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Student who wrote violent story loses appeal
dailyreportonline.com ^ | 08/02/07 | Alyson M. Palmer

Posted on 08/22/2007 8:56:45 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

11th Circuit rules school was in its power to suspend teen in light of other incidents of school violence across nation.

CITING SCHOOL SCHOOTINGS from Columbine to Virginia Tech, a federal appeals court has ruled against a local student suspended in 2003 after a teacher saw a story the student had written in which the narrator dreams of shooting her math teacher.

Rachel Boim, who was a ninth-grader at Roswell High School when the incident occurred, sued the Fulton County School District and school officials, asking the courts to force school officials to remove the suspension from her disciplinary record. Her parents also sued, asking for legal fees and expenses they had incurred in responding to the disciplinary proceedings.

The family’s lawyers argued that the discipline was a violation of Boim’s First Amendment rights, emphasizing that Boim had told school officials the story was a work of fiction.

In Tuesday’s decision written by Judge Joel F. Dubina, a panel of the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rejected that argument. “There is no question that Rachel’s writing constitutes expression,” wrote Dubina. But given the context of reported incidents of school violence across the country—and the authority the law allows schools to exert over students—the panel ruled that the school’s response was within its power.

“[I]n this climate of increasing school violence and government oversight, and in light of schools’ undisputedly compelling interest in acting quickly to prevent violence on school property, especially during regular school hours, we must conclude that the defendants did not violate Rachel’s First Amendment rights,” wrote Dubina.

“We can only imagine what would have happened if the school officials, after learning of Rachel’s writing, did nothing about it and the next day Rachel did in fact come to school with a gun and shoot and kill her math teacher.”

Boim’s story reaches its climax in the narrator’s sixth-period class. “Yes, my math teacher,” wrote Boim. “I lothe [sic] him with every bone in my body.”

“I stand up and pull the gun from my pocket,” the story continues. “BANG the force blows him back and everyone in the class sits there in shock.”

On Oct. 7, 2003, Boim gave the notebook to another student during art class. The other student was writing on another page in the notebook when the teacher confiscated it. According to a brief by the school defendants, Boim initially refused the teacher’s request for the notebook, saying the teacher would first have to say “please.”

Boim was a writer on the school newspaper with an unblemished conduct record, according to one of her lawyers. But officials noted Boim had math class during sixth period, and the school’s principal suspended the student for 10 days. A hearing officer in the school’s disciplinary system ruled that Boim should be expelled, but the county Board of Education ultimately decided not to expel her.

One year ago Wednesday, U.S. Senior District Judge Marvin H. Shoob granted the school defendants summary judgment in the Boims’ lawsuits. The 11th Circuit ruling affirmed that order.

Oral arguments in the Boims’ appeal took place just 11 days after the April 16 massacre at Virginia Tech by a student gunman who had unnerved classmates and teachers with violent writings and strange behavior. While Dubina relegated reference to that incident to a footnote, he relied on reports of several incidents of school shootings over the past decade or so.

“Literary merit and technique not withstanding, without doubt, Rachel’s first-person narrative could reasonably be construed as a threat of physical violence against her sixth-period math teacher. … Rachel created an appreciable risk of disrupting [Roswell High School] in a way that, regrettably, is not a matter of mere speculation or paranoia,” wrote Dubina.

Dubina also noted that the 2001 federal No Child Left Behind Act allows students who attend schools designated as persistently dangerous to transfer to another school, showing how cognizant school teachers and administers have to be about safety. He wrote that a June U.S. Supreme Court decision ruling against an Alaska student who displayed a banner reading “Bong Hits 4 Jesus” across the street from his high school reaffirmed that courts will give school officials administrative leeway.

While Senior Judge Stephen N. Limbaugh, visiting from the Eastern District of Missouri, joined the decision, Judge Susan H. Black wrote a separate concurrence indicating she agreed with the result but not all that was said in Dubina’s opinion.

Citing a seminal 1969 U.S. Supreme Court decision, Tinker v. Des Moines Community School District, 393 U.S. 503, 89 S.Ct. 733, that upheld the rights of secondary school students to wear black armbands to school in protest of the Vietnam War, Black wrote that she “would have limited the inquiry in this case to whether Rachel Boim’s story and the circumstances surrounding it would cause school officials to reasonably anticipate a substantial disruption of or material interference ‘with the work of the school or impinge upon the rights of other students.’”

Eric A. Brewton of Brock, Clay, Calhoun & Rogers in Marietta made the winning argument for the school defendants. He said the decision shows the 11th Circuit judges are concerned about school safety.

“They have taken the position—which we obviously believe is right—that school officials can take reasonable action when they believe that there [are] threats to the safety of school officials or students,” said Brewton.

