Posted on 09/05/2007 9:08:26 AM PDT by forty_years
Dear Ms. Whoopi Goldberg, don't tell me that torturing animals (dog-fighting) -- "hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground" -- is an integral part of Southerners' "cultural upbringing." I've lived in the Deep South for about 5 years, visited family there many times, and vacationed there more times than I can remember. My experiences? Good, decent people, and beautiful cities, countryside, and beaches. So how did this dog-fighting controversy get started?
Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick was busted red-handed running a chamber of horrors for canines. Not only was he fighting dogs, but torturing them too, presumably for his own "pleasure." From the Smoking Gun, including the federal indictment against Vick:
...After a March 2003 loss by a female pit bull, codefendant Purnell Peace, "after consulting with Vick," electrocuted the animal. In April, prosecutors allege, Vick, Peace, and Quanis Phillips, "executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in 'testing' sessions." These animals, the indictment claims, were killed "by various methods, including hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground."
From ESPN:
..."He's a pit bull fighter," the source said of Vick. "He's one of the ones that they call 'the big boys': that's who bets a large dollar. And they have the money to bet large money. As I'm talking about large money -- $30,000 to $40,000 -- even higher. He's one of the heavyweights."On April 25, authorities raided a house in Surry County, Va., owned by Vick and reportedly found -- among other things -- 66 dogs (most of which were pit bulls), a dog-fighting pit, bloodstained carpets and equipment commonly associated with dogfighting. ...
Here's Whoopi on Vick's crimes, from ABC's talk show The View:
"He's from the South, from the Deep South ... This is part of his cultural upbringing."
At least:
..."View" co-host Joy Behar took immediate issue with Goldberg."What part of the country is this? ... How about dog torturing and dog murdering?" she asked. ...
According to Whoopi, poor baby Vick can't help being a "heavyweight" of dog-fighting, regularly killing "under-performing" dogs by "hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground." It is part of his "cultural heritage." Would Whoopi excuse slavery in the Old South on the basis of "cultural heritage?" You know she wouldn't.
Whoopi is in fact perpetuating the now-widespread culture of victimization, whereby certain special identity groups try to get out of trouble, whereby the fabric of our American culture is being devastated. She is part of the problem whereby hillbilly/redneck stereotypes (e.g., the Simpsons' Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel) are warmly received in Hollywood, inner-city gangsta thugs are self-destructively hocked by BET, but we've yet to see a major movie about Islamist terrorism.
Should we think anything more of Whoopi? Speaking of the President in 2004, she:
...produced a few embarrassed grimaces with an unsubtle anatomical double-entendre enjoining voters to "keep Bush where it belongs and not in the White House."
No, we cannot expect more from a person whose intelligence is limited to bathroom "humor" while arguing politics.
And not one ping to me!
Only for us “hicks.”
Yet another semi-literate to fill the Rosie O’Donuts seat on the View, what else did you expect?
The NAACP should be on her case over this. She’s insinuating that if you’re black, it’s perfectly natural that you’d abuse animals. Her idiotic statements paint the entire race with that brush.
“It’s the culture..”
Words by which we are to excuse every outrage that occurs along the downward spiral of black American society.
I read that Whoopie was a bag lady when she was 'discovered'.
If this is true - is she still practicing HER cultural upbringing?
She makes it sound like Vick has this disgusting habit bred into his genes.
I can believe it’s part of his culture. I can even believe that Vick didn’t think it was really bad. I can believe that Vick thought it was like gambling in an office pool, illegal, but who cares?
Even if all that is true, it in no way excuses Vick. Even if he thought it was ok, he was severly mistaken. And ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Let him do his time. And if he is so inclined, let him put this behind him.
Maybe Whoopi can get Oprah on her show and explain to her how common it is to have your uncle rape you repeatedly when you are about 9 years old and its just what is done down south. Ya think?
Well that explains it Oprah, nothing out of the ordinary to actually complain about. Then watch the cat fight.
I live in the north (Pittsburgh, PA) — dog fighting is common around here. It’s not a regional thing or a cultural thing — it’s a greed thing; it’s an animal cruelty thing.
It’s similar to John Kerry going after the southern stock car fans, “I sure would like your vote, all you National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing enthusiasts.”
This is all about Whoopi racism as far as I’m concerned...
A few years ago I saw Whoopi on the street. It looked like she was window shopping. I did not approach or speak with her.
According to some, it was the "culture" in the halls of power that led to several lawmakers being indicted for allegedly accepting bribes. It was also the long standing "culture" in the Tennessee Highway Patrol that explained the practice of getting moved up the ladder by giving money to certain lawmakers.Actually, one can use "culture" to defend just about any type of behavior. News reports of "honor killings" in certain countries, where family members slaughter one or all their daughters, is explained at part of the "culture" in those parts of the world. So is the practice of chopping off heads of the infidels by terrorists ... it's part of their "culture."
In fact, "culture" is being used more and more to explain just about every type of human failing or misbehavior.
It will be interesting to see how much more "culture" our culture will put up with in 2006.
05/07/2001
Politically Incorrect
May 2 Transcript where Whoopi says, “I’m not sure that Communism is necessarily a bad thing.”
Whoopi: I’ll tell you, in part, what it was like, because I lived in East Germany.
Bill: You lived in East Germany?
Whoopi: Yes, I did. Yes, I did. And so when I say to you the things that I say, it comes from a different place. Do I think that Communism as it’s worked by men works, no. Do I think that democracy often works in certain societies? No.
We’re seeing Russia implode ‘cause it’s not working.
