Posted on 08/21/2007 4:29:38 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
The drumbeat of bad economic news out of Michigan keeps pounding.
The Great Lakes State has lost jobs for six consecutive years, Michigan’s longest run of workplace shrinkages since the Great Depression. Automakers are laying off tens of thousands. Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer is closing up shop in Ann Arbor and Kalamazoo. The state ranks among the top three in the country for home foreclosures and mortgage delinquencies.
Analysts at Comerica Bank, which is moving its headquarters from Detroit to Dallas, say Michigan is stuck in a “one-state recession.”
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Gee, this wouldn’t have anything to do with the Muzzies taking over, would it? It seems wherever they go, economic downturns follow.
Mike
Trust me, it’s VERY old news here in Michigan.
I’m looking nation-wide for a job now... anyone need a good computer geek? A local headhunter told me that our unemployment rate for IT people was 2% — everyone who needed a job in IT either left the state, or changed careers.
“Gee, this wouldn’t have anything to do with the Muzzies taking over, would it? It seems wherever they go, economic downturns follow.”
The one thing that you cannot say about our Middle Eastern immigrants is that they are lazy. In fact, they come over here and work their butts off for that first generation. I’d love to bring a bunch more over here, in trade for some born here who can’t seem to find interest in work.
This cannot be pluasibly blamed on George W. Bush, and even local Democrats realize this. It’s a failure of their own Governor (Jennifer Granholm) and governance.
Clearly, Michigan’s socialist Canadian governor, needs to raise taxes, to attract jobs and stimulate job growth.
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Well..of the two I'd have to say the govenor's idea makes more sense if it was done well but what's really needed is a Right to Work law.
“‘One-state recession’ hampers Michigan”
I’d love to slam Michigan, especially Detroit, Flint, and all the
other urban wastelands.
But this is just...SAD.
This is still a part of the USA (I hope).
Even with way-too-many Muslims and an effectively Canadian governor.
I look at old black-and-white photos of the River Rouge Ford complex,
contemplate the Mustang, Barracuda, Charger and other grand motor
cars birthed in Michigan.
All the harder-than-nails trucks and armaments that won WWII, Korea
and held the line during The Cold War.
And what I hear/see of Michigan today almost makes me weep.
Mike
I don't understand why William Clay Ford or any of the other auto execs never run for Governor.
More like four years of our favorite Canadian immigrant, Heronner the Gov. Sadly, we (collectively) didn’t see fit to fire her last November when we had the chance. We expect to continue this way until 2010.
The last one who can afford to leave Michigan, please leave the lights on for we who must endure.
We actually tried helping out the Great Lake State a little by taking our vacation there. Visited relatives in K-Zoo, G-Rap, the Soo (sounds like a hip-hop tour ;-) among touring other sights. It's a beautiful state, but I'm thankful my parents left MI for AZ when I was a kid.
(I have to say I was tempted to purchase some property in the U.P. It seems undervalued.)
In my opinion, our downward slide began under Carter and has only been halted a couple of times.
“This cannot be pluasibly blamed on George W. Bush, and even local Democrats realize this. It’s a failure of their own Governor (Jennifer Granholm) and governance.”
Bullshirt.
You guys know me by now, and Jen Granholm doesn’t like it when she does a local radio callin show. Granholm can’t lead worth a dang.
However, Engler was in charge for 12 of the past 16 years. The GOP held both houses for most, if not all, of that period. It’s equally true that the GOP raised the amount of spending in any way you measure it. That worked so long as the auto industry was booming, but when things got soft, and the tobacco money was gone, things became a mess.
I’m sorry, but when you have the GOP Speaker of the House trying to get the State to buy notebook computers for every 6th grader — and that plan was passed by both GOP-controlled houses! — then the Dems can’t be said to be the sole problem. When you have the GOP trying to say they’re not having tax increases, when in fact they’re raising fines and fees to an unreasonable point in order to increase revenues, we’ve got a problem.
I’m sorry gang — Engler, Speaker Johnson, et al all let us down. They said they were in favor of small government, but squandered at least a dozen years when they could’ve downsized it.
Pardon me, did you just say you want to raise taxes to attract business to MI?
Been thinking of purchasing a summer place in the Upper. Guess I’ll rethink that for now.
Don’t need to buy a property there and have it taxed to death to pay for Detroit.
“I don’t understand why William Clay Ford or any of the other auto execs never run for Governor.”
Because he’d run Michigan like he runs the Detroit Lions.
I don't think high taxes is what makes Michigan a failure.
Speaking of Muslims...
Our brain-dead Canadian governor (currently overseas seeking jobs) just appointed a Muslim to head our state’s Department of Human Services.
Let’s see...a Muslim is going to be in charge of a huge governmental department comprised mostly of women employees, that service poor mothers and dole out food stamps.
