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I Drove by This Today
My Own Lying Eyes. ^ | 8/23/07 | Vanity

Posted on 08/23/2007 9:01:37 PM PDT by TxCopper

Edited on 08/23/2007 11:19:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

http://www.ci.garland.tx.us/Home/Departments/Community+Services/Day+Labor+Center/



What in the ****?

Day Labor Center


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: atwhatevercost; daylaborers; dhs; homedepot; illegal; lowes
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1 posted on 08/23/2007 9:01:39 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: TxCopper

Yikes. I’m surprised you had time to write it all down.


2 posted on 08/23/2007 9:03:00 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: TxCopper

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3 posted on 08/23/2007 9:04:28 PM PDT by ken21
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To: Texas Eagle

Seriously...I got a little sick driving by this city government “sanctioned” place. Ice...INS...Help???


4 posted on 08/23/2007 9:04:40 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: TxCopper

Moose? Cheese? It’s all the same.


5 posted on 08/23/2007 9:05:39 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: TxCopper
http://www.ci.garland.tx.us/Home/Departments/Community+Services/Day+Labor+Center/
6 posted on 08/23/2007 9:05:46 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: TxCopper

Your LInk:

http://www.ci.garland.tx.us/Home/Departments/Community+Services/Day+Labor+Center/


7 posted on 08/23/2007 9:05:50 PM PDT by Sundog (It's a good day for a catharsis.)
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To: ken21
Huh? What do you mean?

This is the first time that I have seen a major (200,000+) city sanction a "day labor" Rest Area.
8 posted on 08/23/2007 9:06:10 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: Sundog

A City of Garland (TX) site? On my dime? What was wrong with my link?


9 posted on 08/23/2007 9:07:27 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: TxCopper

I knew there was a place in TX called Sugar Land, but did not know there is also a Cigar Land, TX.


10 posted on 08/23/2007 9:08:17 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Texas_Jarhead

What was wrong with the freaking link I gave you. It was a government site and domain. I guess you like that sort of thing...


11 posted on 08/23/2007 9:08:38 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: ikka
I don’t get what you mean. I guess like I also don’t know why one of the 25 largest cities in Texas has a city-sanctioned “Day-Labor” Centre.
12 posted on 08/23/2007 9:10:26 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: TxCopper

Lovely. Other areas of the country have had to deal with this same crap for a long time. California, for one.

Sad to see that the State of Texas is implicated in this.


13 posted on 08/23/2007 9:10:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: TxCopper

Nothing was wrong with the freakin link except it wan’t a link. Some people aren’t too good with cut n paste so I thought I’d help and make it easy. Guess that ain’t your kinda thing.


14 posted on 08/23/2007 9:11:02 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: TxCopper

All the INS has to do is round up the illegals there (probably 99% of them) and drive a couple of hundred yards south to the Mexican bus station and put them on the next bus south.LOL


15 posted on 08/23/2007 9:11:05 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: TxCopper
What was wrong with the freaking link I gave you. It was a government site and domain. I guess you like that sort of thing...

Chill dude. He was tryin' to help u

16 posted on 08/23/2007 9:12:31 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: 1066AD
I guess, my point was, is that this isn’t happening. In fact, the City of Garland (TX) has built and established a new “Day Labor Centre.”
17 posted on 08/23/2007 9:12:55 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: TxCopper

yeah,

i know what you mean.

i first saw that in 1985 when i graduated from college and went to costa mesa, ca for job.

no one would believe it then. 20-30 cars per residential street, democrap judges that sided against americans who wanted city codes enforced, kids held up at knife point at the bus stops, ....


18 posted on 08/23/2007 9:13:46 PM PDT by ken21
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Whoa...It looked ok on my PC. I apologize to all involved. Seriously.
19 posted on 08/23/2007 9:14:23 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: Sundog

Why does that (bad) link still LINK to the freaking City government? Do you need a Windows Upgrade?


20 posted on 08/23/2007 9:15:31 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: TxCopper

How Day Laborer Hiring Sites Promote Illegal Immigration

The proliferation of day laborer hiring sites has paralleled the explosion of the illegal alien problem in the United States. What was once largely a problem confined to large city sweatshops and seasonal crop agriculture has expanded enormously as illegal aliens have spread across the country into the meat processing industry, construction, assembly-line work, services such as landscaping, and all sorts of casual day labor jobs. Studies show 84 percent of day laborers are illegal immigrants.

