Posted on 08/24/2007 12:55:48 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
It’s sad they would feel so threatened by someone else’s faith.
Interesting, they use a picture of a pagan deity (Liberty) as something good, being altered by a cross (symbol of Christianity), which they disapprove of (or of which they disapprove, for those who insist on not ending sentences with a preposition).
I’ve sometimes wondered where the most joyless place on earth is. Looks like you’ve found it.
The above was for the picture with the Statue of Liberty, and not all of the pictures.
Heh. Those scary Christians will probably pray for them.
Heh. Free Thinker Student Society. It never ceases to amaze me how “Free Thinkers” think anyone that the only people thinking freely are the ones that think like them.
Good catch. Giant religious statues are scary. Wonder if the society will ever meet in Rio?
What a rogues gallery. Pray for them. They hate that.
One of the speakers — Peter Singer is the Ira W. DeCamp Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University, and laureate professor at the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics, University of Melbourne.
His main claim to fame is being an advocate of sparing society at large of more pain and suffering and the COST of attending to these by euthanizing babies when we know that they are deformed/retarded/deathly ill/handicapped.
He also advocates allowing older people to die quickly when they are sick and not spend too much money trying to cure or resucitate them when the chances are slim in order to save society from too much cost.
Hence, he states that abortion, painless infanticide and euthanasia can be justified in certain special circumstances, for instance in the case of severely disabled infants whose life would cause suffering both to themselves and to their parents when they grow up.
Singer classifies euthanasia as voluntary, involuntary, or non-voluntary. Given his consequentialist approach, the difference between active and passive euthanasia is not morally significant, for the required act/omission doctrine is untenable; killing and letting die are on a moral par when their consequences are the same.
This is the professor that teaches our most brillant kids who study at Ivy league schools like Princeton nowadays.
Lookie here — I see Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Professor and one time successful defender of OJ Simpson.
Christians should understand the general sentiment (although definitely not equal in degree) with Islam. You wouldn't want to be subject to their religious laws or forced to recognize or validate the existence of their god, would you?
You are confusing faith with government. Look up the history of the Anabaptists. They suffered under government rule because they didn’t belong to the government church. It wasn’tabout faith. It was about control
The big problem is that the atheists have become the oppressors.
Susan Jacoby.....Rush is right, feminism is a way for ugly women to gain access to the mainstream of society.
"Global vote picks Seven Wonders".
On the BBC Have Your Say, at least one commentator basically stated that if a religious monument (a reference to the Brazilian statue) was voted one of the new wonders in 'this modern age' that would be a sign that society was not so advanced.
Just another religion claiming their faith is better than your faith because they call it reason. If you think the world is bad now, wait until you get a load of the misery they are going to bring.
However, would not consider the abolition of abortion for non-life-threatening reasons, and even an acceptance of Creationism as a model for the origins of life and the universe along with Macroevolution and cosmic evolution to be particularly "religious laws."
For the latter, you still have your view in the mainstream, only now there is some competition.
Also known as "Why we abandon all reason when it comes to issues of faith and morality."
They split up such belief into atheism and religion, and seek for people to be 'freed' from religion.
On the other hand, Christians can split up such belief into Christianity (or the Way [things are]) and religion (including atheism), and seek for people to be 'freed' from religion.
Atheists have been largely able to twist laws to force--or at least pressure--such freedom. Christians try to persuade people to become free and show them the way, and the rest is up to God and the individual.
Heathens unite! Unbeknownst to most, Christians actually want to deface national monuments with big scary crosses. Their secret agenda also includes harrasment of government fearing liberals with the gospel.
Yes, Satan is alive and well...
We’re known for that.
Really? I don't feel all that powerful. Last time I checked the only non-Christian at a high level in our government was Muslim.
Am I supposed to be offended by Lady Liberty holding the cross?
“Secular Society and its ENEMIES” - a title intended to inflame. When are those who simply disagree ‘enemies’?
