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(California) Residents Are 'Green' Hypocrites, Poll Finds
Contra Costa Times ^ | 07/29/2007 | Steve Geissinger

Posted on 07/29/2007 5:22:43 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

Residents are 'green' hypocrites, poll finds

Californians want immediate governmental action, but are unwilling to make personal sacrifices

By Steve Geissinger

MEDIANEWS SACRAMENTO BUREAU

Contra Costa Times

SACRAMENTO -- Many Californians' alarmed talk about global warming amounts to a lot of hot air. Experts say residents are growing more opinionated on the issue -- and hypocritical.

A survey by the Public Policy Institute of California shows most residents think dirty air from cars is helping foster disasters such as drought and hurting their health through ailments such as asthma.

They want immediate action from government officials and presidential candidates with strong environmental protection stands. They support current attempts to lower greenhouse-gas emissions from autos.

"For the first time, a majority of Californians say global warming poses a very serious threat to the state's future economy and quality of life," said institute President Mark Baldassare.

The 54 percent who hold that view mark a 5-point increase since last July and a 15-point increase since July 2005.

"More Californians are associating global warming with a greater variety of environmental threats. It's not just air pollution. It's concern over increased droughts and flooding," Baldassare said.

But the poll released last week also found two-thirds of workers put up with pain at the gasoline pump so they can drive solo to jobs -- a fourth in SUVs.

Just 13 percent carpool and 7 percent use public transit.

"You have to wonder about the gap between behavior and opinions," said Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College.

The survey also indicated 70 percent of Californians are ready to buy more fuel-efficient cars, despite the extra cost.

But analysts say, in another case of saying one thing and doing another, it may be that few of them will ever actually pay to back up their comments.

"It's easy to tell a pollster you're willing to sacrifice for a cleaner environment," Pitney said. "But it's harder to do it."

Some of the building concern can be attributed to politicians' rhetoric, said David McCuan, a political science professor at Sonoma State University.

"But in reality, Californians' real challenges are local -- housing, education, roads and a fair wage from a steady job," McCuan said.

Experts also say people voice opinions contrary to their actions in hopes that the collective momentum will force the hard choices on them that they can't make by themselves.

"We buy gas guzzlers but vote for gas sipping," says columnist James Surowiecki in the current New Yorker magazine. "Our desires as individuals to protect ourselves in large cars and to outclass our neighbors encourage us to buy bigger and bigger vehicles with more and more horsepower."

"In calling for laws requiring better gas mileage in our cars, voters are really saying that they're unhappy with the collective result of the choices they make as buyers," he says. "Sometimes, they know, we need to save ourselves from ourselves."

Residents truly embracing the fight against global warming "need to connect the environmental dots," Pitney said.

"Over the long run, high gasoline prices are the most efficient way to encourage conservation," he said. "Yet I've never seen any Californians cheering when the pump price goes up."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agw; algoresreligion; carbonoffsets; climatechange; cultofgaia; ecosexuals; environment; globalwarming; greens; hypocrisy; junkscience; leftcoast; liberalism; sanfranciscovalues
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I am embarassed to say that I am a native Californian. California was once a great state...remember, it used to be called "Reagan Country?"

Anyways...for the record I am NOT one of those hypocrites.

I own a Hummer H2 and I don't beleive any of the gloom and doom by tree hugging gurus like Al Gore. Al Gore and his minions merely use "global warming" fears to grab more government power.

World climate is in a constant state of flux. Temperatures rise and dip on cycles. After all, wasn't it "global warming" that thawed out the planet some 10,000 years ago to end the Ice Age? I don't think there were any SUV drivers back then.

So this poll finds that many Californian are hypocrites. Not much new here. They must have focused their poll sampling in Hollywood and San Francisco...

1 posted on 07/29/2007 5:22:46 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER
(California) Residents Are 'Green' Hypocrites, Poll Finds

Of course they are. They're liberals.

2 posted on 07/29/2007 5:26:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: DogByte6RER
Just 13 percent carpool and 7 percent use public transit.

"You have to wonder about the gap between behavior and opinions," said Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College.

Carpooling would be wonerful, if I had someone to car pool with. Public transit would be wonderful if we had some that was reliable. I have several times been called upon to bail out friends when the bus doesn't come. Turns out the union has a clause that drivers who are sick do not need to call in and tell anyone, so of course no bus runs if they take a day off.

3 posted on 07/29/2007 5:26:52 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: DogByte6RER
It's not just air pollution. It's concern over increased droughts and flooding,"

My favorite both sides of the argument covered expression.