Did I mention he’s also a HUGE democratic party player in the state?
“Plenty of IT jobs here in the Phoenix area, friend.”
Please email me — geek49203 at hotmail dot com
I just lost my largest client. I’ve got a dozen clients, and only one is profitable right now.
But yes, he should fire Matt Millen already.
Well, what does? What is the fundemental cause of the problem?
The problem with Michigan is that we are entrepreneur hostile. The majority of jobs don’t come from big companies but from small ones and especially from startups. The SBT kills any desire for a small business may have to move to Michigan and it is choking the ones we have. You may have made no profit at all in a year but you still will owe this value added tax.
Add in the labor problems caused by not having a right to work law and we are up a creek with nary a paddle in sight.
“In my opinion, our downward slide began under Carter and has only been halted a couple of times.”
It started after WW2. Look at the Wiki for the 12th Street Riots (which I’ve contributed tons of effort) and you’ll see that Detroit alone has lost over 1 million people.
>What is the fundemental cause of the problem?
The labor there is anti-business. Of course you might still turn it around by being small-business oriented where labor doesn’t matter so much.
See #24. I think Harmless is right on the money.
Our Communist Governor’s only plan is to waste more money on the teachers union. She is too stupid to breathe and would die if it wasn’t a reflex reaction!
Once the start-up gets on track it'll just move away from Michigan.
Throw in the 38%!!!! raise they gave themselves at the same time state employees were looking being told they were going to be working for free four hours each pay period, and I really have no use for them. The next time I vote for an incumbent from either party for state office, it will be the one that gets the automatic raises reversed.
Add in that the SBT is such a complicated tax that you really do need an accountant to do it right and you have effectively made it very unattractive to start a business in Michigan.
Yes, I have said many times, the regulatory environment in MI is insane. Only an idiot would open a business there.
MI’s Solution? Raise taxes.
Do you see a problem? I do.
Some would but as it is we don’t even have a chance of keeping them because they are never started.
don’t forget the Mi Supreme Ct, dominated by Repubs, that likes to legislate from the bench and has never heard of Stare Decisis. Repubs had their hands in this mess longer than the Canuck has be around.
That’s kind of sad. A major American city falling apart before our very eyes.
Make no mistake, here - I moved $MILLIONS$ of business out of MI, because of the cig tax they passed.
Rot in hell, MI. I can do business anywhere.
Oh, and for the MI Government types - KMAA.
Yeah that great Laboratory of Liberal ideas and policies Detroit Michigan. What is the Adult Literacy rate 60%?? If we work really hard we can get it down to say 40%? They had an auction for homes in Detroit. They sold for less than used cars. There is what 12,000 abandoned homes in Detroit?
The other Liberal Laboratory is New Orleans LA. Another great example of a chocolate city, where the sport is Murder. Want to bet that Tourists are going to avoid the place? And the Levies are still not in good order. Idiots in Both places. Well as Ron White says “You can’t fix Stupid”>
Matt Millen does a better job running the Detroit Lions than Michigan politicians run their State. Did you’d ever think Matt Millen’s performance could be looked at in a positive light? Just compare him to how Michigan is run.
I guess your Muslims are better than the Muslims in the nabe I lived in Brooklyn, whose stores/restaurants were frequently closed by the BOH, while their obnoxious male children ran around like thug gangsta wannabes, and ruining the quality of life.
“I guess your Muslims are better than the Muslims in the nabe I lived in Brooklyn, whose stores/restaurants were frequently closed by the BOH, while their obnoxious male children ran around like thug gangsta wannabes, and ruining the quality of life.”
I’m not saying that they’re perfect. I’m just saying that they come here and work.
First, yeah, the code of the road in the “old country” always seemed to be that unless the gov’t caught you, it wasn’t illegal. That is a real culture thing that has to be overcome.
Second, the “thug gangsta wannabes” are here too. Most of them have no memory of their parents country. They reject their parent’s moral code, but then don’t have a clue that they have to follow anyone else’s. Usually they outgrow it, and their male relatives usually hit them upside the head when they get too bad (I’ve seen it w/ my own eyes). Give them another generation and, like the Irish, Jews, Italians, et al before them, they’ll get the hint.
it has more to do with the labor unions blocking needed change.
I just want everyone to know, west Michigan sucks. Especially near the lake, like St. Joseph’s. Don’t go there. You will regret it. Please stay away. I don’t want to see any of you near there. I’m warning you ...
I believe most of the Fords have been rodents.
“This cannot be pluasibly blamed on George W. Bush, and even local Democrats realize this.”
Actually, I know plenty of MI Dems that continue to blame the state of the State on GWB. Of course it doesn’t take a lot of brains or logic to be a Dem....
What is your specialty?
As a fan of the Green Bay Packers, I disagree...
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