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At Least 2 Dead After Two TV News Choppers Collide, Crash While Covering Car Chase in Phoenix
Fox News ^ | Friday July 27, 2007 | Milwaukee_Guy

Posted on 07/27/2007 1:17:37 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy

Phoenix — Two helicopters collided in midair and crashed while covering a police pursuit in central Phoenix Friday afternoon, killing at least two people. Both helicopters were news choppers from local television stations.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: carchase; christopherjones; crash; donutwatch; helicopter; policechase; tvchase
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To: hunter112
It was only a matter of time. I’m surprised it didn’t happen during the “Paris Hilton Goes Back to Jail” coverage.

....or when Michael Jackson was released. The skies looked like a swarm of big hornets had invaded the area.

Ok....I may be the first here....this is Bush's fault.

151 posted on 07/27/2007 5:28:49 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Countdown: a documentary on Keith Olberman's dwindling IQ)
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To: nicmarlo

If a cop/whoever gets killed “as a result of his actions”,,,
I think that’s how they will apply the law,,,

Grace Of GOD those choppers didn’t come down on a school/?
They need an air-borne-air-controller at this rate...
Like the air-tankers over a fire...
If watchin’ a car chase is worth all that...


152 posted on 07/27/2007 5:29:59 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Revel

Blaming the perp is quite a stretch in this particular circumstance IMHO.


153 posted on 07/27/2007 5:30:23 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; Wright is right!; ..
pinging Aeronaut's aviation ping list

'Twas only a matter of time, but I always expected this sort of tragedy to go down first in L.A.

154 posted on 07/27/2007 5:32:26 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (()
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To: nicmarlo

pass...


155 posted on 07/27/2007 5:32:46 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: All

video links to the crash. Interesting watching the media covering themselves,

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QL7U2G0&show_article=1&image=large

• Moments After Crash Distraught Fox Pilot Describes Witnessing Impact
07-27-2007 6:50 pm

• KPHO Helicopter Pans to Crash Moments After Collision
07-27-2007 6:18 pm

• News Helicopter Live Reaction Seconds After Two Others Collide
07-27-2007 5:23 pm

• Final Moments Live as the News Helicopters Collide (Warning - Disturbing)
07-27-2007 4:53 pm

• Two News Helicopters Collide While Covering Car Chase
07-27-2007 4:13 pm


156 posted on 07/27/2007 5:32:57 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: donna
When news choppers collide....If it bleeds it leads, baby!


157 posted on 07/27/2007 5:36:20 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
If watchin’ a car chase is worth all that...

It's not, as I'm sure you agree. And I resent the fact that they will spend hours upon hours chasing after cops who are chasing after criminals, and neglect reporting actual news!

/rant

158 posted on 07/27/2007 5:36:29 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

chicken.


159 posted on 07/27/2007 5:36:58 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: All
Every year the EAA has numerous incidents. We average almost one fatality a year. Here’s the latest incident in Oshkosh WI.

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=7/27/2007&id=27039

Pilot killed during two-plane EAA crash

Oshkosh - Two planes collided while landing today, killing at least one person at an experimental aviation show, the Federal Aviation Administration said.

The FAA said the accident with the two P-51 Mustangs happened at 3:17 p.m. after the planes finished a performance at the Experimental Aircraft Association’s annual AirVenture show.

160 posted on 07/27/2007 5:38:53 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

(sigh) Professionalism first! Are they giving pilot’s licenses to yahoos now?


161 posted on 07/27/2007 5:39:09 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: raccoonradio
On October 22, 1986, at 4:44 PM, while (Jane) Dornacker was giving one of (WNBC-AM)'s N-Copter traffic reports, the helicopter from which she was reporting plunged into the Hudson River from an altitude of roughly 75 feet.

i remember when this happened... Jane Dornacker used to do traffic reporting in the San Francisco Bay Area for KFRC's Dr. Don Rose segment... they were always being funny... she moved to NY... she was also an aspiring actress... she had been in a previous helicopter crash, where she and the pilot hit the water and survived... they were able to swim away from the wreckage... so when it was happening again, she told the pilot to hit the water... the second time they did not survive... it made the news here because of her earlier work on KFRC... this was very sad...