We haven’t given it enough time.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3af7239c5af9.htm
Along with grabbing your crotch and making obscene gestures and calling it “comedy”.....it’s all a cultural thing./sarc
Not much but I thought it was the Meredith Viera chair.
Whoopi is just bush league.
Wait a minute! She’s right, it IS part of the ‘cultural upbringing’ of some people( not just the Deep South)!
It is part of the IGNORANT, LOW CLASS, THUGGISH-and yes,statistically mostly black, culture.
Dog fighting is part of being a black thug, it’s street-cred, it’s ‘real’.
She is perfectly illustrating how ‘normal’ too many blacks consider such cruelty. She’s admitting how numb, culturally,a huge number of blacks like Vick, are to cruelty and killing.
Poor or rich, it’s ingrained in the culture- and it’s understood, EXPECTED, and excused!
Now doesn’t the high crime rate among blacks make perfect sense?
Co-host Joy Behar had it just about right when she called what Vick did “dog murder”. The dogs were executed, not because they were convicted of some crime, or because they were politically incorrect, but only because they lost the match. There was no mercy shown at all. The dogs died in excruciating pain, was that supposed to be for the good of their souls? Did the torture cause them to reveal any secrets they held dear?
Things like this would not be done to an Islamic terrorist (who roundly DESERVES similar treatment).
But apparently Whoopi thinks it is OK to do things like that to a dog, because it is accepted in the “culture”.
This is self created, engineered hype by the View - they play the free press/advertising game better than anyone in the business.
They replaced one shocking, attention demanding lightning rod with another.
It works - everyone’s talking about it, and it makes the news.
I would tell ms goldberg that we have relatives in the deep south and none of them nor their family have ever participated in such a horrific “hobby” as this. To make that statement is an insult to all good people who live in the deep south. How dare she make such a blanket statement??? Another idiot on the view. Congratulations Barbara Walters...NOT! When will this show go off the air anyway?
And PETA is jumping all over this one right? No? No outrage for the psychotic left PETA?
Seriously, I ask, when has Whoopi ever been funny? Can someone please point me to somewhere where I can view something of her’s that makes somebody laugh? From what I’ve seen, I just don’t get it.
Defend that while you are at it, Whoopi.
Like lynchings?
Good article.Alway’s thought of Whoppi as a flake.Now i’m sure of it.Sounds like she’s filling Rosies shoes quite nicely.
“He’s from the South, from the Deep South ... This is part of his cultural upbringing.”
This dawg won’t hunt. As a Southerner, I’d like to help get the word out that we wear shoes and have paved roads now. Most homes actually have indoor bathrooms, electricity, and running water. And no, Florida is not a Southern state, just a geographical anomoly.
“Like lynchings?”
Which ones?
MAJOR BARF ALERT!!!! (You’ve been warned)
All you need to know about this allegedly female cretin is that she gained her name “Whoopi” because it is well documented that she can’t control the frequency or volume of her intestinal gaseous discharges. For you gummint skul graduates, she farts all the time. (I think I’m going to be ill!)
And for years, the problem has risen to the area of her mouth.
The southerners I was born and bred from would have hung someone for ‘dog fighting’ violence done by the likes of Vick.
Her stupid statement discounts the fact the the South was and is very religeous.
When has she ever displayed even a crumb of talent?
And she's ugly.
Whoopi who?
The networks are torturing the public by putting on these idiots.
You know how much us knuckle dragg’in, tobaccie spitt’in, lighten drink’in, illiterate inbred Southerners like our dawg kill’in sports! It’s our Gawd given right!
“But apparently Whoopi thinks it is OK to do things like that to a dog, because it is accepted in the “culture”.”
She’s disgusting. What she said is disgusting! At least she’s not like some of the other libs who say it’s “murder” to execute a dog but perfectly OK to kill unborn babies.
Whoopie isn’t noted for reasoned, rational, logical thought. She was hired because she’s a woman,( I think), liberal, colored, and can be controversial.
I think the one to blame for the reappearance of this knuckle dragging idiot is Barabara Walters....and it could be said she is utilizing Whoopi’s race and “culture” for entertainment and ratings purposes
But, but it’s their CULTURE, don’t you see?
Like keeping women in burkas, mutilating babies, killing missionaries, and sending Americans poisoned food.
It’s their CULTURE and wee have to send them a huge gub’mint grant for cultural preservation.
Whoopi Goldberg is a complete moron.
For her edification...Michael Vick did not grow up in some trailer park on a dirt road in the Mississippi Delta or the Ozark Mountains. He grew up in Newport News, Virginia, which is part of a metropolitan area of nearly TWO MILLION PEOPLE (including Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Newport News, Hampton, Suffolk, and Chesapeake). It’s urban, heavily developed, and home to one of the biggest shipyards in the country. Newport News is in the South, Whoopster, but it ain’t the “deep South.” It’s probably a damnsight closer to the hellhole projects of your beloved New Yawk, or the worst neighborhoods of Atlanta, than it is to Alabama.
The problem isn’t the “deep South,” Whoopi, you dog-faced has-been. The problem is a deep-seated thug culture that people like YOU have helped to popularize among urban black youth. Michael Vick wanted to “keep it real,” and look where it got him.
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Is Brooklyn in the deep south? How about Phildelphia (where now coach, then NFL player was caught for the same thing)? Detroit?
This is happening all over the country (NORTH and South) in urban and rural areas. Whoopi is an idiot, as most have known for quite a while. I think the producers intend the View to be a comedy and to show just how dumb the left is.
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