4 posted on 07/29/2007 5:27:18 PM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: Lancey Howard
"They" are the NEW Californians.

The old Californians were invaded by all of the fruits and nuts from all of the other states. WE are all huddling in the center of the state trying to overcome THEIR invasion.


5 posted on 07/29/2007 5:29:19 PM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: DogByte6RER

And we are supposed to be surprised by the study??


6 posted on 07/29/2007 5:29:21 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: DogByte6RER
"Over the long run, high gasoline prices are the most efficient way to encourage conservation," he said. "Yet I've never seen any Californians cheering when the pump price goes up."

Gotta agree with him there....but it isn't just Californians who fail to cheer.
7 posted on 07/29/2007 5:38:28 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: DogByte6RER

"Green on the Outside
RED on the Inside..."

8 posted on 07/29/2007 5:41:43 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: DogByte6RER
Its like the rest of liberalism... voters like it... as long as they aren't forced to pay for it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 07/29/2007 5:41:59 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DogByte6RER
"Sometimes, they know, we need to save ourselves from ourselves."

Or sometimes, they're just idiots.

10 posted on 07/29/2007 5:44:55 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: DogByte6RER
Just 13 percent carpool and 7 percent use public transit.

The carpool statistics include children who are dropped off at school. I am not kidding you. In California they include driving your kids to school to inflate the carpool numbers.

11 posted on 07/29/2007 5:46:53 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: DogByte6RER
Californian born and raised since 1955. I drive a motorhome (1973 Winnebago) and am seriously concerned that these idiots are going to decide I have too large a carbon footprint and take it away from me. It’s only my home.
12 posted on 07/29/2007 5:46:55 PM PDT by Excellence (Three million years is enough! Stop cyclical climate change now!)
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To: DogByte6RER
Californians will lead the way to a greater Global Warming Industry. This industry will be governmental and bureaucratic. Some way will be found to tax all citizens. Just look at what was done to the tobacco industry.
13 posted on 07/29/2007 5:47:16 PM PDT by Blake#1
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To: Dianna
Every one wants someone else to foot the bill. The problem is with the exception of smokers and drinkers, there aren't that many people on whom the politicians can raise taxes.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 07/29/2007 5:47:42 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DogByte6RER

ahem...

but are you married?

LOL!!

/j/k


15 posted on 07/29/2007 5:49:46 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (PROTECTING AMERICA! the job American politicians WILL NOT DO!)
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To: DogByte6RER
(California) Residents Are 'Green' Hypocrites, Poll Finds

They needed a poll to find this out?

My colleagues at UCLA didn't know what to make of me.
Not because I was a Republican/conservative.
But because I actually rode the bus to/from work.

And I always loved the TV news reports whenever gasoline prices
went up a bit.
They'd always find some West LA millionairess filling up her
Range Rover complaining about how "the public transportation
system in LA really needs to be fixed".
(of course the unspoken subtext was "So that there'll be more
room on the freeway for my Range Rover!")
16 posted on 07/29/2007 5:49:57 PM PDT by VOA
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To: goldstategop

Aw come on now. There’s lots of untapped tax sources. Hunters, fishermen, fast food, carbonated soft drinks, energy taxes, snack chips, coffee, walmart, marijuana(legalized), bullets, guns, carbon taxes, gas guzzler taxes...and I’m not even trying.


17 posted on 07/29/2007 5:54:02 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: DogByte6RER
“Californians want immediate governmental action, but are unwilling to make personal sacrifices”

Kalifornia liberals hypocrites??

Surely you jest.

18 posted on 07/29/2007 5:55:10 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: DogByte6RER

This is why I’m in favor of Schwarzenegger’s plan to stop global warming. Let the Californians have what they want, and make them wish they had not.


19 posted on 07/29/2007 5:57:37 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: VOA

That’s hilarious. I bet none of the Hollywood divas nor the Berkeley sandal-wearers want to ride the bus. They only want us to ride the bus.


20 posted on 07/29/2007 5:59:03 PM PDT by Sender (Be subtle! Be subtle! And use your squirrels for every kind of business.)
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To: DogByte6RER

This is not limited to Kalif. Here in Utah I once unscientifically polled a bunch of people I know and found out that not one liberal rides in a car pool. I could only find three people besides myself who car pool or van pool. None were liberals.


21 posted on 07/29/2007 6:05:50 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: Seruzawa

I vanpool to work M-F.

It’s about an hour commute to San Diego, so we rotate drivers and I get in some sleep time.

Even though I own a gus guzzling SUV, I typically use it on weekends.

