Posted on 08/18/2007 6:18:59 PM PDT by sionnsar
rev_media writes to tell us that CNN has a few updates to the Real ID act currently facing legislators. The Real ID acts mandates all states to begin issuing federal IDs to all citizens by 2008. Costs could be as much at $14 billion, but only 40 million are currently allocated.
Several states have passed legislation expressly forbidding participation in the program, while others seem to be all for it.
The IDs will be required for access to all federal areas including flights, state parks and federal buildings. People in states refusing to comply will need to show passports even for domestic flights.
So-o-o-o-....if I just say I'm an illegal immigrant I get right in? Right?
This could get sticky for things like Federal Jury Duty. Imagine if your state didn't join Real ID and you have no passport and get a Fed Jury summons....hmmmmmmm.
LOL! You’ve got a point there.
National Parks, such as: Sleeping Bear Dunes, MI; Yosemite;Pictured Rocks, MI;Grand Canyon, AZ; Blue Ridge Parkway, Virginia--The list is huge
Hey, I think I've read something in the bible about this.
“So-o-o-o-....if I just say I’m an illegal immigrant I get right in? Right?”
Right, but only after you have shown them your illegal alien ID. It’s the one in Spanish.
Achtung! Der Homeland Security ist der highest priority!
Are your papers in order Herr Citizen and Frauleins?
Constitution? Mein Gott! Ve dont’ need no stinkin’ Constitution!
*NOW PRESENT YOUR PAPERS AT ONCE*
Then they're not reall "undocumented".
Hmmmmm...
As someone who flies a few dozen times a year, I'd like the IDs to be valid. As someone who votes every few years I'd like to see a real ID required for that. Every invalid vote cancels out a valid one.
As someone who flies a few dozen times a year, I'd like the IDs to be valid. As someone who votes every few years I'd like to see a real ID required for that. Every invalid vote cancels out a valid one. ;p>So I think we can agree that it doesn't have to be provided for every possible transaction, right? Like visiting a National Park?
Are they going to set up checkpoints on I-93 and NH Routes 16, 302, 3, and 116?
Since the writer doesn’t know the difference between a state and a federal park, I think I’ll discount this report.
If true..., a number of very overcrowded parks will become much more worthwhile to visit!
I try to buy a federal lands pass every year, they aren’t inexpensive but I like supporting the parks, and they avoid having to pay any entrance fees to the parks, nat forests and blm lands. No picture on them as yet but with other id are pretty positive. A few dollars well spent.
OK, I'll sign on for the biometric ID when they add it as a requirement for participating in all Federal elections.
Regards,
GtG
Time to overthrow the government. But not violently: that is against site rules.
How about cashing a check at the Post Office? Or renting a Post Office Box? Or picking up your own mail after a vacation hold? Or applying for a Passport??
I prefer micro chipping myself. Can't lose it or forget it and you don't have to pull your wallet out. Just pass by the scanner.
Have you ever cashed a check at a post office?
So-o-o-o-....if I just say I’m an illegal immigrant I get right in? Right?
This is BS. I go to national parks all the time and they do not even ask for ID, just money.
Ihre papieren, bitte...
Scr*w that, mein herr. Not gonna get one, not gonna carry one.
hillary will
complete
the police state.
Thank for the heads’ up! Planning a return tour (for me, first ever visit for the goodwife) of MI next year, including places I never saw when I was by residence a Michigander. We will bring our passports — now if only they’d stamp them!
That could be a typo. CNN was abysmally slow at loading, else I might have posted their report instead.
That could be an error (I said "typo" because sometimes my fingers seem to run ahead of my thought). CNN was abysmally slow at loading, else I might have posted their report instead.
I have a unique idea. Why not just cut out the PC crap, kick the sh!t out of the terrorists, Secure the Borders, Deport every illegal from the country, throw out every Liberal and RINO in Government, and return this to a Nation of the people, by the people, for the people that are American Citizens.
No National I.D., or tracking would then be needed.
None of them had valid passports did they?
What, they all did?
Oh.
Until you pass by a "non-official" scanner and someone else gets a duplicate "micro chip".
"Mister AlaskaErik, our scanners show conclusively that you were in the area when M_ XYZ was murdered, but you say you were camping well back of nowhere. Please provide proof of your assertion that you were 'well back of nowhere' and remained there for the entire duration of your trip, despite our records to the contrary?"
*\;-)
Post office is a Federal building too, right? Does this mean we need a passport to mail a letter?
Yah, but how would Democrats ever get re-elected if you did that?
(Okay. A few would. And some are good folk. But they're toast anyway, once/if the public sees the the current takeover of the Dem party by the extremely extreme Left.)
It appears to have been an error by the slashdotter. I clicked on the CNN link, and I found nothing about state parks. Here's the only two references to parks: "Americans may need passports to board domestic flights or to picnic in a national park next year if they live in one of the states defying the federal Real ID Act." and "The cards would be mandatory for all "federal purposes," which include boarding an airplane or walking into a federal building, nuclear facility or national park, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told...."
I'm glad to know I'll be able to just stroll into a nuclear facility next year just by flashing my passport, however.
Sorry, but you must present a valid passport to apply for your initial passport.
**The IDs will be required for access to all federal areas including flights, state parks and federal buildings. People in states refusing to comply will need to show passports even for domestic flights.**
Hmmmm. Whose idea is this?
Not true.
I got mine with a drivers license and a certified copy of my birth certificate.
OK, I reread the thread and saw you wuz joshin...
My bad!!
Glad you caught the joke. At least, I hoped that it was...
This kind of goes along with a theory of mine that the national parks will be, if they have not been already, turned over to some sort of international consortium to collateralize the federal debt.
That and alot of the land owned by the BLM.
OK, so if they START issuing these ID’s when are they going to start restricting access to parks, flights, and federal buildings? They can’t do it right away, because no one will have this stuff. The wait for a passport is horrendous now.
Good bye America....
Where I live, everyone standing in line to vote last year thought that showing ID should be required to vote.
So I will know have to have a passport in order to go from state to state?
I read the CNN article and I can’t tell if this applies to minors.
What if you have your children with you when you go to the post office? Are they allowed to enter with you? Or do they need passports on their bodies at all times also?
Eff them! I’ll never step foot in another Fed park!! Friggin tyrants!
At risk of being accused of kidnapping them?
I guess so.
Papers please.
:(
Just after the 9/11, I took my kids to Canada to our favorite Chinese restaurant. I got sent over to customs and interrogated. I was told that to travel with them in Canada, I needed to have for them, their photo ID, a copy of their birth certificate, and a letter from my husband stating that I had his permission to travel in Canada with them without him being present.
I was stunned. I didn’t ask the obvious, “If I had no scruples about kidnapping them, what makes them think I would stop at forging a letter from my husband, also?” I figured that I would only end up spending all day there and ending up in a passel of trouble and there would go any chance of lunch, so I kept my mouth shut.
They let us go, and, yes, we did get lunch.
And for those that want to whine about certain areas of land as national 'treasures' if it bothers you so much get a bunch of like minded individuals together and buy it up yourself.
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