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Why Is There No Liberal Karl Rove?
North Star Writers Group ^
| August 16, 2007
| Dan Calabrese
Posted on 08/16/2007 11:25:48 AM PDT by Dan Calabrese
If Karl Rove was responsible for dividing America and shredding the Constitution heady achievements for a political consultant inquiring minds want to know:
Who is the liberal Karl Rove?
And since the answer is obviously, There isnt one, perhaps we can glean something from asking why.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; dickmorris; georgesoros; getrove; jamescarville; media; rove; zogbyism
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To: Dan Calabrese
There are actually several.
Some of them are good, some of them ain't.
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posted on
08/16/2007 11:27:12 AM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: Dan Calabrese
Who is the liberal Karl Rove?
Bob Shrum. the Anti Rove.
In all ways you can measure, except gender.
Rove wins...Shrum as we all know is famous for losing.
Rove’s on the Right...Shrum is on the Left.
Yin and Yang, so to speak.
3
posted on
08/16/2007 11:27:26 AM PDT
by
Badeye
(Gawd, I hope Badeye sees this! (Ping, and I always will))
To: Dan Calabrese
The liberal Karl Rove is a hydra-like creature. Carville is one of its many heads.
4
posted on
08/16/2007 11:28:16 AM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
(Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
To: Dan Calabrese
I’m sure Rove will be getting a network show, a la George Stephanopolus, the Clinton hack.
To: Dan Calabrese
This writer actually seemed to have cheaped out and gone the lazy route, if he had done any research, he would have realized that saying Atwater was the first, is akin to saying Bush is the first southerner to be President.
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posted on
08/16/2007 11:29:25 AM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: Dan Calabrese
7
posted on
08/16/2007 11:30:02 AM PDT
by
Manic_Episode
(Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
To: Dan Calabrese
Because liberals have no core beliefs, just feelings du jour.
8
posted on
08/16/2007 11:30:05 AM PDT
by
N. Theknow
(Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
To: Badeye
Shrum? What campaign he worked on was actually successful?
9
posted on
08/16/2007 11:30:39 AM PDT
by
SolidWood
To: SolidWood
Shrum? What campaign he worked on was actually successful?
Reread my post slowly....
10
posted on
08/16/2007 11:33:43 AM PDT
by
Badeye
(Gawd, I hope Badeye sees this! (Ping, and I always will))
To: Dan Calabrese
He works for Fox News now. It was Dick Morris.
To: Badeye
To: Dan Calabrese
The Dems need to manufacture mythic images on the Right in order to explain why a bunch of losers (whom nobody likes or agrees with) keep winning national elections.
On the Republican side, we don't have an equivalent need to explain our loses (we blame our own politicians for not being good enough) and so we do not manufacture Democrat masterminds who are secretly pulling the strings of society.
Rove was good. But his myth is a creation of the Left. We just don't reciprocate.
13
posted on
08/16/2007 11:34:43 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
To: NonValueAdded

I'm #$%^&^&* sick of these $#$%^&*)ing snakes!
14
posted on
08/16/2007 11:35:03 AM PDT
by
rfp1234
(Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
To: Dan Calabrese
>Who is the liberal Karl Rove?
Why aren’t there any intelligent morons?
Why isn’t there any white colored black paint?
Why isn’t there dry rain?
OXYMORON.
15
posted on
08/16/2007 11:35:55 AM PDT
by
bill1952
("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
To: SolidWood
My bad.
No problemo, I do the same thing all the time.
16
posted on
08/16/2007 11:36:18 AM PDT
by
Badeye
(Gawd, I hope Badeye sees this! (Ping, and I always will))
To: Dan Calabrese
Why Is There No Liberal Karl Rove? Because it is a lot easier to sell bread than it is to sell dog sh!t in a bag.
17
posted on
08/16/2007 11:36:48 AM PDT
by
gridlock
(ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
To: Dan Calabrese
James Carville IS the liberal ROVE!........
18
posted on
08/16/2007 11:38:11 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
To: Judges Gone Wild
Dick Morris is a “Hired Gun”. He works both sides of the fence........
