Posted on 08/06/2007 8:46:22 AM PDT by Pyro7480
A mine collapse in Emery County may have trapped six miners inside the Genwal Mine near Huntington Caynon. The Emery County Sheriff's Office says the six miners are unaccounted for and emergency workers are currently trying to free the miners.
County officials say they do not know what caused the cave in at the mine.
prayers up!!
Lord please keep these men safe and return them to their families!
damn.... well I was watching the Utah news around 5 am and it said there had been an earthquake in central Utah...... it was reported to be around 4.0 but I wonder if that shook things up too much underground, especially with mining tunnels etc.
A link on Drudge says that there was a quake in that area at about the same time.
“County officials say they do not know what caused the cave in at the mine.”
Don’t they consider the 4. earthquake that just took place may have had a part in the collapse?
I just saw the red square pop up on the earthquake page and wondered what consequences it would have.
Prayers for the miners and their families.
Miners Missing After Cave-In at Mine
August 6th, 2007 @ 9:30am(KSL News) Rescue crews are searching for six miners that are unaccounted for after the Genwal Mine caved in this morning.
The mine is in Huntington Canyon, southwest of Price.
Emery County Sheriff Lamar Guyman tells KSL Newsradio he's not sure how far into the mine the miners are, but it's at least 2,000 to 3,000 feet. The group is believed to be together in one area.
A 4.0 earthquake was reported earlier this morning with the epicenter in the same canyon as this mine.
At this point, we do not know if the earthquake caused the collapse or if the seismograph reading was from the collapse.
What sort of mine is this ?
4.0 might not feel like much on the surface but “surrounded” by vibrations...It’s gotta be like a brass band in a closet.
Haven’t seen for sure anywhere, but if it’s near Price, it’s probably coal.
Did the 4.0 earthquake have any role in this?
Yeah, i'll bet it would be time for a fresh pair of underwear, too.
Looked around on Google a bit and the Genwal Mine is coal. As near as I can find out it’s a non-union mine, which means that it will be blamed on Dubya and Orin Hatch. Hopefully the 6 miners will get out. If they weren’t killed outright they probably will. They are probably looking for a way out right now. Depends where they were and what size the area that they are trapped in is. A whole lot of ‘ifs’ at this point.
Don’t know but... FBI says no link to terrorism.
If things like loud noises bothered them they wouldn’t be miners.
Utah coal is some of the best in the world. Tough to get to, tho.
shaking ground and falling ceilings will bother anyone underground.
Sadly the FiBi’s rubber stamp that statement too often, too quick in other incidents.......
In the meantime, prayers for those trapped, their families, and those working to get them out.
Granted, that would bother most people. But the ground shakes and the roof falls occasionally in every underground coalmine. You either get used to it or get a job in a bank or something.
It's pretty low sulphur isn't it?
[FBI says no link to terrorism.]
Are you hinting they may be hiding a great conspiracy of A-Q killing our miners 6 at a time?
I’m sure Whorealdo is rushing to the scene.
Prayers for these miners and their loved ones.
” Can you provide examples of incidents where this occurred? “
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1877062/posts
Without looking too hard......
[Without looking too hard......]
I stand humbly corrected. Thanks. I hadn’t heard that.
Rescue teams are in the mine and made it to cross-cut #125 where there is significant pillar failure. They believe the miners are located in cross-cut #139 area. They have not made any contact with the trapped miners.
I didn’t say they were wrong I said they were too quick.........have a nice day.
6 Miners Trapped in Collapsed Utah Mine
August 6th, 2007 @ 12:50pmSam Penrod Reporting
Six miners are missing after mine collapse in Emery County. It happened in the Genwal mine west of Huntington. The miners have been trapped for about eight hours now.
At 2:48 a.m., a 4.0 magnitude earthquake hit in the same area, and then at 3:50 a.m., the report of the mine collapse came in. The University of Utah's Seismograph Stations said there was a clear link between the quake and the mine collapse, based on wave lengths. "The ground is collapsing or relaxing toward the source," director Walter Arabasz said. "The evidence we have at hand suggests that the seismic event was caused by some disturbance in the mine," he said. "We have to go back and look at more careful analysis to see if we can discriminate without ambivalence what the source is."
We do know some miners were able to get out, but at least six are still unaccounted for and presumed to be trapped inside of the mine.
This is a coal mine. Crews don't know if the miners were underneath the area where the mine collapsed or behind it. The miners were believed to be 1,500 feet below ground, about four miles from the mine entrance, said Dirk Fillpot, a spokesman at the Mine Safety and Health Administration in Washington, D.C. There has been no contact with them, he said.