The hiring sites that have mushroomed around the country generally have been created to deal with the problems caused by groups of immigrant workers (largely illegal aliens) who congregate on street corners waiting for persons seeking laborers to drive by. In some areas, these informal hiring sites have caused traffic disturbances, and the lack of sanitary facilities has often led to public urination. Nearby established businesses have often complained to the police that the gatherings drive away their clients. Other common complaints include public drunkenness and harassment of pedestrians.

In response, some private groups (often including Latino service groups and church-based groups) have worked to get local governments to establish formal hiring sites to get these workers off the streets. Part of this approach is to establish an orderly process for the workers to match up with employers and to establish a record of the employer so that if there is a complaint of non-payment, there is a basis for investigation.

DAY LABOR CENTERS IGNORE RULES AGAINST ILLEGAL WORKERS

The reason that day labor hiring sites should not be tolerated by local governments is that they ignore the issue of the work status of the worker, thus facilitating illegal immigration. The center managers argue that it is the responsibility of the employers, not them, to verify the work eligibility of the employee hired. While this may be technically correct, if there is local government support for a hiring site, it is reasonable for a prospective employer to assume that the worker who is made available through the site is legally entitled to work. Thus, the hiring centers may not only facilitate the employment of unauthorized workers, they may also encourage the employer of the day laborer to break the law against hiring illegal aliens.

HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS AT A DAY LABOR CENTER IS A CRIME

Since the adoption in 1986 of the Immigration Reduction and Control Act (IRCA), it has been illegal for an employer to hire an illegal alien. The IRCA gave rise to a system of document checking by empoyers (the I-9 form) to control against violations.

In 1986, the Immigration Reform and Control Act amended the Immigration and Nationality Act to prohibit the hiring or continued employment of an unauthorized alien.2 Violation of this law involves the felony of concealing, harboring, and shielding illegal aliens from detection and is demonstrated when employees lack work authorization documents, are paid in cash, Social Security or federal taxes are not withheld, and the employer fails to pay employer contributions.3

DAY LABOR CENTERS DRIVE DOWN WORK CONDITIONS FOR LEGAL WORKERS

All state governments and most, if not all, county governments and large city governments operate labor departments funded by federal and state unemployment trust accounts. Their responsibility is to try to match out-of-work residents (often receiving unemployment benefits) with employers seeking workers. These labor departments assist job placement of legally employable workers. The day labor hiring centers that are currently erupting in areas of large concentrations of illegal aliens circumvent and undermine the taxpayer-funded operation of the government employment offices. Among the screening standards provided by an official placement office is assuring that the employment complies with legal requirements, such as the minimum wage and overtime payments. The employer sanctions provisions of the immigration law specifically provide that workers hired through a state employment agency are to be considered legal workers.

Employers hiring workers from day labor centers often will avoid legal standards, pay less than the minimum wage, fail to withhold salary for taxes, and avoid paying into the unemployment fund and other expenses. Those employers illegally cut the costs of employment and, in the process, decrease the job opportunities for qualified workers who may be unemployed, but who are unwilling to work for cash payments under the table. As a result of this process, the wages that a qualified worker may earn become depressed towards the wages that the illegal workers are willing to accept. The effect of the day labor centers is, therefore, to benefit the illegal alien workers and the employers who are breaking the law in hiring them, while at the same time undercutting the earning potential and opportunities for some of the country’s most needy workers. It also increases the burden on taxpayers because of the cost of general assistance provided to the out-of-work residents.

DAY LABOR CENTERS DEPRESS WORKING STANDARDS

Many of the employers of day laborers are contractors who are working on construction sites. They use day laborers because it offers greater flexibility as the workload fluctuates depending on weather and the economy. Such construction contract work is highly competitive, and unless the contractor is working on a government contract, the cost of wages may determine who wins the contract. In this kind of environment, the contractor who cuts labor costs by suppressing wages has an advantage, something that using illegal workers helps to achieve.