19
posted on
08/16/2007 11:39:08 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
To: Dan Calabrese
..everything we were later told Rove was. A dirty trick artist, a base-panderer, a race-baiter . . . you know the litany. Funny thing is, that sounds like a job description for a Democrat Political Activist.
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posted on
08/16/2007 11:39:53 AM PDT
by
BallyBill
(Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
To: Judges Gone Wild
Bill Clinton is actually the closest thing to what THEY think Rove was.
21
posted on
08/16/2007 11:42:16 AM PDT
by
BallyBill
(Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
To: Dan Calabrese
Because Karl Rove works on getting living people to vote.
22
posted on
08/16/2007 11:44:10 AM PDT
by
elizabetty
(The funding dried up and I can no longer afford Tagline Messages.)
To: Dan Calabrese
Whaat about the snake-head — Carville?
23
posted on
08/16/2007 11:47:58 AM PDT
by
expatpat
To: Dan Calabrese
Karl Rove thinks outside the box. He is the anti-group-thinker.
In 1981, he brought direct mail targeting to the GOP, a political revolution then that became commonplace later on.
In 2000, he shocked the “conventional thinking” by saying that you could win the White House *without* winning either New York or California...something unheard of prior to that point.
In contrast, the Left is groupthink central. Every wonk at MSNBC applauds the same thing and boos the same thing. They all think alike.
They all want to ban the same things and mandate the same things.
...and anyone who thinks differently is shunned, scorned, shamed, or attacked.
24
posted on
08/16/2007 11:49:44 AM PDT
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: bill1952
Why isnt there dry rain?
Reminds me of comedian Steven Wright - “If I melt dry ice can I go swimming without getting wet?”
25
posted on
08/16/2007 11:52:08 AM PDT
by
Gil4
(Time Man of the Year 2006 - and I'm darned proud of it)
To: Badeye
Rove wins... Not any more! Rove led the GOP into the 2006 debacle. Frankly, I can't understand why so many conservatives want to keep following him off the cliff.
To: Dan Calabrese
They don’t have anyone that smart.
27
posted on
08/16/2007 11:56:45 AM PDT
by
Doctor Raoul
(What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
To: Dan Calabrese
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posted on
08/16/2007 11:57:16 AM PDT
by
Doctor Raoul
(What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
To: Doctor Raoul
They dont have anyone that smart. Smart? Check out the 2006 election results.
To: Dan Calabrese
The EEvil Rove is Rasputin, invented by the media. Just as was the EEvil Lee Atwater. The reason the media doesn’t invent a liberal Rasputin, is they don’t want to create an EEvil liberal Rasputin.
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posted on
08/16/2007 12:03:14 PM PDT
by
norwaypinesavage
(Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
To: Captain Kirk
Smart? Check out the 2006 election results. Being smart gives you no ability to prevent political pendulums from swinging. Your point is silly.
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posted on
08/16/2007 12:09:14 PM PDT
by
Minn
(Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
To: Captain Kirk
Rove wins...
Not any more! Rove led the GOP into the 2006 debacle. Frankly, I can’t understand why so many conservatives want to keep following him off the cliff.
You need to learn to differentiate between a Presidential campaign cycle, a first term ‘mid term’ and a mid term like last year.
There was nothing Rove could have done given the Foley scandal and the Senate’s nonsense stretching from ‘gang of fourteen’ to Mecaca. Especially since both of those ‘scandals’ broke so late in the campaign.
32
posted on
08/16/2007 12:10:17 PM PDT
by
Badeye
(Gawd, I hope Badeye sees this! (Ping, and I always will))
To: Dan Calabrese
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posted on
08/16/2007 12:13:43 PM PDT
by
MikeHu
Rove is different than Carville, and Atwater too, and most of the campaign strategists and consultants in one respect - he's also a policy guy.
Usually once the governing begins, the campaign gun's job is finished, if they continue in the administration it's usually in a political role at the party h.q. for example.
Rove served in campaign and policy roles.
34
posted on
08/16/2007 12:14:44 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
To: Badeye
Shrum’s congrats to Ketchup Boy was the highlight of election night ‘04.
To: Chi-townChief
‘Shrums congrats to Ketchup Boy was the highlight of election night 04.’
