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Israeli neo-Nazi ring caught after attacks on synagogues
Guardian-UK ^
| 9-10-07
| Conal Urquhart
Posted on 09/09/2007 5:38:42 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
Police in Israel have uncovered a neo-Nazi ring which was responsible for vandalising synagogues and carrying out attacks on Jews and foreign workers in Israel, a court was told yesterday.
The group of eight Russian immigrants aged between 18 and 21 appeared in court following an 18-month investigation into attacks on two synagogues in which swastikas were painted on the walls of the buildings. The men covered their heads with their shirts during the hearing, revealing arms tattooed with Nazi imagery.
More than a million people from the former Soviet Union have emigrated to Israel, which has a population of seven million, since 1990, taking advantage of Israel's Law of Return which allows anyone to claim citizenship if they have a Jewish grandparent. Many of the new immigrants have little connection to Judaism and emigrated for economic reasons.
Many Russians live in large communities in Israel's cities in which they have little interaction with other Israelis.
They have their own supermarkets where pork is available, unlike in the majority of stores. Russians feel they are victims of discrimination in Israel and many are denied the right to marry by the Jewish authorities. Police named the leader of the neo-Nazi gang as Eli Boanitov, 19, from Petah Tikvah, a city next to Tel Aviv.
Boanitov, who was known as "Eli the Nazi", told police: "I won't ever give up. I was a Nazi and I will stay a Nazi, until we kill them all I will not rest." In one conversation recorded by the police, Boanitov tells one of his fellow gang members: "My grandfather was a half-Jewboy. I will not have children so that this trash will not be born with even a tiny per cent of Jewboy blood.........
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TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: antisemitic; israel; nazi; neonazi; weird
Weird! Looks like the "Law of Return" has a downside.
To: Anti-Bubba182
Among all the weridos in the world I find neo-Nazi's the most pathetic. American neo-Nazis?! I don't get it, at all. Your grandparents fought and died to keep America free. So I thought there was nothing more bizarre possible, but Israeli neo-Nazis! That tops everything. They should all be deported back to Russia.
many are denied the right to marry by the Jewish authorities. This needs amplification...
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posted on
09/09/2007 5:44:25 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: Anti-Bubba182
Nothing different from the self-hating Jews here like Chuck Schumer.
To: Jack Black
I like to think Israel will do more to them then deportation. I hope by the time they are done with them they will have wished they had been deported.
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posted on
09/09/2007 5:51:44 PM PDT
by
Kimmers
To: Anti-Bubba182
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posted on
09/09/2007 5:53:21 PM PDT
by
SIDENET
(Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
To: Anti-Bubba182
"...taking advantage of Israel's Law of Return which allows anyone to claim citizenship if they have a Jewish grandparent."
Maybe before long, the law will require that immigrant parents (at least one parent of each family) have a Jewish mother or conversion before becoming citizens. We'll see.
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posted on
09/09/2007 5:57:20 PM PDT
by
familyop
(cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been, will write Duncan Hunter in)
To: Anti-Bubba182
"My grandfather was a half-Jewboy. I will not have children so that this trash will not be born with even a tiny per cent of Jewboy blood.........
There is nothing better then planned obsolescence, except perhaps self inflicted kind.
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posted on
09/09/2007 5:59:18 PM PDT
by
usmcobra
(I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
To: Anti-Bubba182
Weird! Looks like the "Law of Return" has a downside.Not too surprising. The Law of Return was designed to get people to go to Israel and it was designed to cast a fairly wide net. It caught some losers in the process, which is what happens when you cast a wide net. If these folks were given citizenship, it may be very difficult to deport them after punishment. However, I point out that the reason for this is that Israel is a land under the rule of law, unlike most of the other states in the area.
To: Anti-Bubba182
The Law Of Return needs to be amended. This trash should be deported from Israel. There is no place for foreign anti-Semites in the Jewish State.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
09/09/2007 5:59:46 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: Anti-Bubba182
So, Russia sucks sooo bad even the nazis will settle in Israel?
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:01:08 PM PDT
by
359Henrie
(We need Gen. Curtis Le May, Liberals give us Gen. Wesley Clark.)
To: familyop
Exactly. The Law Of Return should reflect Halakah. Only those born of a Jewish mother or who have converted to Judaism in accordance with Halakah should be eligible to immigrate to Israel.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:01:37 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: usmcobra
That doesn't make him Jewish. The Jewish principle is Jewish identity is acquired through matrilineal descent. The other method is conversion to Judaism.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:03:55 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
So why is the nazi there?
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:09:21 PM PDT
by
usmcobra
(I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
To: Anti-Bubba182
Send them back to their former country..
