Posted on 07/29/2007 3:46:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I have said before that Hillary will pick Gov. Bill Richardson because she can control him and he will bring the Latino vote. And after eight years of Hillary there will be enough Latinos here to elect him. It’s the future.
I agree. You’ve spelled it out very accurately.
The White Guilters will prove their love of deversity by voting for this ticket.
Let’s all hope that this really isn’t the future! Completely turning the entire U.S. into a socialistic country will only create a finite “mess” for the long-term!
The saying goes that politics makes strange bedfellows...but the mental picture of Hillery with Obama in this mode is horrifying.
Clinton-Obama is a done deal.
Did Kennedy love Johnson?
Yes.
She can’t choose Bill Clinton. His is ineligible to become president in the event she passes away or is removed from office. This is defined in Amendment 12 at the bottom.
Why?
He's 35 years old, he was born in Arkansas, and he's resided in the US for the past 14 years. On what basis do you call him ineligible to serve?
He's ineligible to be elected, but that's a limitation on what the electors may do, not on the individual.
Do you contend that, if Bill Clinton or George W. Bush were Speaker of the House, and the Presidency were to devolve upon that officer, that they could not serve?
Of course they could, and, likewise, they could serve if the office fell upon the serving Vice-President.
I know that sounds horrid but I am curious?
1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more that two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once.It would clearly violate the spirit of the Twenty Second Amendment, but it would IMHO unfortunately not violate the letter of it. And as to the president and vice president coming from the same state, that derives from the Twelfth Amendment's disincentive which says that no elector in the electoral college can vote for two candidates of POTUS/VPOTUS from his own state. But Dick Cheney showed how easy that would be to sidestep - he just registered to vote in WY where he had a summer home, and viola! Instant non-Texan.2. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the Legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
And it definitely appeared in 2000 that Bill could have won a third term had he been allowed by the Constitution.
However, I don't think it would work for the practical reason that it would explicitly make Bill's maladministration fair game - and the economic performance of the GW Bush Administration will so readily bear comparison with the "wonderful" Clinton Administration that I question whether Bill would not sink the ticket rather than lifting it over the top. Finally, there are all those last-minute pardons (which would not have been done by someone who planned ever to run for reelection) to defend . . .
Hillary would never pick Obama. She would never be able to control him. Think about it. :)
You, sir, are correct.
It would have been quite simple for the drafters of XXII to amend Article II by adding prior service to young age, overseas birth, or foreign residency to the Constitutional grounds for ineligibility to serve - but they didn't.
I agree. While her preference is for Bill Richardson, she will leap to put Obama on for his appeal, and then “kneecap” him after the election. The only question is whether he understands that he will be a zero for eight years and that there is no guarantee at the end that he would be elected.
[So Much for the Clinton-Obama Ticket]
I, respectfully, have to disagree with that statement. The democrat party, the media and the clinton’s have spent way too time and effort promoting obama and giving him the necessary creditials to be considered a candidate, to change their plans now.
This little ‘dust up’ would have had to be part of their plans to give hillary the necessary ‘opponent’ in her campaign. Hillary and obama have already sucked up all the money and oxygen from any other candidate, the rest are just window dressing.
The democrat/clinton/msm party are going for the whole ball of wax and are going to leave nothing to chance, it is their desire to decimate and, for decades to come, eliminate any chance the Republican Party will ever be viable again.
I'm not sure how "safe" Hillary would be with a muslim second-in-command. That's a whole other chilling thought.
Another good reason.
Or taking out the other candidates.
Goombama?
He's 35 years old, he was born in Arkansas, and he's resided in the US for the past 14 years. On what basis do you call him ineligible to serve?
He's ineligible to be elected, but that's a limitation on what the electors may do, not on the individual.
Do you contend that, if Bill Clinton or George W. Bush were Speaker of the House, and the Presidency were to devolve upon that officer, that they could not serve?
Of course they could, and, likewise, they could serve if the office fell upon the serving Vice-President.
Read the twelfth amendment. It rather explicitly prohibits anyone constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of President from being eligible for the Vice Presidency either. The twenty second amendment prohibits Clinton from becoming President again, kicking in the provisions of the twelfth. According to your reasoning anyone holding an office in the line of succession to the Presidency would automatically become President if the people other above in the order aren't available. The order is the Vice President, Speaker of the House, President Pro Tempore of the Senate, then members of the cabinet in order of the founding of their departments. Since the Department of State was the first department founded, the Secretary of State is the first cabinet member in line. In my lifetime, there have been two secretaries of state ineligible to become President due to foreign birth, Henry Kissenger and Madelein Albright. If it were necessary to go down the order of succession, they would have been passed over, and the Secretary of the Treasury would have been the next in line. Even if Bill Clinton managed to get appointed to a future administration's cabinet, he still would not be in line of succession to become President.
Amendment 12.....................
The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
But it would explicity violate the twelfth amendment. Read my comments in post #38.
But it would explicity violate the letter of the twelfth amendment. Read my comments in post #38.
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