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The mad dash for housing help
http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/23/real_estate/subprime_help/index.htm?postversion=2007082311 ^ | 8-23-07 | Jeff Cox

Posted on 08/23/2007 8:54:39 AM PDT by Hydroshock

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To: Mariner

About 2 years ago a neighbor of mine got those tersm for his house, he served in the 1st Gulf War.


21 posted on 08/23/2007 9:30:03 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

You never hear from the MSM that the subprime loan defaulters comprise less than one half of 1% of all mortgagees.

Agenda, anyone?


22 posted on 08/23/2007 9:44:40 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Mariner
30yr fixed at 5.75%...no points or closing costs. How do I get one of THOSE loans?

Get a time machine and go back a couple of years. Or wait long enough and it will come 'round again.

23 posted on 08/23/2007 9:47:47 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Hydroshock
An announcement in April that the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America would be offering $1 billion in rescue money to beleaguered borrowers

So now our money goes through a third party called the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America and is no longer 'taxpayer money' but RESCUE money!

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I can't speak for other FReepers, but I'm sick and tired of government taking a chunk of what our family earns every year and then hiding the theft behind feel-good catchphrases.

Why should we have to rescue people from their own bad decisions?

24 posted on 08/23/2007 9:48:51 AM PDT by MamaTexan (~ Government can make no law contrary to the Law that created government ~)
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To: JimRed
You never hear from the MSM that the subprime loan defaulters comprise less than one half of 1% of all mortgagees.

The percentage doesn't exactly matter - it's the damage their existence is doing to the financial institutions that created all of thosee bizare CDO's backed by subprime mortgages. Even a small but larger-than-expected default rate could end up taking down some huge firms, as it becomes evident that they were peddling products based on false assumptions.

When everybody is borrowing prosperity from everybody else, one broken link in the chain can set off a catastrophe.

25 posted on 08/23/2007 9:49:28 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Moonman62
What makes you say that? Do you know the details of the program, or do you imagine it's a certain way so you can act indignant?

I didn't ask about this particular program, I asked about your views, motivated by your earlier comment. You're evading the question, which is of course your right to do. But please don't put words in my mouth. Thanks.

What bailout with low interest rates? The yield curve was inverted for over a year. That means rates have been too high. They should come down to be in line with market rates.

Only very slightly inverted, i.e. nearly flat. By the way, the yield curve is not almighty and it's not hard science. It is merely an indication as to how the market feels things will shape up. The market is used to the Fed cutting rates, the market saw the housing bubble about to go pop, the market (unreasonably IMO) expected inflation to remain very low, ergo the market had expectations that the Fed would cut rates, hence the (slightly) inverted yield curve.

Put yet another way, in the "finance theatre" comprised of pseudo-markets presided over by central banks, the audience (investors) watch the actions of the actors (Fed) and make judgments based on past history and perhaps unrealistic expectations. There's your "yield curve".

On the other hand, the real cost of using money is about 3 percent plus inflation; this I am told has been a constant for thousands of years. Inflation has been running about 2%, so rates at about 5% seem sane to me. A rate cut "to get the economy moving again" would be really dumb (ie inflationary), IMO. Note that the Euro central bank as well as the Japanese are contemplating interest rate INCREASES, even in the teeth of the credit crunch. My guess (hope?) is the Fed will also do the sensible thing and let the financial markets sort themselves out without rewarding the stupid greed of the financial industry with an interest rate "bailout".

By the way, the PRODUCTIVE class (i.e. manufacturing corporations) by and large have healthy balance sheets, great cash flow, and lots of cash on hand.

26 posted on 08/23/2007 9:49:45 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Hydroshock
Join the military, get a VA loan.

Been there, done that. The rates aren't any better, but if you can afford the payments you can get in for no money down. Even without a seller concession a few thousand in closing costs can get you a house.

27 posted on 08/23/2007 9:51:44 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Hydroshock

And then get moved in less than 2 years and struggle to sell your home... Not everyone in a panic to sell is selling because they got too expensive a home or because they chose the wrong kind of mortgage. Some of us just miscalculated our ability to sell our houses at all.


28 posted on 08/23/2007 9:54:03 AM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: Nervous Tick
I didn't ask about this particular program, I asked about your views, motivated by your earlier comment.

My comment was based on the comment I was responding to, or do you have trouble with the obvious?

29 posted on 08/23/2007 9:54:13 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: L98Fiero

“I’m of the opinion that most folks who took those loans had the intention of flipping their house for profit in short order and were not concerned with interest and such.”

Exactly.

“Easy Money” will get you every time.


30 posted on 08/23/2007 9:55:31 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Moonman62

Sorry, I misunderestimated you. From your posts on other threads, I thought you had the ability to articulate a position, discuss an issue, as well as some knowledge of financial topics. My bad, guess I was wrong. I’ll leave you alone now.


31 posted on 08/23/2007 9:58:44 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Hydroshock
Real estate is not going to collapse, precisely because it is the most politically well-connected form of investment. The field already enjoys massive tax advantages, bailouts, plus subsidies that even farmers would envy. Now that the Democrats are coming in, this crisis will spawn more special breaks. By 2010, we may all be required to invest in real estate.
32 posted on 08/23/2007 10:03:58 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Nervous Tick
they can get back to work defining and selling illiquid financial “derivatives”

This paper has no value to anyone except the liquidators at $.10 on the dollar.

The Fed is holding its breath that this does not happen en masse because it is in the hundreds of trillions and we will be back in caves.


BUMP

33 posted on 08/23/2007 10:06:49 AM PDT by capitalist229 (ANDS)
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To: Mariner
I am VA eligible, but the rate is not 5.75%.

In 1978 I would have drooled over 5.75% fixed. Then it was 11-13% FIXED!

34 posted on 08/23/2007 10:09:06 AM PDT by jslade (The beatings well cease when morale improves!)
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To: L98Fiero
"In other words, people who can’t handle their own money are begging for other people’s money. Pathetic."

Corporate Tax Loopholes, Savings & Loan Bail-Outs, Pharmacuetical Legislative Protection Racket, Auto Industry Bail-Outs..., just what are you complaining about?

And you're so right, it is pathetic, and no way reflects the basic principals on which this country was founded, namely fairness, equity, and government accountability, which is who your complaint should be addressed to.

35 posted on 08/23/2007 10:12:40 AM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Your results may vary. Void where prohibited.)
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To: Hydroshock

The HOPE hotline (888-995-HOPE) does not offer bailouts, but does offer objective third party counseling. Over half of all borrowers who fall behind on their mortgages never even call their lender to try to work something out. The HOPE counselors have dedicated contact people at all the major loan servicing shops and can get people to face up to their problems sooner and work them out with the servicer. It is a really good program.


36 posted on 08/23/2007 10:17:17 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Thanks anyway, Nancy, but we already have a Commander-in-Chief!)
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To: Hydroshock
Wait until the first half of next year when so many ARM’s reset.

Actually, somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 billion is resetting this month. And Next, and ...

37 posted on 08/23/2007 11:04:53 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Freedom4US

There are some, few, credit services organzations that can help after the loan and before the adjustments.

The borrower needs to start as early as possible and do the right things - and not be so far gone that the timeframe isn’t reasonable.

But for some, increasing their scores is possible and can have a sizable impact on being able to afford keeping their home.


38 posted on 08/23/2007 3:44:22 PM PDT by D-fendr
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