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Sanctuary Cities ((Essay by Fred Thomspon)
I'm with Fred ^ | 08/13/07 | Fred D. Thompson

Posted on 08/13/2007 3:25:13 PM PDT by SE Mom

If you listen to folks who oppose immigration and border enforcement, you get the feeling they think we put locks on our doors to keep everybody out. The truth is we have locks so we can choose who comes in.

An example of what happens when we don’t make the choice took place August 4th when three Newark, New Jersey, college students with great promise were executed, gangland style. The killers’ ringleader was apparently an illegal alien indicted twice in 2007 for felonies, including the rape of a kindergarten-aged girl.

Why would such a person be set free instead of being handed over to authorities for deportation? The answer is that Newark is a “sanctuary city” which bans cooperation between local officials and federal immigration officials. More than 60 sanctuary zones, including 30 of America’s largest cities, provide a national networked haven for foreign and organized criminals who recruit and operate outside those areas as well. These sanctuaries include Cambridge, Massachusetts; Los Angeles, California; Detroit, Michigan; Chicago, Illinois; Austin and Houston, Texas; Denver, Colorado; and New York City.

The consequences of “sanctuary cities” may be most obvious in the city that became the first in 1979 — Los Angeles. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, a confidential California Department of Justice study from the mid-1990’s showed then that at least 60 percent of the members of L.A.’s most violent gangs, with membership in the tens of thousands, were illegal aliens. Of all outstanding murder warrants in Los Angeles, 95 percent are for illegal aliens. Frustrated police say they are powerless to pick up even well-known, previously deported felons.

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Awesome, FRED!
1 posted on 08/13/2007 3:25:15 PM PDT by SE Mom
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To: SE Mom

Hey now, don’t forget Seattle now... sanctuary city...

Sanctuary cities will no longer be receiving natural disaster aid... search for it here on FR...


2 posted on 08/13/2007 3:27:14 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: SE Mom
Of all outstanding murder warrants in Los Angeles, 95 percent are for illegal aliens.
3 posted on 08/13/2007 3:27:51 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Politicalmom; jellybean; Sturm Ruger; Petronski; prairiebreeze; xsmommy; Beelzebubba

FRED!


4 posted on 08/13/2007 3:29:44 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: SE Mom

Baltimore should not only be in that list, but on top.


5 posted on 08/13/2007 3:29:59 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Beckwith

RICO —Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.

Here’s what I’ve been pushing: it’s time to file Racketeering, Influencing, and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) lawsuits.

RICO lawyers could turn it around in a few years and MAKE MONEY at the same time. I’m surprised they haven’t done it already.

In the absence of enforcement, we can get the word out in the meantime that there is money to be made in filing RICO lawsuits against employers who hire illegal aliens like this scumbag.

Employers would have no trouble shutting down the border if they could get sued by someone under the RICO statutes for hiring these people in the first place. The next time an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving accident or somesuch thing, I’m going to point out that the victim’s family might be able to seek compensation from the employer under these statutes in the hopes that it would catch on. If this did catch on, would see such a swift backlash against illegal immigration that no employer would go near these people and they’ll all simply want to go back home.


6 posted on 08/13/2007 3:30:29 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: SE Mom

Fred to announce on Labor Day?

http://randyelrod.typepad.com/ethos/2007/08/fred-thompson-t.html


7 posted on 08/13/2007 3:31:52 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: SE Mom
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8 posted on 08/13/2007 3:33:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Don’t forget Minneapolis and St. Paul......


9 posted on 08/13/2007 3:34:15 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" since 11/20/06)
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To: SE Mom

Newark is a “santuary city” with three young (and black) college students murdered by corrupt democrat party policicians, from the pathetic excuse for a mayor on down.

They are just as guilty as the vermin they put on the streets who pulled the triggers.

If you are stupid enough to vote democrat, prepare to pay a horrific price.


10 posted on 08/13/2007 3:34:42 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: Kevmo

I do love your thinking on that and fervently hope that a peaceful solution could be brought about through the use of the courts. I’m just afraid it’s far too late for that. We have probably 20-30 million people here who have come from Third World oligarchies and dictatorships where problems and differences are solved by means of either violence or bribery. If actions which would be effective in getting them gone were to be undertaken, the violence would be widespread. Don’t get me wrong, though. It would be a necessary violence. Made “necessary” by the years of our so-called “leaders” allowing things to go on unchecked.


11 posted on 08/13/2007 3:39:57 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: SE Mom; Jim Robinson
Brilliant and to the point as always.
I’m dropping his campaign a note to see if he would like to do a live chat like Hunter did today.

I believe both of those men together on a ticket would change the country for the best.

12 posted on 08/13/2007 3:52:05 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: SE Mom
I am very impressed by the fact that Thompson comes out with weekly analyses of public issues that are spot on, and that are produced when the ink is still wet on the underlying stories in the media.

