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Are We Goin' to San Fransisco?
CWIPP (Christian Witness to a Pagan Planet) ^ | Aug 15, 2007 | Dr. Peter Jones

Posted on 08/16/2007 9:01:39 PM PDT by creedorchaos.com

by Dr. Peter Jones

In 1974, when I left the States to teach in "godless" France, the cultural revolution was a Left coast/San Fran' phenom', and America was still "Christian." When I returned in 1991, I was in for culture shock, but still never imagined what lay ahead.

One man warned us. In 1978, Pastor Charles Mcllhenny recorded his experiences after his church fired a homosexual organist (When the Wicked Seize a City). Church property was repeatedly vandalized and his family almost killed by a firebomb. "Law enforcement" never found the culprits. Mcllhenny used San Francisco as a striking example of what America might become. Are we "goin' to San Francisco?" as the 60s hit song asked?

Last May, San Francisco elected Theresa Sparks president of its Police Commission. Theresa is a transgendered Vietnam veteran, twice-divorced and father of three grown children. In 2003 s/he was both the chief executive officer of the sex-toy retailer Good Vibrations, and the city's Woman of the Year. It may be "only San Francisco," but remember that Nancy Pelosi, congresswoman from San Francisco, is third in line for the presidency. As the 1967 song predicted: "All across the nation such a strange vibration…There's a whole generation with a new explanation…"

The "new explanation" appears in a May 2007 Gallup poll:

57% of Americans now view homosexuality as "an acceptable alternative lifestyle" (34% in 1982)

Here is this "whole new generation":

75% of 18-34 year olds, and 72% of Democrats consider homosexuality an acceptable alternative lifestyle

Homosexuals represent only 2% of the population, but culture unwinds once sexuality is "liberated." The worldwide unwinding is fanned by the media. The Los Angeles Times recently ran a front-page article on gays in sport, concluding that it is no big deal. The BBC World Service series on "Coming Out," communicated a similar no-big-deal message. Is it a big deal?

I see the change everywhere I go. In October, 2007, I will teach on homosexuality in Bogotá, Colombia, a city that wants to become the gay capital of the world. In Brazil I learned that the legislature was criminalizing "anti-homosexual speech." Homosexuality has a powerful voice in the EU and at the UN. Much of the world is changing. Here's how it happens:

Language Changes: "Free speech" is curtailed by those who define "hate speech." Members of the European Parliament from France, the Netherlands and Italy vilified Poland as "hateful" and "repulsive" for refusing to promote homosexuality in schools.

Education Changes: In 2007 the California Senate passed Bill SB 777, prohibiting all classes, school activities, textbooks, and teachers from instruction that "reflects or promotes bias against" homosexuals, transgenders, and bisexuals in public schools (including kindergarten). The executive committee of the National Education Association is urging its members to make sexual orientation training a requirement for those earning a license to teach.

Therapy Changes: The American Psychological Association is considering a denunciation of any attempt by therapists to change sexual orientation.

Church Changes: In 2004, Gene Robinson, a homosexual priest, living publicly with a male lover, was ordained bishop in the Episcopal Church, setting off a fire-storm of controversy in the world-wide Anglican communion.

Public Service Changes: Dr. James Holsinger, a quality candidate for Surgeon General, committed one fatal error- he once opposed a decision that sought to name a practicing lesbian as an associate pastor. Holsinger's fate may indicate that the place of biblical Christians in government service is in jeopardy.

Law Enforcement Changes: How a transgendered promoter of sex toys enforces public morals in the Bay Area may become a prototype as gay and lesbian judges are appointed all over the country.

In all these areas the 2% determine how the 98% must behave. How, do Christians live in a "San-Francisco" world? What should YOU do?

Vote (but don't count on it);

Understand sexuality in its theological context, as a part of the defense of the honor of God as Creator and the dignity of man in the image of God, in order to make sense of the Gospel message in today's world;

By the power of Christ and his Spirit, preach and witness to this Gospel publicly for all you are worth, both as churches and as individual believers. We cannot allow our mouths to be closed. As Paul said: "Pray for me that I might open my mouth with boldness…to speak what I must speak" (Ephesians 6:20);

If necessary, go to jail. A Brazilian Christian in Rio this Spring asked me: "What should we do in light of this new law prohibiting anti-homosexual speech?" I replied: "Are you ready to go to jail?" which is precisely where Paul was!

Do you still say, "This will never happen in my town. I don't live in San Francisco!"? ------------------------------ Peter Jones Return to home

Website: http://www.cwipp.org Email: peter@cwipp.org

Executive Director of CWIPP (Christian Witness to a Pagan Planet). Dr. Jones was Professor of New Testament at Westminster Seminary in California for 12 years. He presently serves on the executive committee of the World Reformed Fellowship. CWIPP seeks to explain the two religious options vying for the modern mind (Christianity and Paganism) in order to equip the church to answer, in the power of the gospel, the questions emerging in a culture dominated by planetary paganism, for the sake of her evangelism and her intentional Christian living.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexual; sexuality; worldview
Dr. Jones will be doing an audio interview about his book "Capturing the Pagan Mind." with Creedorchaos.com's Josh Forest in the coming weeks.
1 posted on 08/16/2007 9:01:40 PM PDT by creedorchaos.com
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To: creedorchaos.com

Good observations, all. Interestingly enough, the entire discussion takes place with the assumption that the God who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for “going to San Francisco” is rather dead, and quite incapable of expressing his displeasure on such a scale in the 21st century AD. That’s CE, for you neopagans out there.


2 posted on 08/16/2007 9:32:44 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Reagan; He's the second coming of Dole.)
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To: creedorchaos.com

Met with Dr. Jones several times, and once gave him a ride from the airport to a conference at our church. A delightful man, and full of wisdom and experience. One of the stories he told me was of his chldhood friend, John Lennon.


3 posted on 08/16/2007 9:33:35 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: creedorchaos.com
Are We Goin' to San Fransisco?

I sure as hell hope not.

4 posted on 08/16/2007 11:49:37 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

You couldn’t pay me to go to San Francisco and I live approximately 130 miles from that sick city!


5 posted on 08/16/2007 11:57:31 PM PDT by oldteen
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To: onedoug

There only 2 s’s in San Francisco...unless that’s a lisp.


6 posted on 08/17/2007 2:15:15 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: creedorchaos.com

Be sure to wear some poppies in your hair.


7 posted on 08/17/2007 5:34:53 AM PDT by DGHoodini
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To: onedoug
I think we are already there FRiends and what a long strange trip it's been.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

8 posted on 08/17/2007 7:11:30 AM PDT by expatguy (New and Improved ! - Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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