Posted on 09/09/2007 10:40:15 AM PDT by LdSentinal
A curious thing happened this year at the Maryland Republican Party booth at the State Fair: A GOP presidential straw poll was won by Ron Paul, the idiosyncratic congressman from Texas who is a fierce critic of the Iraq war.
Perhaps just as curious was the Maryland GOP's decision to trumpet the results in a news release last week with the headline: "Maryland GOP Presidential Straw Poll Is a Big Success; Grassroots Candidate Wins Surprise Upset."
According to the release, Paul received 263 votes, and former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani (for whom Republican former governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. is toiling) was second with 220 votes. (Ehrlich received three write-in votes.) Former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson-- who had yet to declare his candidacy -- finished third with 188 votes. No other candidate cracked 100 votes.
All told, nearly 1,000 people cast ballots in the Maryland GOP's first-ever presidential straw poll at the fair. The party said the straw poll was open to everyone of voting age, regardless of party affiliation, who stopped by the GOP booth.
The campaigns of nine GOP presidential candidates were invited to have representatives at the booth. It turns out only Paul had someone there all 11 days, the party said.
"The final vote showing Ron Paul won is a lesson for all campaigns of how grass-roots politics can make all the difference," said Chris Cavey, first vice chairman of the Maryland Republican Party and co-chairman of the party's State Fair Planning Committee.
"The Paul campaign repeatedly e-mailed their base of support to turn out at the State Fair to cast a vote for Dr. Paul, and in doing so, demonstrated that a small, organized operation can beat the odds."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
“VOTE FOR RON PAUL YOU STUPID INFIDELS!!”
This is bull***t. It was open to everyone of voting age, regardless of party affiliation, who stopped by the GOP booth(and probably as many times as they wanted to vote.) Just like any good democrap.
I’m just posting on what happened. It’s sorta interesting to me.
No. You should be trying to figure out what difference the big results make. In reality, I mean.
FR Members.
Duncan Hunter 37.0% 448
Mike Huckabee 15.6% 189
Ron Paul 12.0% 145
Rudy Giuliani 10.9% 132
Mitt Romney 9.8% 119
John McCain 8.4% 102
Tom Tancredo 4.9% 59
Sam Brownback 1.5% 18
100.1% 1,212
Non-Member Opinion
Ron Paul 27.6% 359
Duncan Hunter 22.1% 287
Mike Huckabee 16.5% 214
Rudy Giuliani 12.5% 163
Mitt Romney 7.5% 97
John McCain 6.6% 86
Tom Tancredo 5.7% 74
Sam Brownback 1.5% 19
100.0% 1,299
It’s pathetic how the RuPaulettes think that by FReeping a poll they somehow will change the hard and fast statistics of reality.
As a Maryland resident I can’t say I’ve not seen any RuPaul yard signs, bumper stickers or media promoting him. Though that’s anecdotal it reinforces this FReepers opinion the RuPaulettes are deluded and juvenile.
Come on! This is Maryland for pete’s sake. You can’t take those people seriously. No one does.
laughing
LOL do you have a similar graphic for Arnold Schwarzenegger? LOL
REP. PAUL: No! (Cheers, applause.) I’m saying — (laughter) — I’m saying we should take our marching orders from our Constitution. We should not go to war — (cheers, applause) — we should not go to war without a declaration. We should not go to war when it’s an aggressive war. This is an aggressive invasion. We’ve committed the invasion of this war, and it’s illegal under international law. That’s where I take my marching orders, not from any enemy. (Cheers, boos.)
whenever I see these results for Paul, I think Hillary is behind this. You just know she has a major committee whose only job is to secure a 3rd party candidate to siphon off Republican votes. We have seen from the fundraising scandals and other moves that she has essentially just dusted off Bill’s playbook, and they well know the key factor in their victory was Perot.
The vote totals are pathetic. How well advertised/visible was this. You get than many people standing in line at the NY State fair when they don’t even know what the line is for. Rooster crowing contest double that, the Spam trailer double yet again and Dinosaur BBQ - forgetaboutit.
Either Maryland has no REPUBS, the State Fair was a bust or the booth was behind the live bear exhibit.
P.S.: L.Ron, for the umpteenth time, we did NOT go to war without a declaration. Stop the lying bullshit.
With some of Paul's whack ideas, and the support he gets on sites like DU and Daily KOS, I think he'd pull off even more Democrat votes.
The Constitution requires no particular language for a declaration of war.
When the votes are cast in the primaries and they show Mr. Paul as the winner, I will personally e-mail him my congratulations. Ditto for the Nov. ‘08 election.
Careful! you are being stalked. LOL
I wonder if the dims are planning to crossover to the Republican primary and try to vote Paul in?
US Historical Documents
Congressional Declaration of War on Japan
December 8, 1941
JOINT RESOLUTION Declaring that a state of war exists between the Imperial Government of Japan and the Government and the people of the United States and making provisions to prosecute the same.
Whereas the Imperial Government of Japan has committed unprovoked acts of war against the Government and the people of the United States of America:
Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
That the state of war between the United States and the Imperial Government of Japan which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared;
and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Imperial Government of Japan;
and, to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States.
