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U.S. psychologists scrap interrogation ban
kentucky.com ^ | Aug. 20, 2007 | SUDHIN THANAWALA

Posted on 08/20/2007 1:14:54 PM PDT by neverdem

Associated Press

The nation's largest group of psychologists scrapped a measure Sunday that would have prohibited members from assisting interrogators at Guantanamo Bay and other U.S. military detention centers.

The American Psychological Association's policy-making council voted against a proposal to ban psychologists from taking part in any interrogations at U.S. military prisons "in which detainees are deprived of adequate protection of their human rights."

Instead, the group approved a resolution that reaffirmed the association's opposition to torture and restricted members from taking part in interrogations that involved any of more than a dozen specific practices, including sleep deprivation and forced nakedness. Violators could be expelled and lose their state licenses to practice.

Critics of the proposed ban who spoke before the vote at the 148,000-member organization's annual meeting said the presence of psychologists would help insure interrogators did not abuse prisoners.

"If we remove psychologists from these facilities, people are going to die," said Army Col. Larry James, who serves as a psychologist at Guantanamo Bay.

Supporters argued that psychologists should not be working at detention centers where prisoners are detained indefinitely without being charged.

"If psychologists have to be there so detainees don't get killed, those conditions are so horrendous that the only moral and ethical thing is to leave," said Laurie Wagner, a psychologist from Dallas.

The association's vote follows reports that mental health specialists were involved in prisoner abuse scandals at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.


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Psychologists Weigh Interrogation Ban

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1 posted on 08/20/2007 1:14:57 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: bruinbirdman; All

I’m at a loss for words.


2 posted on 08/20/2007 1:18:13 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

They’re nutty.


3 posted on 08/20/2007 1:18:38 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: neverdem
What part of, “We are at war!” do these dolts not comprehend?
4 posted on 08/20/2007 1:20:01 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: neverdem
The nation's largest group of psychologists scrapped a measure Sunday that would have prohibited members from assisting interrogators at Guantanamo Bay and other U.S. military detention centers.

Jolly good! So "we" now get to use psychologists who are not part of the APA - or better yet - psychologists from...Syria....Iraq.....Yemen...Jordan.....Turkey...South Korea! (ding ding ding, we have a many winners! Foreign contract psychologists, doing the jobs Americans won't do !)
5 posted on 08/20/2007 1:20:02 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: The_Victor
What part of, “We are at war!” do these dolts not comprehend?

They only heard the part about go and keep shopping.

6 posted on 08/20/2007 1:24:24 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
But what are their true feelings about this? Maybe they just need some Prozac...
7 posted on 08/20/2007 1:32:09 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: neverdem
There is so much that is wrong with this issue and this article.

First, it would be a policy change and not a law, and therefore would be unenforceable.

Second “violators could be expelled”? Bullsh*t.

Third: If psychologists are removed “people could die”? OF what? Boredom?

Fourth: Psychologists are quacks anyway.

8 posted on 08/20/2007 1:32:49 PM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: silverleaf
"So "we" now get to use psychologists who are not part of the APA - or better yet - psychologists from...Syria....Iraq.....Yemen...Jordan.....Turkey...South Korea!

Smashing idea!

9 posted on 08/20/2007 1:38:54 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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Why Study War?

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10 posted on 08/20/2007 2:30:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
"If psychologists have to be there so detainees don't get killed, those conditions are so horrendous that the only moral and ethical thing is to leave," said Laurie Wagner, a psychologist from Dallas.

Dear Laurie, the terrorists will be happy to assist you in shoving your moral and ethical approach to dealing with them where the sun don't shine.

Then they'll saw off your fool head.

11 posted on 08/20/2007 3:34:49 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: neverdem

Losers. Traitors. Idiots. Useless (to us) idiots. Useful (to muzzies) idiots.


12 posted on 08/20/2007 3:36:28 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: subterfuge; neverdem

Second “violators could be expelled”? Bullsh*t.

....

agreed


13 posted on 08/20/2007 4:40:02 PM PDT by dervish (Pvt. Beauchamp came pre-dehumanized.)
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To: neverdem

Well now.....isn’t that precious?


14 posted on 08/20/2007 4:45:01 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: neverdem
I’m at a loss for words. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Well, I guess you need therapy :)

15 posted on 08/20/2007 5:22:33 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: neverdem

Should a psychologist be present when a jihadist blows him or herself up in a crowded market?


16 posted on 08/20/2007 5:29:33 PM PDT by woofie
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To: subterfuge; dervish
Second “violators could be expelled”? Bullsh*t.

I'm not so sure about that. That might cause some trouble, if being a member of the American Psychological Association is required in order to be a "board certified" psychologist.

17 posted on 08/20/2007 9:32:03 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 08/20/2007 9:49:17 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: The_Victor

They did comprehend it. They voted against the proposal.


19 posted on 08/20/2007 9:51:20 PM PDT by Pencil
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To: neverdem; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks neverdem. You are getting veeery sleepy...


20 posted on 08/20/2007 10:11:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, August 20, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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