I intended to write my next column on this subject, and still will, since my take will be slightly different. And, I don't believe that Fred is sitting in front of his computer, reading the news and then researching his response. Staff folks do all that. But Fred must make the final decisions on what goes out and why, since for the nonce, these articles ARE his campaign.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Mark Twain Says Congress Is an Idiot"

13 posted on 08/13/2007 3:53:11 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: mnehrling

We’ll hear from Fred if he decides to do something like that:)


14 posted on 08/13/2007 3:58:42 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: Kevmo

Cracking down on employers would be good thing, but the subject of this article is really the number of violent criminals that are living here illegaly.

They don’t have law-abiding employers. They work for drug cartels, protection rackets, prostitution rings, car theft, gun dealing, etc. Criminal enterprises for whom lawsuits for assisting illegal immigration is the least of their worries. Of course, these are also the people most likely to “solve” their problem by killing off the people that filed the lawsuit or that would be witnesses in the lawsuit.

If employment in non-criminal industries (food service, construction, etc.) is closed to illegal aliens, there is a real danger that they will simply move into the criminal industries rather than self-deport as we’d wish.

So as attractive as the civil lawsuit approach is, we need the LEO crackdown as well. We need an effective fence, cops willing to get these people off the streets, heavily armed anti-gang units for the violent criminals, an ICE willing to deport them if they are not imprisoned for violent crimes, and a border patrol that can keep them from returning.


15 posted on 08/13/2007 3:59:51 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: SE Mom

But...but...Fred is pro-illegal! And he’s lazy! < /JCecles >


16 posted on 08/13/2007 4:01:35 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: SE Mom

This deserves a flashing light on Drudge.


17 posted on 08/13/2007 4:02:28 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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18 posted on 08/13/2007 4:02:43 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: SE Mom

In a world that was not so far out of kilter a state or city government that refused to support the enforcement of federal law would lose all federal funding. The sanctuary thing just shows how very far we have wandered off the path that made the US the great nation it has been for 200 plus years.

Judging from the most recent polls it appears the vast majority, nearly 80 percent, of the America is ready to put things right by sealing our borders and sending the illegals back to where they came from. It might well be that we’ll end up with $11 per head lettuce and tomatoes that cost us $3 each, and we might even have to resort to mowing and edging our own lawns, but I bet I know how the families of at least three young people in NJ feel about it.

I know it’s racist, and therefore not acceptable, but I remember I a bumper sticker I saw years ago in Alabama that read “If I had known then what I know now I’d have picked my own cotton”. I think the next one is going to read “If I had known then what I know now I have mowed my own yard.”


19 posted on 08/13/2007 4:02:55 PM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: Kevmo

Makes too much sense, Kev.


20 posted on 08/13/2007 4:06:25 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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Fred bump!


21 posted on 08/13/2007 4:08:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DCPatriot

Are you being sarcastic? As I recall you don’t much care for Fred...


22 posted on 08/13/2007 4:09:18 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: SE Mom
Oh no...he's my favorite.

I was getting a little worried, but this essay means he's coming out swinging.

Very Reaganesque.

At a minimum, he would clean up the sanctuary city....gang/crime-wise. And the ones that are peaceful will be registered and documented as alien-residents...with hopefully assorted ways they could become citizens.

We get the best of both worlds.

23 posted on 08/13/2007 4:17:23 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: SE Mom
Frustrated police say they are powerless to pick up even well-known, previously deported felons.

I'm not buying this. Police seem to find a reason if they want to. This is a CYA statement, in my opinion.

24 posted on 08/13/2007 4:20:17 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Also Houston is big time. We just can’t seem to get mayors that aren’t special interests and in it for the money.


25 posted on 08/13/2007 4:21:27 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: SE Mom
Now, I am not suggesting that all illegal aliens are violent criminals. They are not. Most are peaceful folks just trying to get by like the rest of us.

Fred, they are NOT like the rest of us. We are NOT trying to "get by" by using the taxpayers of another country (to which we have no loyalty).

Your essay is needed and well done. But toward the end, it seemed as though you were trying to draw a line in the sand between peaceful illegals and those who are violent. Fred, they are ALL criminals, and they are ALL hurting us. Especially here in SoCal where you and I reside.

26 posted on 08/13/2007 4:22:27 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Dont forget New Haven Ct.


27 posted on 08/13/2007 4:23:08 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: DCPatriot
No person breaking into this nation deserves citizenship. If one came here illegally, that one must leave and if that one returns it can only be via legal channels. Amnesty given to an illegal is a violation of common sense. Rewarding a law breaker does not make the law breaker act legally. Remember Billy the Kid? Once illegal always illegal!
28 posted on 08/13/2007 4:24:59 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: freekitty

Houston was mentioned in the article.