Approved, December 8, 1941, 4:10 p.m. E.S.T.
http://www.law.ou.edu/ushistory/japwar.shtml
Here let me ‘plain it to ya! The clintons’ somehow, (I’m guessing government contract here) convinced perot (the weasel from TX) to run as a 3rd party candidate to fool (gullible) conservatives into voting for him (perot) instead of Bush the elder. It worked twice for clinton (the sleaze) and so now ARE they looking to Paul to play perot’s role so the hildabeast wins by default?
I hope Dr Paul is too principled to take them up on it, but if he decided to leave the Republican party and run as an independent, it would look like something we have seen before, to a lot of us.
Uh . . . whoopdee-do.
If he is getting such a great grass roots response, why isn’t the republican party standing by him? Remember if they can put up austrian socialists for high level elected office,and United Nations internationalists elected federal office, why can’t they support Constitutionalist Dr. Paul? Oops I just answered my own question, LOL!
Interesting question.
My opinion goes like this:
In order to analyze the mind of a crazy person (a dim), it would seem to require a similar mind (crazy).
Even tho my handle is “crazyshrink” and I am actually a shrink, I cannot competently answer your question.
The second document IS a declaration of war.
“Your argument is all wet.”
What argument is that?
The only info I posted was the actual us declaration of war against Japan.
The truth of the matter, IMHO, is that laws/regs/constitution are passive. On their own, they do nothing. It is the interpretation/enforcement/etc. of them by people that causes them to have force.
Because he is a libertarian moonbat nutbag squatting in the Republican party.
Face it Paul is the Republican version of Kucinish, he is a nut.
Love it.
Dr. Paul has no intention of running as a 3rd party or independent candidate.
And so are the Daily RuPaulettes that endorse an "by any means necessary" campaign.
Things like the 2nd Amendment, pro-life, and securing our borders are "whack" to you?
and the support he gets on sites like DU and Daily KOS
You have no proof that these sites are actively supporting Paul's official campaign.
I think he'd pull off even more Democrat votes.
He would actually pull off votes from traditional conservatives & small L libertarians who remembered when the Republican Party used to be conservative and stayed out of people's lives.
Let me explain. Clara’s theory is that if Fred wins a staw poll, it is a really big deal.....but if Paul wins it makes “no difference.”
You're just mad that people aren't kissing the brass rings of the establishment and can finally support a candidate who reflects their views.
You guys sit here and bash Paul & his supporters 24/7 but then deep down wring your hands and pray that he doesn't run as an independent. ROFL the irony is delicious.
You can breathe a big sigh of relief. Paul promised his wife that he wouldn't run as a 3rd party or independent candidate. Then again, maybe he should. Why should he do the GOP any favors?
No, things like his cut-and-run stance, his statements about 9/11 and a possible Tet Offensive, etc. and his isolationist policies are. Just to name a few.
You have no proof that these sites are actively supporting Paul's official campaign.
I've seen it as have many others. Go see for yourself. The spammers are over there, too, believe me. I don't know if they're part of his official campaign, but they're sure demonstrating support for him. I don't have any proof that you're part of his official camapign, either. Same difference.
He would actually pull off votes from traditional conservatives & small L libertarians who remembered when the Republican Party used to be conservative and stayed out of people's lives.
Whatever. A lot of lefties dig the guy.
The flapping on moonbat wings on these threads really does help out in the heat, though.
Sounds as if every Republican in Maryland voted.
Ending nation-building and installing a democracy while simultaneously fighting a half-assed war in a regional hell-hole while our borders remain wide open isn't cut-and-running.
his statements about 9/11 and a possible Tet Offensive, etc.
Have been spun by Giuliani and the GOP establishment.
and his isolationist policies are. Just to name a few.
Not isolationist, pro-America. No involvement in globalist organizations that urinate on our sovereignty.
I've seen it as have many others. Go see for yourself. The spammers are over there, too, believe me.
What spammers? LOL. FR PIONEERED disrupting online polling. Now it's a cardinal sin if Paul supporters engage in it? BTW, the Fox poll was only ONE vote PER cell phone. Unless Paul supporters had a dozen cell phones apiece, it was impossible to spam the poll. So Faux News lied out of their ass and debunked their own poll.
Whatever. A lot of lefties dig the guy.
Traditional lefties do. The middle-class folks concerned about their jobs and sovereignty, and the influence of trans-national corporations. I doubt that the liberal moonbats support Paul, although some of them are trying to exploit his campaign.
Nope, just the unethical "by any means necessary" methods the RuPaulettes use. Like calling talk shows and telling the screener they want to talk about something else and then spew their RuPaul propaganda. That's what moobats do and just one example of the BS they pull. I'm sure you're proud of them?
Have you forgotten that I lived in Brazoria County Tx when Paul ran for his first elected office? We still own property there.
Have you forgotten that I told you I met him on several occasions when he campaigned? I met a very nice OB/GYN named Dr. Paul. Well thought of as a doctor but when he voiced his political ideas to us he was a nut. I watched him closely on the debate, he is STILL a nut. He blames US for the Muslim attacks, only a blind idiot would think that.
He is not presidential material, he needs to retire to a lake some where and fish. There are several good bass lakes not far from Lake Jackson, I’ll advise him if he needs help selecting one.
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