162 posted on 07/27/2007 5:41:13 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: JillValentine
If that were two storm chasers causing a fatal accident, the news media would go ballistic.

Let’s see how they dole out blame for an incident of their own making.

163 posted on 07/27/2007 5:42:18 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: surely_you_jest

why on earth do so many freepers use otherwise tragic events to be dickheads?

pray tell..


164 posted on 07/27/2007 5:42:36 PM PDT by wardaddy (chicks and small kids rule me)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
The perps should be charged with murder for the deaths of these pilots.

that is unusual logic

165 posted on 07/27/2007 5:44:24 PM PDT by wardaddy (chicks and small kids rule me)
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To: modest proposal

Whole dang sky? It’s not quite as simple as that when one is maneuvering, especially in an urban area.

Still, this wasn’t an essential function, it was a silly car chase, and the pilots didn’t have to do what they did. They put sensationalism over professionalism, and a tragedy was the result.


166 posted on 07/27/2007 5:45:22 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: wardaddy

A few here haven’t a clue. I wouldn’t pay them much attention.


167 posted on 07/27/2007 5:45:23 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: nicmarlo

It’s not, as I’m sure you agree. And I resent the fact that they will spend hours upon hours chasing after cops who are chasing after criminals, and neglect reporting actual news!

/rant
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Not Rant,,,Fact,,,

Is it gunna change ?,,,Not a chance...


168 posted on 07/27/2007 5:45:55 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: All

Live video from the Channel 15 chopper as it went down.

Disturbing......

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=3645


169 posted on 07/27/2007 5:46:40 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: dragnet2

no kidding..


170 posted on 07/27/2007 5:48:01 PM PDT by wardaddy (chicks and small kids rule me)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

No, it likely won’t change. But this is ridiculous to put lives at risk over, not only the crew, but, as you mentioned, it could have also caused deaths of school children, if the location had been elsewhere when they crashed.

I don’t think it’s worth people dying over car chases.

Very sad.


171 posted on 07/27/2007 5:48:15 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
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172 posted on 07/27/2007 5:49:41 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
LOL!!
173 posted on 07/27/2007 5:51:40 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: All
AP/La Voz-The Arizona Republic, AJ Alexander -------------------------------- Could be this year's Pulitzer Prize photo. Did an amateur take this?
174 posted on 07/27/2007 5:54:24 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

TANKS M_GUY,,,Prayers Up...


175 posted on 07/27/2007 5:55:38 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Godspeed!


176 posted on 07/27/2007 5:56:16 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: nicmarlo

LOL;0)


177 posted on 07/27/2007 5:57:34 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: All
Police and firefighters stand near the site of a helicopter crash in Indian Steele Park.
178 posted on 07/27/2007 5:59:03 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

What an awful day for their families and friends.

That was a disturbing video.


179 posted on 07/27/2007 6:00:32 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: JennysCool

I doubt they would zoom in that much on any station. I recall watching stuff like this, and very rarely do stations zoom in enough to where you can see anybody.

For example, last year or so there was some incident in Colorado with a guy who was shot by cops on a freeway during a chase. The news didn’t zoom in very much...you saw the guy fall kind of, but that was about it....very distant.

Just like this coverage. I saw one shot that was quite close...50 feet or so away on the ground...but the rest has been far away.


180 posted on 07/27/2007 6:00:56 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Dick Cheney should have gone hunting with Hillary." -- Yakov Smirnoff)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

One day....have you heard of pay backs????? : )


181 posted on 07/27/2007 6:01:24 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

With ice cream on top ?...;0)


182 posted on 07/27/2007 6:03:57 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

lolol!

“It’s” going to be a double now. : )


183 posted on 07/27/2007 6:04:41 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: donna
These are nice people who do traffic and monsoon reporting everyday. This is a tragedy.

I agree, Donna. Very sad.

184 posted on 07/27/2007 6:05:33 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: KevinB

I don’t know. Time will tell.


185 posted on 07/27/2007 6:08:49 PM PDT by dbacks (I forgot to pay the rent on my tagline.)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

I saw this on an old Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle once.