A contractor who is scrupulous about respecting the law and hiring only legal workers may thus be at a comparative disadvantage in competing for a contract. Over time, greater pressure will develop for all competitors to use illegal workers, and the wages that are offered to day laborers may become depressed so far that legal workers are unwilling to take these jobs.

Greg Feere, the head of the Contra Costa (Calif.) Building and Construction Trade Council explains, “What it [the day laborer hiring site] basically does is put a legitimate contractor at a disadvantage. You get non-union contractors who don’t work by the rules, don’t offer worker’s compensation and pay with cash.”5

DAY LABOR CENTERS ATTRACT ADDITIONAL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

A day labor hiring center that makes no distinction between legal and illegal workers sends a message to illegal workers that our society does not care whether a worker is legally in the country or is in violation of our immigration law. It also invites other illegal aliens to come and take advantage of the inviting environment.

For example, in New Jersey where several day labor hiring centers have been established, the number of workers seeking to find jobs through these centers has continuously increased so that pressure has been created to establish still additional informal hiring sites. By accommodating this, local governments are creating conditions whereby the population of illegal workers will simply expand and generate further pressures until such time that the demand for such workers is entirely fulfilled, at which time the community is likely to find that it has a large number of unemployed illegal aliens as well as legal residents.

WHAT CAN WE DO?

The most important point to remember is that local action has succeeded in confronting and deterring the proliferation of day labor hiring sites. The Get Involved/What You Can Do section of FAIR’s website describes several options for Confronting Illegal Day Labor Issues in Your Community.

The actions will vary depending on the circumstances, but they include:

Encouraging local residents and merchants to complain to law enforcement and local government bodies about loitering, public urination, litter, or sexual harassment problems.

Pressing local governments to enact an ordinance to prohibit all solicitations of moving vehicles.

Filing lawsuits based on public nuisance laws.

Creating a photographic record of curbside hiring - both of laborers and employers, which can document the hiring activity and those involved in it. (The funders and managers of day labor hiring sites are legally accountable if it can be shown to have actual knowledge that hiring hall users or beneficiaries include illegal aliens or other unauthorized workers.)

Identifying and documenting the amounts and sources of financial support used to pay for the hiring hall. If Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) funds are used to pay for services to illegal aliens, statutes restricting the use of federal funds may have been violated.

Organizing protest activities.

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters192e


21 posted on 08/23/2007 9:16:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: EternalVigilance
I don’t know what that *ping* was, but don’t do that again. Ping me with personal feedback, not the *.txt file burning a hole in your C:\ drive.
22 posted on 08/23/2007 9:18:33 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: TxCopper

What are your thoughts on how to address this? Are you planning on acting?

(bookmarking for tomorrow — good night all)


23 posted on 08/23/2007 9:19:34 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: EternalVigilance

And again, obviously, this is a city project, with city funds, and city land, that makes all their tax-evading dreams come true.


24 posted on 08/23/2007 9:19:48 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: TxCopper

Wow dude. I was trying to give you factual information about the issue you posted about.


25 posted on 08/23/2007 9:20:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Welllllllll. I don’t think the city should pay for this. Not THAT complicated.
26 posted on 08/23/2007 9:20:37 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: TxCopper

They’re all over the place.


27 posted on 08/23/2007 9:21:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: TxCopper

Ummm... No Offense man, I just took your text and posted it as a link. That way it is a snitch easier to go there and look at it and yup, it is exactly what you said.

I even browsed the web site looking for more incriminating stuff like the web page on Coyotes and their likelihood of eating your children and couldn’t find anything that looked more incriminating than the drivel life long public servants do when their prime consideration is their retirement.


28 posted on 08/23/2007 9:22:01 PM PDT by Sundog (It's a good day for a catharsis.)
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To: TxCopper

Wow...why are you dumping on FReepers like this? You seem like you are too jittery to be posting tonight. Go get some sleep. Sheesh.


29 posted on 08/23/2007 9:22:16 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: TxCopper
And again, obviously, this is a city project, with city funds, and city land, that makes all their tax-evading dreams come true.

I went to the link you kind of provided, and it said this:

"This project is in partnership with the Texas Workforce Commission and the WorkSource for Dallas County."

So, I stand by my comment.