My fellow vanpoolers seem to be pretty fond of the Michael Savage Show in the afternoon...


22 posted on 07/29/2007 6:12:48 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: All

Green Hypocrites = Ecosexuals

Read:

“Green Dating – Are You An Ecosexual?”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1865766/posts


23 posted on 07/29/2007 6:16:09 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

No surprises here! Remember uncle Teddy and the windmill farm?


24 posted on 07/29/2007 6:16:34 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: bannie
IIRC my cousins from California were very proud of the fact that they were the trend-setters in EnvironMENTALism and Liberalism. That was the 70's. They are not so proud anymore. California is one of the most beautiful states in the country, but it's moonbats and illegals will kill it.
25 posted on 07/29/2007 6:24:02 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress

I’m a 3rd generation Cali...and we’ve been po’d at ‘em since before my mamma and daddy taught me to talk (That’s a few generations ago!).


26 posted on 07/29/2007 6:33:11 PM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: DogByte6RER; SierraWasp

Hey Walt, check out what the “ commissioned type” study (polls) found out!


27 posted on 07/29/2007 6:44:17 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Duncan Hunter for president!)
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To: DogByte6RER

My husband and I don’t say that cars are the cause of global warming, but we actually do drive a Prius.

We also recycle, and use flourescent lights.

My husband would prefer to not use the A/C, but I have severe allergies and just get too stopped up with fans and windows open.


28 posted on 07/29/2007 6:46:41 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: DogByte6RER

Liberals never live by their own rules.


29 posted on 07/29/2007 6:48:55 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: DogByte6RER

Liberals don’t want for THEMSELVES to get out of those gas guzzlers. They want YOU to get out of those gas guzzlers so YOU can ease freeway congestion and reduce smog, etc. Liberals think they are the elites and DESERVE to live large. It is YOU, the great unwashed, that needs to sacrifice.

And, while you are sacrificing, keep voting in more liberals so they can find more ways to make YOU (not them) sacrifice.

Californians get the government they deserve. Morons.


30 posted on 07/29/2007 6:55:37 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Global warming? Hell, in Texas, we just call that "summer".)
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To: Lancey Howard
No surprise. Heard tell that Marin County (greenest of the green & Pelosi/Boxer/Feinstein home turf) accounts for a huge share of CA Hummer sales...
31 posted on 07/29/2007 7:04:11 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: bannie
The old Californians were invaded by all of the fruits and nuts from all of the other states.

Gotcha there! It's a shame, isn't it? There are some of us here huddling on the coast, too.

I love California. I love the Valley (San Joaquin), I love the coast, and I love L.A. (an acquired taste) from the bottom of my heart. I am so blessed to be here and have been grateful for the treat from as far back as I can remember. I don't love the fact that too many people here who have no business voting, vote for idiots. I'm glad there are still folks with connections to the Original California, settled by people with guts and very adventurous spirits. And you know ... they're still coming here. That's a good thing. As long as they're legal, of course! ;^)

32 posted on 07/29/2007 7:16:20 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: xcamel; DaveLoneRanger; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

GW Ping!


33 posted on 07/29/2007 7:23:33 PM PDT by Thunder90
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I was born in Calif as was my wife.
I have what the invasion destroy my once beautiful state.
I live in Capo Beach and watched San Juan Capostrano grow from 3200 to 32000 in just 4 years.
All the open spaces that as a kid we rode bikes and chased snakes are now houses.
I pity the kids today as they lost so much freedom to explore that we had.
34 posted on 07/29/2007 7:29:33 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: DogByte6RER
A survey presently underway at the UK newspaper The Telegraph:

E-POLL
Should the government do more to tackle climate change?

Yes - (36%)
No - (64%)

35 posted on 07/29/2007 7:29:44 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: DogByte6RER

liberals truly want to sacrefice.

Only thing is they want to sacriface THEIR neighbors necessities for their luxuries.

Just ask Al Gore and his friend, Laurie David


36 posted on 07/29/2007 8:27:25 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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(California) Residents Are 'Green' Hypocrites

I read 40 years ago about a huge feel-good crowd of hundreds assembled in a rural area near Los Angeles to bury the evil automobile. Not symbolic, literally. Lots of feel-good press coverage. Lots of chests swelling with pride and accomplishment.

Hundreds of private automobiles parked every which way along the country road, in the fields, everywhere. It took a call to the sheriffs department and deputies hours to get it all sorted out and the do-gooders on their way home to celebrate how "we care and you don't."

It's what they do.

