Posted on 08/21/2007 11:15:21 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
And CITIZENS ONLY for good measure.
I posit that Liberalism is the effect, I don't know what the cause is.
Democrats Secret Advantage Discovered
This does coincide with the rise of the Pill, I wonder if we aren't all drinking more female hormones than we did before the Pill but that is just conjecture on my part.
Conservatives are breeding. Liberals are aborting.. Whats the problem.
Not sure if that makes sense either. When a woman is on the Pill, she gets a steady stream of estrogen that is LOWER than what her body NATURALLY produces. Women off the pill also have estrogen in their urine, and probably at higher levels at certain times of the month than women on the Pill. I understand your point, but it doesn't make sense scientifically.
Prediction - in 100 years, abortion will be viewed similarly to how we view slavery, witch-burning, and leeching today. Lack of children will make it such. It will be considered a brutal practice from an uncivilized age.
I don’t think the Pill is really ‘good’ to take. A lot of women who take it develop cystic mastitis, so smoking and caffeine shouldn’t be taken with the Pill.
Maybe playing with hormones isn’t a good idea. We don’t do it to men that I know of, unless someone wants to instruct me on the contents of Viagra...
[crickets]
No hormones in Viagra. It’s medicine, not hormones.
Good to know. If you don’t already know, when you and the Mrs. have children there are big mood swings sometimes when the hormones get all wild. Not every lady, but most. I find this is an excellent time to refrain from all these, but not limited to:
1. Noticing other females. Of any species.
2. Noticing her weight gain or outgrowing of clothes.
3. Noticing that she in any way has become derelict.
You can thank me later. ;o)
And to what, pray tell, do you attribute the perpetually high birthrates in Muslim countries?
First, Ehrlich’s Population Bomb was a sheer brain-fart, known by wiser heads to be a hoax even at the time.
Second, raw numbers in the aggregate are not as significant as age-distribution and cultural impact. Other factors being equal, a society where the mean age is 29 (Israel) is just going to be a lot more dynamic than one where the mean age is 41 (Russia): that is, if they have the education and the cultural infrastructure to use all that energy.
Simple ... the RETENTION of the their Muslim values. Historically (say the past 600 years or so), has been heavily influenced by Christian values. When those values leave, the basis for the understanding of the relationship of the person to their God, to the State, to their neighbors, and their families is replaced with focus on self.
Sure. What other popular ideas have come and gone, some to be replaced by their total opposite in the space of a generation? There are several, maybe a lot. Note: some of these observations still have the power to put some people off their feed.
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We’d have a better opinion if their out-of-wedlock rate weren’t so high. That usually represents unstable attachment between Mom and Dad, trouble and danger for the unfledged nestlings in such an unstable nest.
Yeah, well, I’m retired from the baby biz.
My babies are now having babies. Come to think of it, over half of my grandbabies live outside of the U.S.
I’ve read a BUNCH about fish, frogs, and other river-dwellers turning up physiologically freaky, with hermaphroditic amphibians, male fish producing yolk proteins and large percentages of fish that were just sexually indeterminate. I’ve read separate accounts about this in NY state, in Colorado, Canada, and Germany.
One culprit seems to be estradiol and other estrogen-related contamination originating from wastwater effluents from sewage treatment plants. All the hormones in pills, patches, and implants, whether for birth control or HRT, are eventually excreted and “feminize” the freshwater sources of the continent.
I think that right there is enough reason to ban hormonal contraceptives, but they’ll never do it, even if their sons start to menstruate..
I’ve got four. I’m a SAHM, so we function on one income.
I would have loved to have a couple more if we started earlier and if our taxes weren’t so high. We waited until our late 20s so we could be financially stable before had kids.
First of all, no baby deserves to be killed by his parents.
Second of all, "liberal" and "conservative" are flexible and fluid categories, with many of today's conservatives having been liberals at some point in their lives. It would be interesting to poll FR on this: "Are you a convert?"
Third of all, we shouldn't kid ourselves that none of our mothers, sisters, girlfriends, wives, or daughters have had abortions. Something like 40% of American women will have an abortion at some point in their lives--- brutal, isn't it? --- and many a conservative woman at 30 had an abortion that the family never knew about when she was 19.
Every one of those abortions involved a man who was complicit in some way. And every one of those abortions affects me as a woman, as an American, and as a human being: it's a "hole" in the diminished future of my country and my world, and a wound in the heart of God.
Well, my fiance and I are just getting married at 30 and 33!
Under your plan, the husband and I would have been able to start having children as soon as we got married. As it is, we’ve had to wait a minimum of 4 years... Incentives like that would also encourage us to go for the 4 kids I’d like instead of the 2 that are probably more practical.
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