30 posted on 08/23/2007 9:22:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: TxCopper
> What in the ****?

At least as bizarre... put “illegal” as the search term at the top of that web page and you will find links to references on the citys web site to illegal signs, illegal dumpsite, illegal sale and use of drugs, using the City’s network for illegal purposes, illegal or unpermitted development, contraband items, the possession of which is illegal or prohibited, it is currently illegal to consume alcohol in the City’s parks, illegal street parking, illegal signs, illegal sales of vehicles, illegal garage sales, more illegal signs, but not one thing about illegal aliens. Guess that must not be a problem. /sarc off

31 posted on 08/23/2007 9:25:11 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: Sundog
I guess you really have no freaking idea what you are talking about. I dare you. Take a flight to Dallas Love Field. And then take I-35 to 635E to Northwest Highway. Then, take Garland Ave. north to Miller Road, (in Garland.) Then...right between Saturn Rd. And Garland Ave, you will see about 500 illegals at the CITY SANCTIONED “Day Labor Centre.”
32 posted on 08/23/2007 9:26:16 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: EternalVigilance
Wow dude. I was trying to give you factual information about the issue you posted about.

Looks like someone needs to get a grip EV and it ain't you! Blackbird.

33 posted on 08/23/2007 9:26:40 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: TxCopper

You need to chill out...........

Why are you attacking people ON YOUR SIDE?????????


34 posted on 08/23/2007 9:27:46 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: EternalVigilance

What comment? You posted some one else’s work.


35 posted on 08/23/2007 9:28:00 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: TxCopper

Are you drunk?


36 posted on 08/23/2007 9:29:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: TxCopper; All

You know, the way you are jumping all over everyone in this thread, you’re going to be conversing with no one before too long.

‘Night FRiends.


37 posted on 08/23/2007 9:29:39 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: EternalVigilance

Apparently.


38 posted on 08/23/2007 9:30:02 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: EternalVigilance

Either that or in withdrawl.


39 posted on 08/23/2007 9:31:21 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
‘Night FRiends.

Sounds like a winner to me!!!!!

40 posted on 08/23/2007 9:31:47 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

Me too.


41 posted on 08/23/2007 9:33:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: TxCopper

No problem. FReegards


42 posted on 08/23/2007 9:33:52 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Gabz; EternalVigilance

Lol! I’m out for real this time :)


43 posted on 08/23/2007 9:34:37 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: Gabz

http://www.servicelocator.org/search/detail-info.asp?Category=CENTERS_INFO&ParentID=31218668&state=TX


44 posted on 08/23/2007 9:36:11 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: TxCopper
Welllllllll. I don’t think the city should pay for this. Not THAT complicated.

But you have no problem with it's existence? A place right out in the open harboring hundreds of illegal criminal insurgent invaders? I think this kind of place should be used as a sting operation and bust them all for breaking our laws.

45 posted on 08/23/2007 9:38:50 PM PDT by Syncro
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The City built the day labor center for workers to gather in one central location. The center’s purpose is to provide an organized and supervised alternative to street corners for hiring temporary labor and to create an equitable system for the selection of workers. Both contractors and individuals can come to the center to obtain workers. This project is in partnership with the Texas Workforce Commission and the WorkSource for Dallas County.

This is so typical of the Dallas metroplex. Note that one of the stated goals is to get the "temporary labor" off the street corners (and Home Depot parking lots), carefully preventing the taxpayers from seeing the ugliness of the current situation. Then there's the "organized and supervised" environment, which no doubt ensures that contractors pay as agreed.

It's getting tougher for the Metroplex to sweep this stuff under the rug, but they're still trying.

46 posted on 08/23/2007 9:40:24 PM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: TxCopper

Plano has one too. It’s Hwy 5 at Parker, near the DART train.


47 posted on 08/23/2007 9:42:09 PM PDT by Peanut Gallery
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To: TxCopper

ci.garland

...from the link. It’s funny.


48 posted on 08/23/2007 9:44:49 PM PDT by Peanut Gallery
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To: crazyshrink

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/030507dnmetdaylabor.3af3876.html


49 posted on 08/23/2007 9:46:06 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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50 posted on 08/23/2007 9:49:31 PM PDT by oldleft
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