Tsk...tsk...you didn’t read!

;-)


29 posted on 08/13/2007 4:26:56 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" since 11/20/06)
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To: SE Mom

Fred has made a real gaf in his posting. ALL illegal aliens
ARE criminals because they are here illegally and are committing further felonies in getting jobs and other services with felonious ID efforts/actions. SO FRED, get the real picture - ALL illegal aliens are felons, period.


30 posted on 08/13/2007 4:28:00 PM PDT by buffaloKiller ("No liberal is my brother, under the skin they are Orcs. Serving and doing evil endlessly.")
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To: no-to-illegals
Okay...that's for another thread or another time.

This is MY wish.

You get to see cities rejuvenate ala NYC under Rudy, and I get to see our economy not tank.

Cheers!

31 posted on 08/13/2007 4:28:05 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
LOL...you are some type of card....I suspect I know what kind of a card you are.....LOL....

You are fun, even if you do support, who you support....LOL
Have a Great Day......

32 posted on 08/13/2007 4:31:17 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: no-to-illegals
“No person breaking into this nation deserves citizenship.”

How can we hope to have cheap lettuce and thin the population of minority college students if we don’t have illegals here to blow their brains out in the middle of the night (see Jose’ Cazzana...murders of those three college students)? Moreover, who will rape our five year-old girls if we don’t have illegals here to do the raping Americans won’t do?

No, the prosperity of our economy requires that we push black aside for employment by letting illegals undercut wages and steal jobs from them. Heck, there are only a couple dozen American citizens being killed by illegals every day...so back off. Its more important to have cheap lettuce than to keep our kids safe in their own neighborhoods.

(Sarcasm pen rests...)

33 posted on 08/13/2007 4:40:40 PM PDT by RavenATB
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To: SE Mom
His essays are great, but, I'd really like to start hearing some POTUS type of solutions to go along with them.
America. Together. Again
Fred Thompson/JC Watts in '08

34 posted on 08/13/2007 4:40:40 PM PDT by papasmurf (<<<<< Click there to see my dogs! Oh, and I have FRed one liners, too.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Tsk Tsk to you. LOL

I read it. Just wanted to point out the sorry lot of mayors we have had.


35 posted on 08/13/2007 4:42:11 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Yaelle

Fred lives in VA.


36 posted on 08/13/2007 4:42:14 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: RavenATB
I have my agreement pen all ready!

Well Said!

37 posted on 08/13/2007 4:42:45 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: SE Mom

The man is correct, lets start enforcing the laws of the land already written.


38 posted on 08/13/2007 4:44:03 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (I'd rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: papasmurf

I expect after Fred announces, we will hear more solutions offered. Right now he’s letting us know what he thinks about what he sees:)


39 posted on 08/13/2007 4:44:31 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: no-to-illegals

Why just above, there’s posters spitting up! LOL!


40 posted on 08/13/2007 4:45:12 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: no-to-illegals

Why just above, there’s posters spitting up! LOL!


41 posted on 08/13/2007 4:45:28 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
I am going to be nice....
How about You?
42 posted on 08/13/2007 4:46:34 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: no-to-illegals
WAIT!!!

Are you suggesting a JOKER???

Was thinking more the King of Diamonds. ;^)

43 posted on 08/13/2007 4:47:26 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: SE Mom

IMHO, the families of those three kids, have a great civil rights lawsuit against Newark for the consequences of hosting ILLEGAL immigration...but what the hey..I’m not a lawyer!!!!


44 posted on 08/13/2007 4:48:02 PM PDT by mo
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To: no-to-illegals
I am going to be on my very best behavior...but you know sooner or later Mr. Gumby will show up.

It gets real hard then. ;^)

45 posted on 08/13/2007 4:49:02 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: freekitty

I’m curious about San Antonio. I haven’t heard what their policy is. SA recently hired a new chief of police that Minneapolis decided it didn’t want after just one three year term. Shortly after his departure, MPLS became a sanctuary city. I wonder if the chief’s views on the subject got him un-hired...???

(No, I can’t remember his name)


46 posted on 08/13/2007 4:49:26 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" since 11/20/06)
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To: DCPatriot

I was right you certainly are a card....LOL


47 posted on 08/13/2007 4:50:42 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: no-to-illegals

I don’t see that he has a solution. LA has 31 programs to deal with criminal gangs but none work. General Petraeus may be the only one with a realistic plan.


48 posted on 08/13/2007 5:04:51 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: bnelson44

I swear..I don’t think I can wait...but I’ve thought that for months!


49 posted on 08/13/2007 5:07:01 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Actually- it’s my impression from doing a bit of research that these are Fred’s ideas..and to date he does most of his own writing- though certainly with an able assist here and there.

I expect after he announces there will be staff who take more of that on..


50 posted on 08/13/2007 5:09:56 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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