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Surfers Stop Superferry in Hawaii
AP via SFGate ^ | 8/27/7 | DAVID BRISCOE, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/27/2007 7:51:24 AM PDT by SmithL

Honolulu (AP) -- The Coast Guard helped clear protesters who briefly disrupted the second voyage of Hawaii's first-ever passenger ferry service among the Hawaiian islands, but the fight over the ship's environmental impact is far from over.

The Hawaii Superferry made two packed trips Sunday — two days ahead of schedule — after the state Supreme Court ruled last week that the state should have required an environmental report before the ferry launched. State transportation officials, noting that the court didn't explicitly say the ship couldn't run, still allowed the service to start.

A dozen protesters on surfboards blocked the ship for more than an hour from docking at Kauai's Lihue harbor Sunday, but the Coast Guard cleared them away. Hundreds more protesters onshore beat drums and chanted in support of the surfers.

The protesters and environmentalists argue that the ferry's plan to ply 400 miles of Hawaii waters each day endangers whales, threatens to spread invasive species and will worsen traffic and pollution.

They planned to ask a judge on Monday for an injunction to halt the ferry service until the environmental study is conducted.

Hawaii Superferry Inc., in a statement late Sunday, said it was disappointed in the delay on Kauai.

"We are sorry to see that minority dissident groups have chosen to oppose a service that the people of Hawaii have overwhelmingly embraced," the statement said, noting it had sold 22,000 tickets.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: coastalenvironment; environment; nukethewhales; superferry

1 posted on 08/27/2007 7:51:24 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
The protesters and environmentalists argue that the ferry's plan to ply 400 miles of Hawaii waters each day endangers whales, threatens to spread invasive species and will worsen traffic and pollution.

What a bunch of luddites.....

2 posted on 08/27/2007 7:53:38 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: SmithL

Yeah, cuz ya know sailin’ ... like ... ships ‘n’ stuff on the ocean is ... ya know ... bad, dude.


3 posted on 08/27/2007 7:53:53 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: SmithL

Note the passenger plane above the ferry. The alternative is more flights. Isn’t that even less ecologically sound?


4 posted on 08/27/2007 7:54:36 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: SmithL
These folks aren’t environmentalists. They are just garden variety Luddites. Protecting the Ocean from a ferry.. is beyond.. out into the insane territory. The real problem is that the State Court didn’t see where this inevitably goes. Red tape for all passenger lines approaching the Islands. Why should this ferry be any different.
5 posted on 08/27/2007 8:00:18 AM PDT by dalight
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To: SmithL

Surfers, just the people you would turn to to provide meaningful insight into anything not dealing with waves, curls, boards, chicks and bongs.

“Dude, totally mongo waves down at the beach, drop what you’re doing right now and get your board! Just tell your boss you’re not feeling well and need to go home, he’ll sooo fall for it!”


6 posted on 08/27/2007 8:00:27 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism now.)
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To: SmithL

Hey, we build these things here in Mobile, Alabama. The guys down here need the work. If this one works out, they're ordering another.

7 posted on 08/27/2007 8:01:44 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Jack Black
I saw that anomaly too. Could it be that these protesters are not quite so stupid as they appear? Could it be that they are not so much concerned about the ferry but what the ferry brings?


8 posted on 08/27/2007 8:02:57 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: SmithL

the selfish locals don’t want day trippers to come to their
island, with a car, and spend nothing.


9 posted on 08/27/2007 8:08:58 AM PDT by djxu456
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To: nathanbedford
An active enviro is a person who already owns property in the mountains.

....Bob

10 posted on 08/27/2007 8:14:40 AM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: djxu456
the selfish locals don’t want day trippers to come to their island, with a car, and spend nothing.

The only people who can make a day trip to Hawaii by ferry are other Hawaiians.

11 posted on 08/27/2007 8:15:18 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: Jack Black

For real....How perfectly ironic!.....Why aren’t they at the airport blocking those awful CO2 spewing jets engines from landing?......................


12 posted on 08/27/2007 8:17:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I assume we are discussing some outlying island.
.......................................
anyone with a car,
Hawaiians, or visitors who have already
rented a car.
would be in a position to visit for a day, and drive around
spend nothing


13 posted on 08/27/2007 8:29:12 AM PDT by djxu456
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To: nathanbedford

Most on Kauai are worried about thieves coming from other islands, burglarizing homes and vehicles, hopping back on the ferry the next day, and disappearing into the huge population of Oahu. The superferry is a fad right now. The ticket price is higher than the cost of a roundtrip flight and car rental for the day, and takes three hours each way.


