:15 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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