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2 U.S.-bound Iraqis held in Mexico
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 08/13/2007 | Sean Mattson

Posted on 08/14/2007 10:16:58 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

MONTERREY, Mexico — Two Iraqis traveling to the United States were arrested Monday at the Monterrey International Airport with fake Swiss passports, authorities said.

The two men, who said they were Chaldean Christians ages 25 and 30, were fleeing discrimination in war-torn Iraq, said Luis Robles, a Mexican immigration official.

"They behaved a little strangely, so they were sent for a secondary interrogation," Robles said.

The men were headed to California, where one man said he had a sister, Robles said.

There are sizable communities of Iraqi Christians in the state.

The arrests marked the second time this year that Iraqi Christians trying to reach the United States through Mexico were detained in Monterrey.

In January, 11 Iraqis, including a woman and a 2-year-old girl, were arrested with fake passports.

In both cases, they flew to Monterrey from Madrid, Spain, on a flight that immigration authorities said is an illegal immigration conduit.

"We put a lot of emphasis on that flight," Robles said.

The men, whose names authorities did not immediately release, will be sent to Mexico City for further investigation.

Under Mexican law, they could face charges or deportation. But if they clear terrorist watch lists, they may be released.

The Iraqis arrested in January were freed in Mexico without charges.

They did not seek refugee status in Mexico and eventually left the country, said Cecilia Romero, Mexico's top immigration official.

"The situation in Iraq, as we all know, is a conflictive situation," Romero said in January. "They are fleeing a war in their country and we can't simply tell them 'Go.'"

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; chaldeanchristians; immigrantlist; iraqichristians; monterrey; refugees
"In both cases, they flew to Monterrey from Madrid, Spain, on a flight that immigration authorities said is an illegal immigration conduit."
1 posted on 08/14/2007 10:17:01 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: Roamin53; genxer; time4good; NoTaxTexas; RGVTx; notaliberal; 19th LA Inf; ImpBill; captjanaway; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


2 posted on 08/14/2007 10:18:31 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch

A Mexican Jail is too good for them....!


3 posted on 08/14/2007 10:18:52 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: SwinneySwitch

2 held. Great, but how many other potential Jihadists have gotten through over the past decade?


4 posted on 08/14/2007 10:19:03 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy

So, THAT’s why we’re getting the immigration thing shoved down our throat - it’s a cover for incoming terrorists...We pay the Mexican gov’t to search and seize and they get our US American dollars via illegals working here in America.


5 posted on 08/14/2007 10:20:55 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: SwinneySwitch

“In both cases, they flew to Monterrey from Madrid, Spain, on a flight that immigration authorities said is an illegal immigration conduit.”

And just a month ago BUSH was insisting on OPEN borders.

I am suspicious of his latest move ...


6 posted on 08/14/2007 10:23:02 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: SwinneySwitch; Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; Lazamataz; Darksheare; pissant; najida; r-q-tek86; blackie; ..
And we are not building the fence and securing the borders, WHY?????
7 posted on 08/14/2007 10:24:23 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

No question that our wide-open borders are a huge liability in the WOT. Our southern border is of particular concern. Amazing that a President who makes terrorism a central concern wouldn’t bother to secure the damn border.


8 posted on 08/14/2007 10:25:01 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: nmh

I just don’t beleve anything he says on the subject.


9 posted on 08/14/2007 10:26:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Don Corleone

what IF they are christians? What IF they are legitimately fleeing?


10 posted on 08/14/2007 10:26:36 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: princess leah; SwinneySwitch

Somehow, I get the feeling that Iraqi Christians are not “incoming terrorists.”


11 posted on 08/14/2007 10:28:46 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: himno hero

That needs to be verified, but if you are a Christian, pray for them. We know God can make things work out. If they meant harm, well, then pray for justice...


12 posted on 08/14/2007 10:29:36 AM PDT by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I actually did volunteer work to help get him elected but he is royally pissing me off with his immigration stance ... I don’t trust him ... he’s a stubborn one ... I can’t imagine him letting go on this.


13 posted on 08/14/2007 10:30:13 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: himno hero

“what IF they are christians? What IF they are legitimately fleeing?”


Why ARE they travelling on fraudulent passports? What IF they are illegitimately trying to enter the US?

Sorry, “Christian Persecution Syndrome” ain’t flying in this story. Lock ‘em up....Better yet, send ‘em back, via Iran or Syria, see if they still claim to be “Christians”.


14 posted on 08/14/2007 10:32:22 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


15 posted on 08/14/2007 10:37:02 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: SwinneySwitch

Still probing, but with every failure, they learn what and what not to do on the next excursion.