The Boims’ attorneys, Don C. Keenan and Allan L. Galbraith of The Keenan Law Firm in Atlanta, could not be reached for comment.

Another case over a student disciplined for a violent story is pending before U.S. District Judge Harold L. Murphy in Rome. In that case, Murray County school officials suspended an eighth-grader for the remainder of the school year after he showed his teacher a poem that says “Something Bad is going to happen at school” and describes a scene where “guns go off, bodies drop.”

The mother of that student, unnamed in court pleadings, sued the school district and school officials, noting the story describes the author’s feeling that he must warn other students about the impending danger. In June, the parties to that case, J.U. v. Murray County School District, No. 4:06-CV-77, filed a joint motion asking to withdraw their motions for summary judgment and stay proceedings in the case, saying they had reached a tentative settlement.

The case decided by the 11th Circuit Tuesday was Boim v. Fulton County School District, No. 06-14706.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 11thcircuit; appeal; bang; discipline; education; firstamendment; freespeech; georgia; lawsuit; report; ruling; schools; student

1 posted on 08/22/2007 8:56:47 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

Thoughtcrime comes to America, 23 years behind schedule.


2 posted on 08/22/2007 8:59:26 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: TornadoAlley3

So much for the First Amendment.


3 posted on 08/22/2007 9:01:46 AM PDT by scooter2 (The greatest threat to the security of the United States is the Democratic Party.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

” Student who wrote violent story loses appeal “

I’m guessing that he wasn’t all that appealing to start with....


4 posted on 08/22/2007 9:02:23 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: mvpel

Or maybe that should be:

“Thoughtcrime concurrent Oceana 23 years postschedule.”


5 posted on 08/22/2007 9:03:05 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: scooter2
So much for the First Amendment.

The First Amendment doesn't protect your right to make death threats....

Whether or not this girl's story qualifies as such is a different question -- I'd have to see the story first, and understand the context in which it was written. (For example, did she have an actual antipathy toward her 6th period math teacher?)

I NEVER trust media articles on topics like this. They're invariably written from a viewpoint that is sympathetic to one side ... usually the student's.

6 posted on 08/22/2007 9:08:30 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: TornadoAlley3
“They have taken the position—which we obviously believe is right—that school officials can take reasonable action when they believe that there [are] threats to the safety of school officials or students,” said Brewton.

Good position to take....beats putting up "gun free zone" signs.

7 posted on 08/22/2007 9:13:26 AM PDT by NRA1995 (To Congress and Mr. President: This is OUR country, and don't you forget it!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
11th Circuit rules school was in its power to suspend teen in light of other incidents of school violence across nation.

Even a stopped clock is "correct" twice a day.

Are we to suspect the 11th Circuit got something right? I'd have the see the details of the case to confirm this.

8 posted on 08/22/2007 9:20:17 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: TornadoAlley3
Government schools and the First Amendment are utterly and completely incompatible!

Either we trash the First Amendment or we get rid of the government schools. I vote for getting rid of the government schools.

Government schools are compulsory. This means threat of police force. ( real bullets in those guns on the hip)

Once in the school the child is told to shut up for nearly all of the day. Their right ( and the right of the parents) to freely choose with whom they will associate is trashed. The child is subjected to a curriculum and school policies that can NEVER be religiously neutral in content or consequences.

If the child or parents refuse to cooperate with the government school Gestapo they face police, court, and foster care action, and possibly prison. They are cases of police actually killing parents who have resisted government action.

If a citizen refuses to support the government school abomination, the government will send armed sheriffs to sell his home and business at auction. If the citizen is sufficiently resistant he too may be sent to prison. If sufficiently resistant armed police may kill him.

All of the above is true. This is what government schools are.

9 posted on 08/22/2007 9:20:58 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: scooter2
So much for the First Amendment.

This case has absolutely nothing to do with the First Amendment.

A student in my fifth grade class was suspended from school for a week because he called the teacher a "****ing b****."

Were his First Amendment rights violated? After all, he was just expressing an opinion.

10 posted on 08/22/2007 9:27:49 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
because he called the teacher a "****ing b****."

Is she?

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11 posted on 08/22/2007 9:31:47 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: Lurker
Is she?

She definitely was a bitter, petty woman as I recall her.

Still, I don't think the kid's suspension was unconstitutional.

12 posted on 08/22/2007 9:33:38 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

So what dosage of Ritalin would they have had Stephen King on if things were the same back when he was in school?


13 posted on 08/22/2007 9:40:52 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I see that our courts have adopted Iranian jurisprudence: a dream in a work of fiction constitutes a threat. The same sort of ‘reasoning’ applied in the fatwa against Salman Rushdie—the delusions of a fictional character constitute blasphemy.