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:12:02 PM PDT
by
sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
To: usmcobra
Due to the wide scope of the Law Of Return, a lot of gentiles immigrated to Israel because they had a Jewish ancestor. And that resulted in people settling in Israel who have no attachment to Judaism or love of the country. Hopefully this case will finally compel Israel's government to do what Orthodox groups have wanted for a long time: define immigration and citizenship in accordance with the Jewish Law, the Halakah.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:12:56 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: Anti-Bubba182
Israelis probably thought to allow anyone with even a minimal amount of jewishness because of the Nuremberg laws. That is, in case there is a future Hitler, these half Jews would find refuge. Ironic that this policy ended up bringing nazis into israel.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:23:41 PM PDT
by
ari-freedom
(I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
To: 17th Miss Regt
The need to take a hard look at that law and who returns and how they behave in Israel. How many are criminals or other deviants? These NeoNazis could not be typical but numbers alone are not the answer to the survival of Israel.
To: Anti-Bubba182
Fascism is a cultural movement. It swept Europe in the 1930s. Now it sweeps the middle East.
But we did not know what fascism was in the 1930s. Today we should know, but the same liberal anti-war whiners seek to have men of good faith ignore what fascism is.
Peace activists who decry the fight with fascists are worse than the fascists themselves in many ways. They become Fascist enablers.
Fascist enablers feel perfectly justofied in using the public media to weaken their host societies, and to give aid and comfort to the very enemies of their civilization.
These fascist enablers need to be ridiculed and disempowered, completely and utterly, just as the same was necessary in 1938 in the cases of Joeseph Kennedy , and Charles Lindhberg, both Nazi Ass lickers.
Thats what these little Nazi Israelis are, fascist enablers. A simple remedy of flogging in the tradition of the British Navy would solve their problem , along with a deportation order.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:25:34 PM PDT
by
Candor7
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
To: Anti-Bubba182
Russians - cant take them anywhere.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:25:38 PM PDT
by
spanalot
To: ari-freedom
Israelis probably thought to allow anyone with even a minimal amount of jewishness because of the Nuremberg laws.But this guy wouldn't even have run afoul of the Nurenberg laws. His grandfather would have been considered 2/3 jewish, and his parent 1/3.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:29:51 PM PDT
by
PAR35
To: 359Henrie
So, Russia sucks sooo bad even the nazis will settle in Israel? Yep. Depending on the source, either none or maybe one of these guys is even distantly Jewish.
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posted on
09/09/2007 7:41:44 PM PDT
by
hlmencken3
(Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
To: SJackson; Alouette
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posted on
09/09/2007 8:07:11 PM PDT
by
elhombrelibre
(RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
To: sionnsar
many are denied the right to marry by the Jewish authorities. Translation: Rabbis don't perform weddings for non-Jews.
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posted on
09/09/2007 8:14:00 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Vicious Babushka)
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posted on
09/09/2007 8:14:23 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Vicious Babushka)
To: Jack Black
American neo-Nazis?! They are just frustrated with the Treaty of Versailles. They are obsessed with the annexation of the Rhineland.
You can see that at all their rallies...Return the Rhineland, Down with France! Prussia forever!
that's all you hear...same thing over and over...
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posted on
09/09/2007 8:18:28 PM PDT
by
picard
(Liberal: ability to supplant reality with multiple truths which are all in opposition to each other)
To: Alouette
Russia will not want to take back this trash.
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posted on
09/09/2007 8:24:16 PM PDT
by
Ciexyz
To: goldstategop
When the Soviets finally decided to release those Jews who wished to emigrate to Israel, there was a rush to get faked Jewish Soviet passports by some of the Soviet Union's most undesirable characters ... many of whom, just like Fidel's Marielitos ... the authorities were very happy to be rid of..
The trade in illegal paperwork was centered around Odessa, then and now, a center of the Soviet Mafia. It is going to take the Israelis a generation, or two to straighten this out.
BTW, the Soviets also took this opportunity to infiltrate many KGB agents into the west with false Jewish papers. Try and remember that Russia, the Soviet Union, and the rest of the former Combloc never played it straight with anything.
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posted on
09/09/2007 8:27:20 PM PDT
by
Kenny Bunk
( Teddy K's 'Immigration Reform Act' of 1965. ˇGrácias, Borracho!)
To: Alouette
Also, Israel will not recognize the marriage certificates of its citizens who were married by civil authorities outside of Israel. So the non-Jewish immigrants are stuck between a rock and a hard place. If an unmarried Israeli couple has children, the children will be officially labelled “mamzers” (bastards) by the religious authorities.
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posted on
09/09/2007 8:47:34 PM PDT
by
trane250
To: Anti-Bubba182
“My grandfather was a half-Jewboy. I will not have children so that this trash will not be born with even a tiny per cent of Jewboy blood.”
Better yet: Kill the one your mother had.
To: Anti-Bubba182
"The ADL said that the phenomenon appeared to be marginal and was more
a reaction to anti-Russian discrimination in Israel."Excuse me, but who's the victim here? The ADL has lost whatever trace of sanity may have remained.
