Global Warming to Fuel More Severe Tornadoes and Thunderstorms

Live Science.com ^ | August 30, 2007 | Andrea Thompson - Live Science

[RoadKingSE]

Global warming will make severe thunderstorms and tornadoes a more common feature of U.S. weather, NASA scientists said today.

Climate models have previously shown that Earth will see more heavy rainstorms as the atmosphere warms, but a new climate model developed by NASA researchers is the first to show the difference in strength between storms that occur over land and those over the ocean and how storms strengths will change in general.

The models don't directly simulate thunderstorms and lightning, but look for conditions that are ripe for severe storms to form.

The model was tested against current climate conditions and produced well known major global storm features, including the high levels of lightning seen over Africa and the Amazon basin and the near absence of lightning in ocean storms.

[RoadKingSE]

Would someone please help me understand what it is we've received in exchange for all the billions of taxpayer dollars we've sunk into NASA to keep the Trekkies and Tech Heads entertained for the last 20 years.

[Izzy Dunne]

Global Warming to Fuel More Severe Tornadoes and Thunderstorms

Well, the Hurricane angle didn't pan out, so...

[mewzilla]

Andrea Thompson

=8-0

Nah, can't be....

[NRA1995]

Hasn’t NASA already been proven to be full of brown smelly stuff on this subject?

[Always Right]

You know that float thousands of these catastrophic predictions out there in the hopes that one will stick. Every possible change in any weather event has been predicted so that no matter what happens they can be shown to be ‘right’. So what if they miss on the other 99%, they only need to get one ‘right’ and the media will headline it.

[edcoil]

Drudge also headline that less then half of scientist believe in GW. The vast majority understand GW is a religion and a modern day scam on everyone.

[RightWhale]

what it is we've received in exchange for all the billions of taxpayer dollars we've sunk into NASA

Ignoring the self-answering part of the request, the purpose of NASA is to keep the USA pre-eminent in space. The USA is pre-eminent in space. QED

[Holicheese]

I stopped at a light yesterday and about 3 squeegie guys came out to clean my windshield. I swear they all worked at the Weather Channel’s Hurricane Center.
“No storm, no paycheck!”

[JennysCool]

I’ve said it before in jest, but now I think there might be a grain of truth in it: NASA’s James Hansen is looking for a cushy retirement on the board of one of Al Gore’s “Carbon Credit” companies.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Of the 2500 UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change “scientists” who presented their recent “consensus”, fewer than 50 had any scientific qualifications.

[RightWhale]

• NASA scientists said today.

  The report was published 17 Aug. That is hardly 'today.' They teach that 'today' thing in journalism school.

[RoadKingSE]

Why in the h,e, double l, do we need to have weather reports from NASA? What the heck is NASA doing that the NOAA, the National Weather Service, and every friggin local news station with a Doppler Radar station, can’t do?

[sinanju]

If NASA says it, it must be right, comrade.

[sinanju]

If NASA says it, it must be right, comrade.

[theDentist]

Sorry, this does not fit into MY theory of Global Weather Balance. My theory holds that weather on the Earth will fluctuate betweening warmer and cooler temps for any number of years, and that over long times (hundreds of years) the temperature will vary only slightly.

[Rb ver. 2.0]

All this money to conclude that it gets hot in the summer.

[navysealdad]

Seems NASA has too many personnel drinking alcohol wearing a wig and adult diapers and carrying a roll of duct tape.....

[Rb ver. 2.0]

And next we’ll hear it’s going to be cold this winter.

[edcoil]

I am unaware of any real scientist that would have any association with the UN.

[wbill]

There was an article in my paper just yesterday that stated 2006 edged out 1998 as the hottest year on record. GW is a great example of the big lie. If you repeat it often enough, everyone will believe.

I discussed the "revised" NASA data with a die hard democrat the other day. She wouldn't believe that NASA updated their data. Furthermore, she stated that "IF" NASA updated their data, it was because Bush told them to.

George Bush, evil overlord. BDS is real.

[Always Right]

Climate models have previously shown that Earth will see more heavy rainstorms as the atmosphere warms, but a new climate model developed by NASA researchers is the first to show the difference in strength between storms that occur over land

Climate Models.....random number generators would be more accurate.

[RoadKingSE]

Ignoring the self-answering part of the request, the purpose of NASA is to keep the USA pre-eminent in space. The USA is pre-eminent in space. QED

Hey NASA! Thanks for the Tang. Oh and those astronaut diapers, COOL.

I think I'd rather have my tax dollars fund pre-eminence in development of IED-proof combat vehicles, or a suicidal islamist extermination spray. I can watch Channel 13 for the weather report. Cape Canaveral would make a nice golf resort.

[aruanan]

Global Warming to Fuel More Severe Tornadoes and Thunderstorms

No, it won't. The temperature rise has been in the higher rather than lower latitudes and in nighttime rather than daytime temperatures. The severity of a thunderstorm depends to a large degree on the temperature difference between cold and warm air masses. If the more northerly colder, drier air masses are progressively less cold, then the difference between them and the more southerly warmer, humid air masses is less pronounced, meaning a reduced chance for violent thnuderstorms and tornados.