Yep....I’ll always wonder if they actually contacted and offered up a Cabinet position or three before reality bit em both in the ass.
36
posted on
08/16/2007 12:21:17 PM PDT
by
Badeye
(Gawd, I hope Badeye sees this! (Ping, and I always will))
To: Dan Calabrese
Who is the liberal Karl Rove?Who is the conservative Karl Rove?
37
posted on
08/16/2007 12:25:37 PM PDT
by
meyer
(It's the entitlements, stupid!)
To: Dan Calabrese
The elevation of Karl Rove by libs to the position of The Great Omnipotent Evil One is just a standard part of the left’s perpetual stance towards Republicans. Every Republican president, despite however many degrees from prestigious institutions, is viewed as the village idiot. Remember Reagan was called an amiable dunce. Therefore because someone is beating the bejeesus out of them, it must be some behind-the-scenes operator like Rove who is responsible for all the conservative triumphs. It certainly can’t be the Republican president.
To: Dan Calabrese
There was-—his name was Carville.
39
posted on
08/16/2007 12:27:43 PM PDT
by
Wonder Warthog
(The Hog of Steel-NRA)
To: Dan Calabrese
“Why Is There No Liberal Karl Rove?”
Because carville ain’t that smart.
LLS
40
posted on
08/16/2007 12:29:01 PM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
To: Badeye
A defeat is a defeat, midterm or otherwise. People have very short memories here.
The scandals had little to do with the 2006 debacle. It was Iraq first and last. You're right not even Rove could sell a sow's ear (Iraq) as a silk purse.
To: ClearCase_guy
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posted on
08/16/2007 12:35:12 PM PDT
by
avacado
To: Captain Kirk
A defeat is a defeat, midterm or otherwise. People have very short memories here.
The scandals had little to do with the 2006 debacle. It was Iraq first and last.
couldn’t disagree more with you. If that was the case poll after poll would show full support for Dems to cut the funding in Iraq. As we know, thats hardly the case, by a majority, in poll after poll after poll.
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posted on
08/16/2007 12:35:27 PM PDT
by
Badeye
(Gawd, I hope Badeye sees this! (Ping, and I always will))
To: Badeye
Disagree...the Democrats have pretty much given Bush everything he wants on Iraq. The public voted a change in 2006 on Iraq and got the surge in return. Hence, Congres is even more unpopular than Bush right right now. As Wallace said, "ain't a dime's worth difference."
Folks here who don't believe that Iraq is central to Bush's unpopularity (and now the the popularity of the me-too Democratic Congress) are enganging in wishful thinking (just like they were before the 2006 debacle).
To: Captain Kirk
Try Raum Emmanuel - he’s definitely the liberal version of Karl Rove...
To: Captain Kirk
The public voted a change in 2006 on Iraq and got the surge in return.
The polling data doesn’t support the assertions you make here CK.
Mike DeWine didn’t lose his job because of Iraq here in Ohio. George Allen didn’t lose his because of it either.
In fact, I don’t think we can name a single fired pol from last November that was cast aside by voters that can show Iraq was ‘the reason’.
Mid terms have always been first and foremost about local politics, and local perceptions.
46
posted on
08/16/2007 12:57:45 PM PDT
by
Badeye
(Gawd, I hope Badeye sees this! (Ping, and I always will))
To: Sonny M
James Carville?
Rahm Emanuel?
47
posted on
08/16/2007 1:03:08 PM PDT
by
Maceman
To: Badeye
There was nothing Rove could have done given the Foley scandal and the Senates nonsense stretching from gang of fourteen to Mecaca. Especially since both of those scandals broke so late in the campaign were October surprises concocted in collusion between Big Journalism and the Democratic Party.
48
posted on
08/16/2007 1:03:51 PM PDT
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
To: Dan Calabrese
....Who is the liberal Karl Rove? ......
Some call him the Seprent Head. Others call him James Carville.
49
posted on
08/16/2007 1:06:39 PM PDT
by
bert
(K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
To: bert
Serpent Head has my vote as the anit-Rove.
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posted on
08/16/2007 1:09:33 PM PDT
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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