Do not think for a moment that a few already have not been successful. Perhaps at the present time, their numbers are too few and too scattered to strike effectively, but that is expected to shift over the next few years.

“Iraqi Freedom” means many different things to various people.


16 posted on 08/14/2007 10:43:29 AM PDT by alloysteel (Never attribute to ignorance that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: himno hero

What IF they are christians? What IF they are legitimately fleeing?

With FAKE Swiss passports?


17 posted on 08/14/2007 10:44:57 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: BritExPatInFla

...have someone inquire at their destination... there are always ways to check the story.
Are they going to that cal. community of christians?
Normally people run to a sanctuary where they have relatives, friends and a support system. Also, If I was running,I too would use false docs.

Another thing...in a lot of those third world countries...most can not leave as they cannot get visas....Thus they have to get a faker/forgery.

to me this is all plausible.

let their support group come fwd

I doubt jihadist will step up to the plate on this one!


18 posted on 08/14/2007 10:48:52 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: Chi-townChief

Somehow, I get the feeling that “liers” could be anything!


19 posted on 08/14/2007 10:49:57 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: himno hero

shudread

I doubt the Jihadists will step up to the plate on this one!


20 posted on 08/14/2007 10:51:27 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Why?

Because when the NAU is in place we will not have national borders. Canadians and Mexicans will be able to travel as if they were a Californian going to Oregon. Don’t even have to slow down when you cross the State line.


21 posted on 08/14/2007 10:53:54 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: himno hero

Plausible? Could be.

Legal? No.


22 posted on 08/14/2007 10:54:12 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch

there are a lot of places in Africa...same thing...the common man cannot get access to leave.
it boils down to can you afford a bribe/cash payment large enough to buy your way out? Then there is still the plane fare


23 posted on 08/14/2007 10:59:06 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: SwinneySwitch

Sprinkle some Holy Water on them. If it begins to steam, they are liars.


24 posted on 08/14/2007 11:10:16 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander

Christians with fake Swiss passports?

They’re liars.


25 posted on 08/14/2007 11:15:32 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch

If they were Muslims, the Mexicans would have let them through.

REAL non-Muslims from Islamic countries who are persecuted should be given asylum here. We can expel an illegal Muslim for every one we take in - sort of even out the balance.


26 posted on 08/14/2007 11:22:21 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: himno hero; All
“what IF they are Christians? What IF they are legitimately fleeing?

_________________________

Then I am sure they would enjoy a nice bacon & ham club sandwich for lunch.

27 posted on 08/14/2007 11:37:37 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: himno hero

“what IF they are christians? What IF they are legitimately fleeing?”

What if?

It doesn’t matter if they are or not. Legal is Legal and Illegal is still Illegal.

Come in the front door or don’t come.

Period.

We are at WAR with a culture that wishes our extermination. That border and any who would cross it, have to be monitored closely and anyone of suspect origin detained until their intent is known and then processed LEGALLY or tossed out of the country.


28 posted on 08/14/2007 12:12:00 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

sorry,bud...I will not buy your argument. It is almost reasonable...

sure it taints the transaction

For some,to get out of where they are they have to either do it illegally or do it illegally. To a lot of these people,cost is a concern and frequently, the black market is cheaper than the Govt. Also,lets put the shoe on the other foot, when asked your reason for travel, would you readily disclose you are leaving because of persecution, that you are a Christian in moland?

the fact is not everyone can move with the ease that you do

the culture you are at war with are momen...

and yes, a porkroast, gravy and mash potatoes could well spell the difference on a declared Christian.

again, this is all speculation, right down to the story


29 posted on 08/14/2007 12:50:12 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: himno hero

Buy my argument or not, the fact remains we are at War with a culture that wants our extermination.

We are suicidal if we do not close that border down and monitor EVERY individual that crosses it. These people will not hesitate to lie, cheat, steal, whatever to get into this country to kill you,k your wife, your daughter your sons, their families. If you don’t believe that then you’ve not been paying attention the last 5 years or so.


30 posted on 08/14/2007 1:22:57 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

I do not deny that for one moment

thats why I said lett their support group come forward. If their people are practicing, ham eating christians, they will have no problem getting the heat off of those guys.

If the jihadists come fwd,you are right!

To me? Islam is Satan personified right down to the lieing, cheating, stealing, forging, murdering etc etc, Islam is everything anti and contrary to Christ, thus the Antichrist.
They will do anything to achieve their ends...and our demise.

So,yes,I will continue to be the discriminatory person I am,(right down to the no skinny woman neither)so for me? Christians are welcome, mosnot.


31 posted on 08/14/2007 2:30:16 PM PDT by himno hero
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