Posted on 08/10/2007 1:04:26 PM PDT by Bokababe
Now that's a sophisticated argument.
Especially when one is trying to pimp the side who reintroduced concentration camps and their own brand of sonderkommando to Europe.
No? Oh well.
Is the Sisyphean nature of your self appointed task of attempting to change history and perception so completely removed from your grasp?
Of course it is.
Which is why you just keep trying.
Quite the opposite. Am acknowledging history and its direct connection to today -- and I am obviously not alone in seeing the linkages.
Hopeless "Hoplite" -- the champion of a Greek education that never quite "took" on him! LOL!
And you're quite adept at selecting only those linkages which will help you accomplish your task, while not recognizing or outright ignoring those linkages which render your task impossible.
It's an IQ test kind of thing.
“...not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier.”
Your Croat neo-Nazi buddy, "Waterlane" doesn't seem to be on the same page with you. And he says that he fought in the Balkan wars before moving to the US.
The world has changed much since the old boy’s time - I reckon Franz and Sophie’s fate pretty much put an end to serious consideration of his old saw.
In a chick logic meets Serb logic kind of way.
I guess.
Stating the truth about your beloved Jihadists is never an impossible task, pancakes, only teaching the truth to you kneepad types seems to be the challenging part.
First, how did "NAZISM" come about?
Let's revisit the 1800's, and, for the sake of argument, we need only start with Herbert Spencer (1852) who stated; " Survival of the fittest". I would note that this quote did not come from the later works of Charles Darwin and Alfred Wallace (1861).
Subsequent to these individuals works, there were movements to improve humankind. The most popular was referred to as the Eugenics movement.
In the latter 1800's, with the works of Sir Francis Galton, Alfred Binet, Karl Pearson et.al. there were the development of IQ tests which labled individuals (in modern terms) as e.g. Mentally Retarded and so on. This movement became popular to social scientists, not only in Europe, but also in the US to wit:
Eugenics and the United States, 1890s1945
"One of the earliest modern advocates of eugenic ideas (before they were labeled as such) was Alexander Graham Bell. In 1881 Bell investigated the rate of deafness on Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts. From this he concluded that deafness was hereditary in nature and recommended a marriage prohibition against the deaf ("Memoir upon the formation of a deaf variety of the human Race") even though he was married to a deaf woman. Like many other early eugenicists, he proposed controlling immigration for the purpose of eugenics and warned that boarding schools for the deaf could possibly be considered as breeding places of a deaf human race. In 1907, Indiana became the first of more than thirty states to adopt legislation aimed at compulsory sterilization of certain individuals.[14] Although the law was overturned by the Indiana Supreme Court in 1921,[15] the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of a Virginia Law allowing for the compulsory sterilization of patients of state mental institutions in 1927.[16] "We do not stand alone": Nazi poster from 1936 with flags of other countries with compulsory sterilization legislation.Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler was infamous for eugenics programs which attempted to maintain a "pure" German race through a series of programs that ran under the banner of "racial hygiene". Among other activities, the Nazis performed extensive experimentation on live human beings to test their genetic theories, ranging from simple measurement of physical characteristics to the horrific experiments carried out by Josef Mengele for Otmar von Verschuer on twins in the concentration camps. During the 1930s and 1940s, the Nazi regime forcibly sterilized hundreds of thousands of people whom they viewed as mentally and physically "unfit", an estimated 400,000 between 1934 and 1937. The scale of the Nazi program prompted American eugenics advocates to seek an expansion of their program, with one complaining that "the Germans are beating us at our own game".[Quoted in Selgelid, Michael J. 2000. Neugenics? Monash Bioethics Review 19 (4):9-33 ]"
The Eugenics movement - extending far beyond Nazi Germany - ended in 1945 in the aftermath of what the Nazi did. Thus, in any real terms, there's no real comparison between what the Nazi's did in the 1930's and 1940's to what happened during the Balkan Wars of the 1990's. The underlying motivation was completely different.
The Nazis took the Eugenics movement to the limit - and it ended in 1945.
This is where Hoplite is going wrong in his analogies i.e. comparing Nazi Germany to the Serbs (of course during the 1990's).
Actually, that’s merely a single example of where pancake boy has gone wrong.
It could days to list them all.
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