14 posted on 08/27/2007 8:44:51 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: SmithL
"...Hawaii's first-ever passenger ferry service among the Hawaiian islands..."

Eh? The only way to get to Lanai is by ferry-- no airport. I've done it myself from Maui.
15 posted on 08/27/2007 8:54:14 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Thompson 2008!])
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Well I have been a Surfer for 42 years.

I fully support the super ferry.

I use the time spent waiting in the line up engaging others in political discussions, Busting the Global warming myth etc.

16 posted on 08/27/2007 9:00:03 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: SmithL

IMHO more old wine in new bottles. To wit, the Leftist (like the Puritans) fear that somewhere, somehow, someone in someway might be enjoying life.


17 posted on 08/27/2007 9:04:42 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: SmithL
Surfers Stop Superferry in Hawaii

"Idiots on surfboards stop superferry in Hawaii" is more accurate.

18 posted on 08/27/2007 9:17:21 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: Jack Black
The alternative is more flights. Isn’t that even less ecologically sound?

Dude, the goal, like, is to stop people from traveling at all.

19 posted on 08/27/2007 9:23:10 AM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: blam
Hey, we build these things here in Mobile, Alabama. The guys down here need the work. If this one works out, they're ordering another.

That can't be. We don't manufacture anything in the U.S. anymore. Really, I read that here.

20 posted on 08/27/2007 9:24:31 AM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: BfloGuy
"That can't be. We don't manufacture anything in the U.S. anymore. Really, I read that here.

Ahem, it is an Australian company.

21 posted on 08/27/2007 9:44:17 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Savage Rider
There is much to be mined from what you say.

First, why has it now become a pattern in America to use laws for purposes to which they were never originally intended? For example, we now regularly distort the federal income tax statutes to accomplish social engineering. This has gotten to the point that it costs us billions of dollars a year because the regulations have become so labyrinthine that we require highly paid specialists to lead us through the thickets. We use environmental laws regularly to stop unsightly windmills off our Nantucket shores. I am not aware that the environmental laws were designed to protect Ted Kennedy's view. We use wetlands laws to stop development because we don't want the congestion. We use environmental laws routinely to stop nuclear power plants, not for environmental reasons, but because we are afraid.

Now we say we are worried worried about the whales when in fact we are worried about burglars.

I think this distortion comes out of the fact that we cannot always in our politically correct world employ laws for their express purposes. For example, it seems to me that if you're worried about burglars you should look to the criminal law rather than environmental laws. But we've gotten to the point in this country where one has to be very careful about asking for the enforcement of criminal laws lest one be accused of being racist. In any case, the average citizen too often cannot rely for his protection on the government vigorously enforcing the criminal laws, there are simply too many counter interest groups involved. So we cast about for some politically correct law, we say we want to save the whales.

This is the way Third World countries work-that is the laws are not enforced, or they are selectively enforced, or they are arbitrarily enforced- but in those places the motivation is different. In the Third World these circumstances occur because of money corruption. In America we seem to be in the throes of a corruption of the soul.


22 posted on 08/27/2007 9:49:56 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: Savage Rider
The ticket price is higher than the cost of a roundtrip flight and car rental for the day, and takes three hours each way.

By the time, you go through the usual airport hassles, return one rental car, and get another, it's probably still quicker than flying (and far more pleasant).

23 posted on 08/27/2007 9:58:58 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: SmithL

All I need is some cool waves and tasty bud. Hey Stu where did you get that jacket.

24 posted on 08/27/2007 10:00:19 AM PDT by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: SmithL

But these whackos never say a word about the floating sewers, I mean cruiseships, that dump untold gallons of sewage around the islands. There was never a impact study done for them, must have paid off the right ‘rats in state government.


25 posted on 08/27/2007 10:25:10 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: blam

On Lake Michigan there’s the Great Lakes Express, a catamaran ferry running from Milwaukee, WI to Muskegon, MI about 80 mi. It’s 180 feet long and takes 2.5 hours each way. A tourist fare round trip is about $90.00. I took it a couple of years ago when I attended the NRA convention in Milwaukee. Did you folks make it and do you know if the Hawaii ferry is a similar ship?


26 posted on 08/27/2007 1:06:30 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Enforce the law! They should just run their asses down, they would get out of the way.


27 posted on 09/02/2007 7:58:12 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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