How A Dark-Horse Can Win The Nomination (strategery for 2nd tier, RP)

TheWandererPress.com (Catholic newspaper), via Buchanan.org & TomRoeser.com ^ | 8/29/07 | Tom Roeser

[Badeye]

‘If you want to reverse the results of 2006 and capitalize on the excitement of the Paul campaign...’

(chuckle)

You guys are amusing, I’ll give you that.

[LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget]

Follow the link in my tag line. Ron Paul can not win. He can’t win in the debates. He can’t win in the primary, and he can’t win in the general.

RP is a joke, and not even a funny one.

[mnehring]

So, the story is bunk because the campaign worker quit and decided to support a Paul challenger.. it isn’t the reverse, Eric quit and decided to support a Paul challenger because the story was true and Paul disgusted him?

[piytar]

Great link. Some money quotes:

"I had to literally beg him to support the vote authorizing the President to send Troops to Afghanistan. (Emphasis added.) I actually threatened to resign if he did not vote that way. And another key District Staffer, practically threatened to resign, as well. At the last minute Ron voted in favor of the Authorization. I suspected he only did it, cause he knew if he hadn't he would cause the Republicans in the District to oppose him, and he wouldn't win reelection."

"But I do remember one time, when a group of Houston Jewish Young Republicans wanted to lobby the Congressman on some issues. I begged Ron to meet with them. He was very hesitant. He finally agreed. But the meeting turned out to be a disaster. The Jewish YRs came all the way from Houston, and all Ron did was berate them in our District Office about how the Israel Lobby was too powerful in Washington, and other issues. He also got defensive when the Jewish YRs expressed concern over Palestinian violence against Israel."

Yup, that's a guy I want in charge of our foreign policy. Didn't want the US to take on the gov't of AFGHANISTAN (that's the Taliban, NOT Iraq -- you know, the people behind 9-11), thinks it's all the "Israel Lobby"s fault, and gets defensive if someone dares think the terrorist scum in Palestine might be a legitimate concern for Israelis.

Uh huh, Go Ron Paul. GO AWAY, that is!!!

[t_skoz]

Interesting tagline, a quote from liberal Joey Ramone. He was a good singer, and I am a huge Ramones fan, but Johnny was the real thinker in that bunch.

Bonzo Goes To Bitburg?

The KKK Took My Baby Away?

RIP Johnny Ramone
1948-2004

[mnehring]

If you need anything for your file, let me know. I’ve gathered a lot of information on Paul’s votes that show him to be a moderate libertarian at best.. the funniest part is watching his supporters squirm to find excuses for those votes, even though, if those votes were cast by any other candidate, they would scream RINO.

[mnehring]

It’s from my favorite from them, Bonzo Goes To Bitburg. The quote really does fit Paul and his excuses doesn’t it?

[t_skoz]

That’s right Badeye. I forgot that Romney, Thomspson, Guiliani and the rest of them are so exciting that 40 thousand people are taking to the streets, creating their own campaign events, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars of their own money on these exciting, inspiring campaigns! That’s why Republicans swept Legislatures across the country in 2006!

Oh wait, never mind.

[t_skoz]

Do you even know what Bonzo Goes To Bitburg was about?

[George W. Bush]

4) So, at the end of the day, do I still believe Ron Paul is "an anti-Semite" as I said in my initial post? I think that was an overly harsh assessment, and I apologize for it. Nonetheless, I have emailed his campaign spokesman to ask if he stands by the main quotation in question here: "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government." That was early in the afternoon, and I have not received an answer (I also asked yesterday on the phone). It remains a troubling statement for all of the reasons I have laid out if he stands by it.

Yet you leave out the writer's far more tempered assessment of the antisemite issue in which he apologizes for his accusations of antisemitism. Yet, he does not abandon his criticism of Ron Paul otherwise. It seems to me that he's being responsible and has examined the issue pretty thoroughly.