I hope the SCOTUS takes the appeal as an opportunity to clarify the true-threat doctrine, and to uphold the First Amendment.


14 posted on 08/22/2007 11:08:18 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: wintertime
Government schools and the First Amendment are utterly and completely incompatible!

We've had public schools since the mid 19th century so we've apparently been doing without the First Amendment for quite a while.
15 posted on 08/22/2007 11:08:29 AM PDT by Borges
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To: r9etb
The First Amendment doesn't protect your right to make death threats....

True, but that is why there is a body of jurisprudence about what constitutes a true threat. It has not been settle by the SCOTUS, so various circuits have different applications as to whether a reasonable speaker, a reasonable hearer to whom the statement is addressed, or a reasonable person overhearing the statement would regard it as a threat.

For instance, if, in the middle of a pillowfight between two junior-high girls, one of the combattants is knocked down, and rises, still weilding only a pillow, and proclaims "I'll kill you," while grinning broadly and thrashing the other about the head and shoulders with the sack of down, no reasonable person in any of the various roles would regard the statement as actually threatening death. It would thus be protected speech under the First Amendment in any circuit.

It seems hard to see how a dream in a work of fiction could rise to the level of a true threat under any of the standards applied by the various Courts of Appeals.

16 posted on 08/22/2007 11:15:35 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
It seems hard to see how a dream in a work of fiction could rise to the level of a true threat under any of the standards applied by the various Courts of Appeals.

The judges in this case affirmed a previous summary judgement in favor of the school. As I understand it, summary judgements are rare to begin with, because they're likely to be appealed. So judges will only grant summary judgement when there is no question as to the legal aspects of the case. The 11th Circus agreed.

I'm going to go with "there's more to the story than what's in this article." The courts clearly say a clear difference between the girl's story, and the pillow fight you described.

17 posted on 08/22/2007 11:44:12 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Borges
We’ve had public schools since the mid 19th century so we’ve apparently been doing without the First Amendment for quite a while.

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They have been utterly and completely incompatible with the First Amendment the entire time they have been in existence.

18 posted on 08/22/2007 4:12:47 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

“The First Amendment doesn’t protect your right to make death threats....”
However, the student’s literary work was clearly stated as being a fiction. Thus, not a genuine death threat. This is just another example of a kid drawing a gun and a re-educational warden deciding that a picture of a gun was the same as a real gun.


19 posted on 08/22/2007 4:20:34 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: The_Reader_David; Borges
I hope the SCOTUS takes the appeal as an opportunity to clarify the true-threat doctrine, and to uphold the First Amendment.

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I hope that the SCOTUS takes the appeal as an opportunity to declare all compulsory funded, compulsory attendance “government-school-kiddie-prisons” unconstitutional.

All schools must strictly restrict free speech, free press, free assembly, and free expression of religion. They must do this to maintain order.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a religiously neutral school. It is axiomatic! No matter what the government school does about curriculum or school policies the government WILL uphold and establish the religious beliefs of some, while destroying those of others!

When government schools compel students to attend their “schools” by threat of police action, they are automatically in violation of every First Amendment Right. This includes the child and the parent.

Government schools have enormous power over the lives of children and their families, if they are not fortunate enough to homeschool or privately school. Their power includes police, court, foster care action, and the real threat of prison for both the parent and the child.

For those parents who wish to escape the government school gestapo, they must: 1) pay the religious-philosophical ransom of private tuition for their child to attend a private school, or 2) pay with their time and lost income to homeschool.

Any citizens who opposes the religious indoctrination of the government schools ( Secularism is a religion) faces the loss of his home or business to sheriff´s auction. ( Real bullets in those guns on the hip)

As a former homeschooling mom, I personally know the power that government schools have over people´s lives. These fascists/Marxists are not good people.

It does not matter how long they have been in existence. Government school never were, are not now, and never will be constitutional!

20 posted on 08/22/2007 4:28:38 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: BuffaloJack
re-educational warden

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The re-education Fascist/Marxist.

21 posted on 08/22/2007 4:29:35 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wideawake

Actually is does. I am assuming your fifth grade classmate (or student) tarred the teacher with the epithet in class. In this case, the disruption of the class—there being a state interest in universal education—was the basis for disciplinary action under the prevailing First Amendment jurisprudence as applied to schools.

In this case, there was no disruption of education: a work of fiction was seized by a state functionary, and used as the basis for a state-imposed punishment.

The state claim that the story constituted a threat very much involves First Amendment jurisprudence, as there is a body of case-law dealing with what speech (or written expression) is, in fact, not protected by the First Amendment because it constitutes a threat (’true threat doctrine’).