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posted on
09/10/2007 5:58:10 AM PDT
by
SJackson
(isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
To: trane250
If an unmarried Israeli couple has children, the children will be officially labelled mamzers (bastards) by the religious authorities. A "mamzer" by definition is the offspring of a married woman who has had a child with another man. This is religiously impossible to prove, since the offspring of a married woman is halachically assumed to be the child of her husband.
The child of an unmarried woman or a common-law-married couple is NOT considered a "mamzer" under Jewish law.
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posted on
09/10/2007 6:22:23 AM PDT
by
Alouette
(Vicious Babushka)
To: Kenny Bunk; dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
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posted on
09/10/2007 6:39:52 AM PDT
by
Kenny Bunk
( Teddy K's 'Immigration Reform Act' of 1965. ˇGrácias, Borracho!)
To: Kenny Bunk
With the advances in DNA technology and the fact that most Jews, whether Sephardic or Azhkenazic, have a common ancestry deriving from Biblical Israel, genetic tests should be performed to see if those immigrants claiming Jewish ancestry have such a heritage. Given the aggressively secular character of the former USSR and the repression of religion and minority culture, plus intermarriage, many Russians of Jewish origin would naturally be indistinguishable in any respect from non-Jewish Russians.
To: Alouette
many are denied the right to marry by the Jewish authorities.... Translation: Rabbis don't perform weddings for non-Jews. Nor do Ministers, Priests or Iman's for non members of their religion, do they? It's not an exclusively Jewish thing.
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posted on
09/10/2007 6:58:28 AM PDT
by
SJackson
(isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
To: Wallace T.
A DNA test, although helpful, is not definite proof that a person is a Jew. For example, the genetic marker that identifies a “Cohen” (descendant of Aaron) has been found in non-Jews—proving only that at some point a “Cohen” intermarried and had non-Jewish descendants.
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posted on
09/10/2007 7:04:54 AM PDT
by
Alouette
(Vicious Babushka)
To: trane250
Israel will not recognize the marriage certificates of its citizens who were married by civil authorities outside of Israel.
That's not true, civil marriage's are legally binding in Israel, they're simply not recognized by religious authorities, Jewish or otherwise.
So the non-Jewish immigrants are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
More accurately, the non-Jewish, non-Christian, non-Muslim immigrants are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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posted on
09/10/2007 7:16:25 AM PDT
by
SJackson
(isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
To: Jack Black
American neo-Nazis?! I don't get it, at all. Your grandparents fought and died to keep America free. Other than Charles Lindbergh, Henry Ford and Ambassador Joseph Kennedy....
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posted on
09/10/2007 8:00:41 AM PDT
by
archy
(Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
To: SJackson
That's not true, civil marriage's are legally binding in Israel, they're simply not recognized by religious authorities, Jewish or otherwise. The civil authorities ARE the religious (ultra-orthodox) authorities in matters of marriage and divorce. This monopolistic power was ceded to the ultra-orthodox by David Ben Gurion in exchange for their support of the division of Palestine. They had previously opposed the creation of a Jewish state.
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posted on
09/10/2007 11:14:09 AM PDT
by
trane250
To: sionnsar
. Russians feel they are victims of discrimination in Israel and many are denied the right to marry by the Jewish authorities.
Huh????
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posted on
09/10/2007 11:41:22 AM PDT
by
rmlew
(Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
To: 359Henrie
"So, Russia sucks sooo bad even the nazis will settle in Israel?"
I see the irony, but you seem to miss the fact that all of these teens were something like 10 when they came over (brought over by their parents.) It is highly unlikely they were neo-Nazis (or any other political affiliation at the time they came over). What probably happened is being totally alienated as immigrants (the adaptation is oftentimes hard even for ex-Soviet Jews who want to be a part of the Jewish identity) in a country or culture that they really felt no ties to - growing up, they eventually found a subculture (most likely through the internet) which allowed them to express their ultimate alienation.
To: Tabi Katz
"Excuse me, but who's the victim here? The ADL has lost whatever trace of sanity may have remained."
Pretty much all the ex-Soviet immigrants in Israel are viewed collectively as "Russian" (unless they are Orthodox) regardless of their full, half or mixed Jewish parentage. I know the ex-Soviet "repatriant" circles rather well and there is some fear, as well as outrage, that this incident will stigmatize the rest of "Russians".
To: Anti-Bubba182
Scum can be found anywhere, it seems!
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posted on
09/10/2007 5:47:00 PM PDT
by
Androcles
(All your typos are belong to us)
To: Anti-Bubba182
When I heard this in the news, it kind of shocked me but
reading the article, I see they are in their late teens. Misguided and illerate puck punks that have little appreciation for anything or anyone.
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posted on
09/11/2007 9:04:00 PM PDT
by
Gimme
To: sheik yerbouty
Send them back to their former country.. Oh yeah, Nazis are going to be real popular in Russia. /s
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posted on
09/11/2007 9:06:12 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
To: dfwgator
I’m sure the russkies will know how to give them a greeting!
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posted on
09/12/2007 4:40:06 AM PDT
by
sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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