Rescuers were within 2,500 feet of the miners, said Fillpot, who had no details on their conditions or the difficulty of the search.
We are told that this mine is not one where there are those dangerous mine gases, so of course, that's good news both for the miners and the rescuers who are going in.
We have been watching as miners have come to the area with maps, also some timber to shore up the mine and some coal mining equipment. Mine safety officials, ambulances, as well as other trained rescue teams are also on the scene.
Gov. Jon Huntsman broke away from a wildfire forum in Boise, Idaho, to return to Utah. "We're going to expend every resource we have and make every effort to make sure lives are put first and foremost," he said as he departed Boise.
The mine is in the Manti-La Sal National Forest, 140 miles south of Salt Lake City, in a sparsely populated area.
Emery County is Utah's No. 2 coal-producing county. In that same county, 27 people died in a fire in the Wilburg mine in December 1984.
"We aren't panicked yet," Linda Jewkes, president of the Emery County Chamber of Commerce, said after hearing the news. "We're very, very concerned and very cautious when it comes to the mines."
Utah ranked 12th in coal production in 2006. There were 13 underground coal mines in 2005, the most recent statistics available, according to the Utah Geological Survey.
The University of Utah's Seismograph Stations said there was a clear link between the quake and the mine collapse, based on wave lengths. "The ground is collapsing or relaxing toward the source," director Walter Arabasz said. "The evidence we have at hand suggests that the seismic event was caused by some disturbance in the mine,"
They think the earthquake was caused by something that happened in the mine???
Wow. Interesting cause and effect theory.
Has anyone in the media blamed this on the president yet?
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(”They think the earthquake was caused by something that happened in the mine???
Wow. Interesting cause and effect theory.”))
If they are using Long Walls this “could” be a cause. Room and Pillar mining wouldn’t have that affect. The seam they are mining probably ranges from 7 - 12 feet thick. If the top is not coming down behind the longwall and ends up coming down all at once, well, it takes your breath away and causes one to change his pants!
Mike
[I didn’t say they were wrong I said they were too quick.........have a nice day.]
I agree. The people demand and the gov’t provides instant analysis of all situations. The media especially drives the paranoia. All this long before any reasonable factual basis is provided. One thing sure, President Bush didn’t cause an earthquake. (I don’t think)
I just saw a video on the Alaska Earthquake in 1964. I am convinced it should be mandatory viewing by everyone in Louisiana. Then kick those lazy ba$t@rds off their sorry butts and make them work to rebuild.
with global warming working so well with oil companies... suggesting that mining will cause earthquakes is a logical step...
another nail in the coffin of a u.s. energy independence plan...
teeman
Ping
The current new reports indicate there was never an earthquake, but the mine collapse generated seismic waves similar to a small earthquake. The earlier reports of an earthquake appear to have been false.
“Has anyone in the media blamed this on the president yet?”
Give them time. They will. HuffPo is already blaming Bush and accusing him of murdering the miners.
A mine collapse that registered as a 4.0 magnitude earthquake would be an indication of a quite serious event, correct?
It's coming...just like the I-35W bridge. It was less than 24 hours before some lib was popping off with the Bush's fault crap.
Any word?
Off the top of my head (from early morning news reports) the longwall is over 600 foot long by 9 high.
If it bounced, it’s very possible the sensors detected it and there was no earthquake. The U of Utah seismo group is comparing the wave charts to other known mine bounces. It may be possible there was a quake, or it may be that the miners weren’t missed until an hour after the bounce... hence the hour difference between the seismic reads and the call for rescue. Dunno. I think the seam they’re working is sandwiched between sandstone layers, not good pressure wise.
Prayers for these men to be rescued, and for their families.
Here was the New York Slime`s take on the Sago tradgedy. Both liknks are intersting;
“Political figures from both parties have long defended and profited from ties to the coal industry. Whether or not that was a factor in the Sago mine’s history, the Bush administration’s cramming of important posts in the Department of the Interior with biased operatives from the coal, oil and gas industry is not reassuring about general safety in the mines. Steven Griles, a mining lobbyist before being appointed deputy secretary of the interior, devoted four years to rolling back mine regulations and then went back to lobbying for the industry.”
http://www.bizzyblog.com/?p=1190
http://www.bizzyblog.com/?p=1193
It would be about as fair of us the Clain that the New York Times planted a bomb in the mine, as it would be for them to blame this on Bush.
J—— H. C——t, is there no common human decency at the Times?
What a low life cult they running over there...
Sorry about that.
It would be about as fair of us to Claim that the New York Times planted a bomb in the mine, as it would be for them to blame this on Bush.
J—— H. C——t, is there no common human decency at the Times?
What a low life cult they running over there...
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