[RightWhale]

NASA did not develop Tang. Since you apparently favor military applications, you would be aware that 2/3 of NASA is support for military applications.

[Eagles Talon IV]

LOL, right, in fact the Hurricane predictions have proved to be abysmally wrong in the past 2 years.

[Red Badger]

The models don't directly simulate thunderstorms and lightning, but look for conditions that are ripe for severe storms to form.

So, we made it all up.........algore can thank us later.......

[GreenAccord]

The title should be:

Threat of Global Warming to fuel more coverage of tornadoes and thunderstorms.

[Tarpon]

Since we now know everything causes globull warming, today, China says one child limit, male only, to help globull warming — Hey I have a thought ...

[Sgt_Schultze]

I'm still waiting for the approximate date of Climatic Nirvana (TM) against which today's climate is compared. After all, if we are destroying the environment, surely there are definable characteristics of the optimal climate and when it occurred.

[samtheman]

a new climate model developed by NASA researchers

Climate model. The latest video game for "researchers".

[rfp1234]

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Well, that consider that tornadoes and thunderstorms are the result of ^weather^, not ^climate^.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Sorry...

“...that AND consider...

[VeniVidiVici]

And they still can’t predict tornadoes.

[DungeonMaster]

Global warming to fuel more weather of all kinds. More heat, more cold, more wind, more calm, more rain, more drought. All weather proves global warming, all hail global warming.

[Hacklehead]

Yes, Yes, we’re all going to die. I got the message.

I wish NASA would focus on things like keeping the space shuttles from disintegrating rather than wasting their time on this trash.

[KarlInOhio]

I'm scratching my head about this. The global warming prediction has the greatest temperature increase in nighttime arctic temperatures, while the least change is in tropic daytime temperatures. If the arctic temperatures are closer to the tropic temperatures, it seems like the weather would be LESS severe because the most thunderstorms are caused by large differences between cold and warm areas.

[woofer]

right, in fact the Hurricane predictions have proved to be abysmally wrong in the past 2 years.

Please allow me to refer you back to another poster on this thread:

Throw up a thousand predictions and one is bound to stick.

OTOH, I predict we'll be hearing from the GW disciples every spring how the coming hurricane season is gonna be "da worstest evah!".

[RoadKingSE]

NASA did not develop Tang. Since you apparently favor military applications, you would be aware that 2/3 of NASA is support for military applications.

Okay I'll concede that Tang was probably paid for with a Robert Byrd "earmark" to Kraft Foods. And I'm onboard with the support of mil apps.

However the Space Station is fast becoming Space Edsel. And I didn't leave anything on Mars the last time I was there. But it's Hansen and his Gorebal Warming idiots at NASA that really chap my @$$.

[RoadKingSE]

NASA did not develop Tang. Since you apparently favor military applications, you would be aware that 2/3 of NASA is support for military applications.

Okay I'll concede that Tang was probably paid for with a Robert Byrd "earmark" to Kraft Foods. And I'm onboard with the support of mil apps.

However the Space Station is fast becoming Space Edsel. And I didn't leave anything on Mars the last time I was there. But it's Hansen and his Gorebal Warming idiots at NASA that really chap my @$$.

[RoadKingSE]

Sorry for the double post. My mouse stuttered.

[RightWhale]

Hansen actually has overstepped his position. He ought to take his retirement and move to a Liberal university. What he has been doing is far from space program stuff anyway.

[spunkets]

"Global warming will make severe thunderstorms and tornadoes a more common feature of U.S. weather, NASA scientists said today."

Some may have said this, but they are just alarmists. Tornados, and the thunderstorms that they result from, derive their energy from the average energy of the atmosphere. The average energy of the atmosphere is proportional to the absolute temperature, so any change will be according to the ratio of the 2 temperatures involved.

So for a 1^o change,

T_final/T_initial = 292/291 = 0.0034 = 0.34%

So, 0.34%/^oC is all the extra energy available to do what they claim. That's not a significant increase at all, and it's flat out fraud to claim that it is.

[Eagles Talon IV]

Thanks, I did see that and i agree. It has long been the method of alarmists that the get every opportunity to cry gloom and doom and yet never get called back to be confronted when they are wrong. But when they are right, that 1 time out of 100 they become media darlings for as long as the lamestream libs can drag it out.

[RoadKingSE]

So, 0.34%/oC is all the extra energy available to do what they claim. That's not a significant increase at all, and it's flat out fraud to claim that it is.

You're telling me. (:^D)

[ChildOfThe60s]

I’m starting to think the people that wanted to abolish NASA and put the money into social programs may have had a better idea
/sarc

[NaughtiusMaximus]

Future Headline: Scientists Say Fewer Hurricanes, T-Storms, Tornados Confirm Global Warming. (Omigod, We’re all gonna die.)

[MaxMax]

Normal weather has now become a fear factor of (100).
This is growing old. Hysteria never lasted long in America.