Teaching creationism is fine by me, after all it’s knowledge and that’s what teaching is for. Just teach it in the appropriate subject category: theology.
Back to Greek. The prefix "a" means without. To call it a religion is to ignore the actual word.
No kidding. My first reaction to those pictures was: "What a pathetic looking bunch of losers".
Maybe we should get the kids to pray about that in school.
Oh yeah....against the law
Have Schumer, Feinstein, Boxer, Leiberman, Feingold, and Specter concerted?
Sorry, non Judeo-Christian.
No it isn't, and you should sue into oblivion any teacher or administrator who attempts to stifle a student's nondisruptive personal prayer (or groups of students praying together). Even the ACLU has successfully represented students whose rights to express their Christian beliefs were infringed on.
It's school-led, enforced or organized prayer that is a problem. If you don't have a problem with that, just wait until your kid ends up in a public school administrated by Muslims who don't know they're not supposed to push their faith in school.
By in large most teachers and schools are decidedly anti-Christian, I'm not talking about the whole evolution thing here I'm talking about the average teacher who subscribes fully to the Lennon (John and Vladimir) philosophy of 'Imagine theres no religion'.
If you went to a school where you felt oppressed by Christians it was a rare school. 20 years ago I was pulled out of class for doing my Bible study during independent reading time. A guest teacher used Tarot cards as a teaching tool, and I was told time and time again of the evils of Christianity..
Not at all. I'm saying that if a kid wants to pray in a way that is not disruptive by reasonable standards (don't suddenly stand up in the middle of class and pretend you're Jerry Falwell) then any teacher or administrator who tries to interfere with it is violating that kid's rights. Such people who violate the rights of others need to be punished, and a school or district that allows such an environment needs to be punished. We must make them terrified to even think about trying it again.
As I said, such actions are so egregious that even the ACLU has stepped in, successfully, to protect the religious freedom of students.
20 years ago I was pulled out of class for doing my Bible study during independent reading time
The Bible is literature, right? That falls under what I said earlier, sue them into oblivion.
Which probably explains your comments. As I've said before, you posts typically sound just like an ACLU member, this of course another example.
This is what I said oyu have to be kidding about, there is *no* Christian Public School and for the most part our public schools are hostile towards all things Christ..
That was in response to Christians being persecuted, but how can there be serious persecution when Christians run our country? The only thing we have a problem with is idiot intolerant bureaucrats who think they can stifle freedom of religion.
Well, there is another problem. You do have the Michael Newdows and the other face of the ACLU bringing nuisance suits over any expression of Christianity in schools (interestingly, leaving the Muslims alone) that make Christian administrators and teachers afraid of allowing that expression. They've even tried to stop Bible-as-literature classes and school vouchers that may go to religious schools, which I just can't comprehend. To me, "no law" means no law favoring or disfavoring (restricting, persecuting, etc.) -- the government should be neutral. These clearly fall under the latter.
Our governments, run mainly by Christians, should have the courage to stop this abuse of the 1st Amendment.
Your post makes no sense, makes no point. I stated fact, that such abuses are bad enough that even the normally anti-Christian ACLU has filed suit and won where the religious expression of Christian students was stifled. My point is correct, that student prayer is not against the law.
Do you have an actual counterpoint to that, or do you prefer to go off on irrelevant libel?
My post was perfectly clear, I’ve said before you sound just like an ACLU member, and this is another perfect example.
If you're saying I sound like those members who forced the school to allow that girl's freedom of religious expression, I'll take that as a compliment.
Not surprised you take it as a compliment, but being outed as an ACLU puppet was hardly meant as one LOL.
Hey, is that Al Franken in drag in the lower left picture?
Good. I take seriously my defense of rights across the board, even for groups of which I am not a member (Christians in this case) or don't even like (the FSF). This country was founded on equal rights, so it's the only position a true American should take.
Too bad you don't support rights for groups you don't like.
What do you think “The Next Islamic Enlightenment” is?
We know, even seen you admit to making up lies defending the "rights" of Russian hackers LOL.
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