37 posted on 07/29/2007 9:00:12 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: DogByte6RER
Californians have ALWAYS been hypocrites, even when they elected guys like Reagan to Sacramento. They LOVED voting in free college tuition and the strictest environmental laws in the country, while at the same time putting a cap on property taxes to actually pay for it.

Never has really been a "conservative" state, and has been filled with hippie-critical NIMBYs since at least the 1950s.

38 posted on 07/29/2007 9:02:13 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: DogByte6RER

Green Hypocrites is redundant.


39 posted on 07/29/2007 9:05:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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Today on Barbara Simpson's KSFO show Senator Tom McClintock was a guest. The Senator is perhaps the most knowledgeable person in California on state government spending and the budget.

Some of Gov. Schwarzennegger's "global warming" measures put severe resitrictions on concrete -- it's the first I heard of this but apparently concrete produces gobs of CO2. One Internet source says, "Concrete is thought to be responsible for around 10% of global CO2 emissions."

(Robert Kennedy is known to be a key adivsor for Mr. and Mrs. Schwarzenkennedy.)

Fine. But at the same time Gov. Schwarzennegger and California have put in place ambitious plans for the construction of all kinds of stuff that require concrete.

It's what they do.

40 posted on 07/29/2007 9:18:37 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: dfwgator

bttt


41 posted on 07/29/2007 9:19:36 PM PDT by battleax
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To: DogByte6RER

Really? I am shocked! Most liberals are their slogan should read do as I say not as I do because I know more than you.


42 posted on 07/29/2007 9:25:11 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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To: DogByte6RER
[Experts also say people voice opinions contrary to their actions in hopes that the collective momentum will force the hard choices on them that they can’t make by themselves.
“We buy gas guzzlers but vote for gas sipping,” says columnist James Surowiecki in the current New Yorker magazine. “Our desires as individuals to protect ourselves in large cars and to outclass our neighbors encourage us to buy bigger and bigger vehicles with more and more horsepower.”
“In calling for laws requiring better gas mileage in our cars, voters are really saying that they’re unhappy with the collective result of the choices they make as buyers,” he says. “Sometimes, they know, we need to save ourselves from ourselves.”]

I see how this works; stupid people who are incapable of making decisions for themselves empower greedy jerks in government to tell them what to do for their own good. Capable and self reliant citizens who might make different decisions in their lives are then forced to follow the same rules as the idiots.

43 posted on 07/29/2007 9:27:05 PM PDT by spinestein (The answer is 42.)
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To: Clemenza
Californians have ALWAYS been hypocrites


44 posted on 07/29/2007 9:34:12 PM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: w1andsodidwe
"Just 13 percent carpool and 7 percent use public transit."

I call BS. I don't know anyone who carpools, and even so no way it's twice as many who use public transportation. Unless you live and work downtown somewhere it just is not practical. Park&rides are popular, but you have to DRIVE to them first.

45 posted on 07/29/2007 10:05:25 PM PDT by boop (Trunk Monkey. Is there anything he can't do?)
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To: ontap
Remember uncle Teddy and the windmill farm?

I have to be a bit thankful to His Soberness for opposing windmills...because Texas was awarded the program to try and build the really big wind turbines...with 300 foot blades! The other state left in the running was Massachusetts. :)
46 posted on 07/30/2007 6:08:31 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: DogByte6RER

I find this story shocking. \grin


47 posted on 07/30/2007 6:16:51 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Excellence
Your concern is legitimate. Liberal acquaintances started beating the drum against large motorhomes years ago. Right after they sold their rv so they could look less hypocritical. Of course they don't mind jumping on a plane and traveling to Europe. The plane was going anyway (haha).
48 posted on 07/30/2007 6:25:15 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Clemenza
Californians have ALWAYS been hypocrites ... Never has really been a "conservative" state, and has been filled with hippie-critical NIMBYs since at least the 1950s.

So, are YOU gonna be the one to tell Jim Robinson that? What are you doing on California-born-and-raised Free Republic? I love having people from New Jersey telling us third, fourth, and fifth-generation native Californians what we're about. When my husband and I were in your neck of the woods during a Florida-to-Boston road trip, we didn't dare drive across your tiny little communist-MAFIA state for fear of being stopped by cops who would confiscate our legal firearms.

You deserve a kick square in the ass, pal.

49 posted on 07/30/2007 6:49:58 AM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: DogByte6RER
"More Californians are associating global warming with a greater variety of environmental threats. It's not just air pollution. It's concern over increased droughts and flooding," Baldassare said.

Global warming in a nutshell - it's oxymoronic.

50 posted on 07/30/2007 6:52:30 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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