The case thus involves the boundaries of what is protected speech or writing under the First Amendment, both boundaries set by the state interest in universal education, and boundaries set by the non-protection of true threats.


22 posted on 08/22/2007 6:44:06 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David; wideawake

The case thus involves the boundaries of what is protected speech or writing under the First Amendment, both boundaries set by the state interest in universal education, and boundaries set by the non-protection of true threats.

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The state has an interest in seeing that all children are fed.

We do NOT have state owned and run grocery stores as a means to accomplish the universal feeding of all children.

The problem and conflict here is that we have compulsory attendance, government owned and run schools. If this incident had occurred at a private school, there would be no First Amendment conflict, because the parents would have willing submitted to the rules of the private school when they enrolled their child.

The fundamental conflict here is that it is impossible for government to run a compulsory school without violating every protection of the First Amendment every minute of every compulsory school day.

The solution¨: Completely privatize universal K-12 education. Parents would buy education for their children in the free market. The government would provide education vouchers to the poor, just as they provide food vouchers now (food stamps).

Sadly, though, if SCOTUS takes this case it will very likely narrowly examine and rule on the problem set before it, and government schools will continue their abuse of all citizen´s rights.


23 posted on 08/23/2007 4:53:14 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Odd, this is from the 11th. They tend to be more rational.


24 posted on 08/23/2007 5:04:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Official incompetence and malice induced by a faddish social hysteria of the current educational and prosecutorial cohort, in this case such adult malice towards young students stinks especially pungently given the overwrought reaction to the Virginia Tech shootings.


25 posted on 08/23/2007 5:05:42 AM PDT by bvw
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To: wintertime
Secularism is a religion

More like the absence of religion.
26 posted on 08/23/2007 7:23:13 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
More like the absence of religion.

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Mandating the absence of religion is as religiously charged in content and consequences as it the inclusion of religion.

It is impossible for K-12 education to be religious neutral. If you do not believe this then describe for us the impossible Nirvana of a religiously neutral school. I and, possibly others, will have great fun with it.

ALL sentient beings have a religious philosophy and worldview that drives the decisions in their lives.

ALL school curriculums and school policies have religious content and religious consequences. It is one ( among many) reason why government must get out of the education business.

Solution: Handle education in the same way we do universal feeding of children. Parents would pay for their own child’s education. The poor would get education vouchers in the mail along with their food stamps ( food vouchers).

If the Supreme Court accepts this case, they will likely focus on the narrow issue of this girl’s story. They will not likely ask why this is a problem in a government school and NEVER a problem in a private school. SCOTUS will not examine the fundamental incompatibility of compulsory government schools and the First Amendment.

27 posted on 08/23/2007 9:21:05 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Borges

No, secularism is a religion: it takes a position on ultimate realities, and derives a code of conduct form that position. Remember that Buddhism and the variant of Taoism that is not admixed with traditional Chinese belief in deities are both religions, and do not regard the ultimate realities as involving God or gods. Neither mihayana nor zen Buddhism involve anything recognizable as worship, yet both are religions. Secularism is a religion.


28 posted on 08/23/2007 8:16:48 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David

Secularism as I understand it does not take a position on matters theological. You live your life according to the world around you. It’s like saying Agnostocism is a religion.


29 posted on 08/23/2007 8:50:32 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

But ‘you live your life according to the world around you’ is a theological position: it denies any effective existence to a transcendent realm, whether God, the gods, or the atheistic transcendence of Buddhism or Taoism. It assumes either that morality can be obtained by reasoning from ‘is’ to ‘ought’, or that morality arises solely from common consent of human beings, or is merely subjective.

As I said, it takes a position on ultimate realties, and derives prescriptions for behavior from that position, thus having the elements common to all religions.


30 posted on 08/24/2007 6:05:10 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: TornadoAlley3

In my opinion, schools are overdoing it as far as punishing alleged “threats”.

When I was in high school, I once told another student I was going to kill him in a voice that was clearly meant to be joking. In response, I was sent to the office, the police were called (I wasn’t arrested, but I was Mirandized), my parents were called, and I was given ten days Alternative School as punishment.

What really pissed me off about the whole incident was the fact that when the class was asked if they felt threatened by my words, only one said yes (one out of a class of almost thirty students), and I’m willing to bet it was a student I had butted heads with before, yet they still gave me the punishment.

I can understand schools being cautious, but surely when twenty-nine out of thirty students felt I was joking, it’s reason enough to believe I was.


31 posted on 05/01/2008 9:57:53 AM PDT by RWB Patriot
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