I think it does change the issue somewhat to focus on the Israeli government's lobbying activities as opposed to the actions of AIPAC who claim to represent Israel's interest. AIPAC is questionable to me on Pali policy because I don't think AIPAC and the Israeli government are in agreement over Pali policy and that some Israelis, like Netanyahu and his Likud allies, are trying to counter AIPAC's surrender-monkey influence at Foggy Bottom and in Congress by reaching out to evangelicals for support for Israel's sovereignty. That's just my take though, I don't claim to be an expert on the differences between the two. But I don't believe they are one and the same politically and in their lobbying focus.

[SJackson flagged due to some previous interest in the issue]

[piytar]

Thanks, mnehrling, but I don’t really have a “file” on Ron Paul. I just dug that stuff up with a Yahoo search. Ron Paul is easy to shred with even a little digging. Frankly, I think he does have some good ideas, but his foreign policy is so flawed that he is simply not acceptable (to me) or truly viable as a candidate.

Actually, the only topic I have a “file” on is global warming — copied directly from a lengthy post by a freeper.

[mnehring]

Absolutely, but it still was interesting, especially after that song Marky came out and with some interesting discussion on how he was wrong about Reagan.

[George W. Bush]

Dondero (Rittberg) is a known nutter, once in good graces with both the Libertarians and the Texas GOP. Now, no one will work for him and he spends his time trying to destroy the GOP and Libertarians and mostly just attacking people to prove he's relevant.

Dondero is radioactive. He's also quite a liar. We've had previous threads exposing this fraud.

[mnehring]

I always find it funny that people are in good graces with someone until they write an expose, then suddenly, they are trashed as a nutter.. sounds like how the Clinton camp treated it’s former staffers who came clean.

[Kenny Bunk]

You guys must be too young to remember Alf Landon.

Elsewhere on our site, I espy "Dark Horse" activity. It concerns running a top general as a surprise candidate. Any thoughts?

Ron Paul? Even Duncan Hunter, whom I really could support, by the way; they strike me as too bland. They are ideologically sound, I suppose, but where's the pepper?

This race is about national security, absolutely No.1. That's what we should be punching on, right now through Nov '08. Force the Democrats to fight on our ground, not go chasing them around on "social" and woman's issues.

[George W. Bush]

Follow the link in my tag line. Ron Paul can not win. He can’t win in the debates. He can’t win in the primary, and he can’t win in the general.

Of course. And the Paul-haters at FR (like you) troll these threads endlessly, spewing thousands of known falsehoods against Dr. Paul to FUD him or misrepresent him because he is such a non-threat?

You can't have it both ways. Either he's no threat or he is a threat. The obsessions of the Paul-haters notwithstanding, it's not rational to obsess over a candidate that truly has no chance whatsoever. The continued trolling of these threads is pretty evident that you do not believe what you are posting: Ron Paul is a threat or you wouldn't troll him so desperately and with such flimsy and repudiated "evidence".

[George W. Bush]

sounds like how the Clinton camp treated it’s former staffers who came clean.

Huh? When did the Xlintonoids ever come clean?

Oh, well, I suppose you have to manufacture some talking point or justification for posting nutjob attacks on Ron Paul.

There are plenty of reasons why various Republicans oppose Ron Paul politically. We recognize and expect that. But resorting to Dondero after his history of dishonesty and viciousness and grandstanding...well, it smacks of desperation.

[Artemis Webb]

This is your brain on drugs.

[Turbopilot]

Good article, and maybe something that Ron Paul's official people could learn from. My observation is that his campaign is long on good ideas and grassroots support, but maybe short on old-fashioned politicking.

Of course, he still can't possibly win the primaries, given the well-known fact that he's a space Nazi.

[Artemis Webb]

"Ron Paul? Even Duncan Hunter, whom I really could support, by the way; they strike me as too bland. They are ideologically sound, I suppose, but where's the pepper?

Every time I take one of those little test that are suppose to help you find out what candidate is the best fit for you I come up with Duncan Hunter. I like Duncan Hunter. I like him a lot. But he not only has no real organization but like you say he does lack pepper. Hell...he lacks salt!

I'm supporting Fred but if Duncan ends up as VP or in a security spot on the cabinet it would be a wonderful thing.