186 posted on 07/27/2007 6:09:27 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: BurbankKarl

I have no idea.


187 posted on 07/27/2007 6:11:24 PM PDT by dbacks (I forgot to pay the rent on my tagline.)
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To: HitmanLV
Ill fated Channel 15 helicopter.
188 posted on 07/27/2007 6:12:16 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Perhaps this will also set a precident for perps to get nominated for emmy’s should the news crew be awarded for good footage...isn’t that the reasoning here?


189 posted on 07/27/2007 6:21:10 PM PDT by dcgard
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
That's terrible.

I have to ask though, is it really necessary to have three news helicopters buzzing about for a friggen car chase?

Let the cop chopper chase them if need be.

190 posted on 07/27/2007 6:24:35 PM PDT by csvset
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To: dcgard
Perhaps this will also set a precident for perps to get nominated for emmy’s should the news crew be awarded for good footage...isn’t that the reasoning here?
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I don’t think so,,,the perp is going down for murder from
what I have read,,,X 4 ,,,

My point was too damn many aircraft in close air-space,,,
uncontrolled...

191 posted on 07/27/2007 6:34:17 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

If I had it my way, I would put NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and the NY Times out of business (and I just threw the NY Times in there for kicks).

They allow the sensationalism of these car chases and we all knew something like this would happen one day.

How about we just let the Police do their job? How about we stop showing people how to be a sensationalist? How about we bury the media because it needs to be?


192 posted on 07/27/2007 6:34:35 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: wardaddy
why on earth do so many freepers use otherwise tragic events to be dickheads?

1) Jealousy of celebrityhood. People love to see the noteworthy people taken down. That is, if they aren't propping them up.

2) Media hypocrisy. Anger at a news media that has a double standard between the people they cover and themselves when it comes to things like invasion of privacy and right-to-know. Add to this the constant tone of media elitisim that they know better than you do and if you disagree, you must be ignorant or biased, while they claim to always be objective and fair.

3) Tragedy overload. When the news every day is about death, dying and dire predictions, one cracks jokes to deal with the horror.

4) Gallows humor. Similar to reason 3, some feel that making jokes relieves some of the inner stress of witnessing something horrible.

193 posted on 07/27/2007 6:45:50 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Global warming? Hell, in Texas, we just call that "summer".)
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To: catbertz
public spokesman for the cops said that the chased driver can be held responsible for the chopper crash

That is stupid. These car chase videos are nothing more than ploy to attract more viewers. There is no need to have helicopters in the air for public safety in a car chase. They could have done it by simply listening to the police scanner and repeating back the useful information.

The key point is that the TV station had the *option* of putting helicopters in the air to cover this chase or just reporting information from the police. The cause of their deaths was their own failure to operate their helicopters correctly and maintain a reasonable minimum distance. The responsibility rests at the feet of the helicopter pilots themselves and those in the TV industry who push them on to do such stupid reporting--not on the perp even though he is undoubtedly a scumbag.

194 posted on 07/27/2007 6:50:24 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: donna

Dang. RIP, and condolences to their families.


195 posted on 07/27/2007 7:02:32 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: donna

Around 6pm, ABC15 said Molly was not on the chopper this time.


196 posted on 07/27/2007 7:25:49 PM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: donna

Sorry for being redundant. I was basically responing to your post #62 to let you know that Molly was not on board. I read post#87 wrong.


197 posted on 07/27/2007 7:31:07 PM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

Is that a body?

[IMG]http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z163/ulm4lyf/th_crash1.jpg[/IMG]


198 posted on 07/27/2007 8:06:19 PM PDT by gop4lyf
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To: gop4lyf

sorry, I don’t know how to resize.


199 posted on 07/27/2007 8:07:21 PM PDT by gop4lyf
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To: JillValentine

by “whole dang sky” i was referring to the fact that the sky is much much less crowded than the traffic below making avoiding crashes ALOT easier..

...unless you are hovering around a car chase down below like a couple of mad parrots in flight..

..or perhaps a more fitting metaphor would be a couple of vultures looking out for carrion below


200 posted on 07/27/2007 8:10:04 PM PDT by modest proposal
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