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Ensuring a healthy growth in population (can political pollicy encourage childbirth?)
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | August 19, 2007 | Jonathan Last

Posted on 08/21/2007 11:15:21 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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To: taxcontrol

AlbertMohler.com — rather counter-intuitively -— recently posted an article suggesting that the way it works may be just the reverse: that having less kids tends to make people less religious.

It’s a safe bet that spiritual and demographic sterility tend to be mutually-reinforcing cultural trends.


41 posted on 08/21/2007 11:57:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: taxcontrol

AlbertMohler.com — rather counter-intuitively -— recently posted an article suggesting that the way it works may be just the reverse: that having less kids tends to make people less religious.

It’s a safe bet that spiritual and demographic sterility tend to be mutually-reinforcing cultural trends.


42 posted on 08/21/2007 11:57:22 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: RockinRight
You can’t “force” people to have kids,

Of course not. Nobody's suggesting that. This issue is at the center of a problem that I'm not sure we will survive. The problem, put bluntly, is the pill combined with feminist theology. Women have had drummed into them for forty years now, that they have to have careers to be worth anything and that they sell themselves short by just being a mother. That they should wait until after they are fulfilled career-wise (say, about 40) before they start having kids, if at all. No more being a breeder for (ugh) men! And, the pill has given women complete control over conception with which to implement this set of ideas.

Maybe the feminist theology is a good and moral one. Doesn't matter. Feminist ideology will be replaced by non-feminist ideology--either in our culture or by whatever culture replaces it through having more babies. It's not clear whether the pill and self-actualization for women, combined, will or will not bring down western civilization. My sense is it's going to be a very near thing.

We are slaves to our biology and all the pretending in the world that women can have it all doesn't change that one little bit. Women can't have it all and still have a civilization remain for their great-grandchildren. Whoops. They probably won't have any great-grandchildren, so maybe it doesn't matter to them.

43 posted on 08/21/2007 11:57:43 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Mrs. Don-o

This is impossible because Leftists assured us that overpopulation was going to kill Mommy Earth.


44 posted on 08/21/2007 11:58:48 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Hegemony Cricket; Knitebane

You went where I dared not, Don-o lassie!

[here comes whining] Why can’t the brainiacs be the ones having rampant sex and babies? Huh? Sheesh. Not kicking the dog. Honest.


45 posted on 08/21/2007 12:00:10 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: kabar

One thing, though, is that young people build more infrastructure; old people use more infrastructure.

Internal balkanization, especially based on language, is a real challenge (ye gods, look at Quebec) so stopping the lawbreakers and englishing the legitimate newcomers should be a big priority.


46 posted on 08/21/2007 12:00:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I read where the birthrates for several countries (France, Sweden, Norway) are well below the replacement rate but are rising. I haven’t seen the demographics but would speculate that the increases may be attributable to the large number of Muslim immigrants they’ve welcomed.


47 posted on 08/21/2007 12:02:15 PM PDT by philled ("CNBC?...You might as well be doing ham radio at that point."-- Dennis Miller)
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To: Froufrou

and to think, no one here has mentioned the muslim multiplication factor yet.


48 posted on 08/21/2007 12:03:15 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: Greg F

Well, I’m a married papist, TBTG. (I just coined that to convey Thanks Be To God. Let’s see if this meme has legs!)

Just praying every day for my sons -— who are very promising young men -— to gravitate toward splendid fatherhood. In one sense or another. If they imitate their dad, Don-o, they’ll do fine!


49 posted on 08/21/2007 12:05:05 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

But The Population Bomb predicted that we would overpopulate ourselves to death.

How can this be?


50 posted on 08/21/2007 12:06:46 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Knitebane

10% income tax cut per child.
25% income tax cut per child if one parent stays at home.

Yes! But I’d make it graduated: 10% for first child, 25% for two, 40% for three, etc. etc., and everything doubled if one parent stays home AND cares for children. No just “stays home” while outsourcing childcare.

And, as you say, applicable to the married only, since marriage tells the world you’re serious.


51 posted on 08/21/2007 12:11:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The government has been anti-family with their tax policies and pro-abortion with their politics. They will soon reap what they have sown. It will be a balkanized culture with great diversification leading to a weakened body politic complete with a subsidized breeding underclass ill-equiped to handle the challenges of leading the world.


52 posted on 08/21/2007 12:18:03 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: kabar
Just for clarification: the fertility rate for Mexican women is 2.39 (2007 est.), at least according to the CIA World Factbook. Are you saying the fertility rate for the non-Mexican population in the U.S. is 1.2? Or are you saying the Mexican fertility rate is significantly higher in the U.S. than in Mexico? If this is what you're asserting, can you document it?

I'm not just jigging you here. I'm sincerely interested.

And you're right about the ominous nature of out-of-wedlock childbearing. Among white Americans, 1:3. Among black Americans, 2:5. Among Mexican-Americans, 2:3. That spells big trouble down the line.

53 posted on 08/21/2007 12:20:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: crazyshrink

[~shudder!~] They’re invading the countryside, not the cities as much as they have in the past. Scary!


54 posted on 08/21/2007 12:21:16 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Yo-Yo

In a word, no.


55 posted on 08/21/2007 12:21:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: ModelBreaker

I think feminism has a lot to do with it. But it seems that every society, even Rome, reaches a point where this happens.


56 posted on 08/21/2007 12:22:23 PM PDT by RockinRight (Fred Thompson once set fire to a crowd of liberals simply by puffing his cigar and staring real hard)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s kind of funny that 50 years ago we were about to overwhelm the planet with our numbers at 3 billion, and now at 7 billion we are running out of people. This is no better than the Global Warming scam.


57 posted on 08/21/2007 12:24:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Knitebane

That works for me.


58 posted on 08/21/2007 12:25:10 PM PDT by RockinRight (Fred Thompson once set fire to a crowd of liberals simply by puffing his cigar and staring real hard)
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To: kabar

Why do I have the feeling though, that these immigrants aren’t having children out of their love for family and values, but simply because they can’t keep their pants on?


59 posted on 08/21/2007 12:26:30 PM PDT by RockinRight (Fred Thompson once set fire to a crowd of liberals simply by puffing his cigar and staring real hard)
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To: NeoCaveman

I do wonder why that is...perhaps the infusion of liberalism?


60 posted on 08/21/2007 12:27:02 PM PDT by RockinRight (Fred Thompson once set fire to a crowd of liberals simply by puffing his cigar and staring real hard)
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