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The Myth About Boys
Time ^ | Jul. 26, 2007 | DAVID VON DREHLE

Posted on 07/27/2007 2:45:26 AM PDT by Lorianne

A growing congregation of writers have begun to argue that the trouble with boys is mostly a myth. Sara Mead is one; she was until recently a senior policy analyst at Education Sector, a Washington think tank largely funded by the Gates Foundation. Intrigued by the wave of books and articles about failing boys, Mead crunched some numbers, focusing narrowly on the question of school performance. The former Clinton Administration official concluded that "with a few exceptions, American boys are scoring higher and achieving more than they ever have before."

In particular, Mead decided that boys from middle- and upper-income families--especially white families--are doing just fine. "The biggest issue is not a gender gap. It is these gaps for minority and disadvantaged boys," she told me recently in the think tank's conference room. Boys overall are holding their own or even improving on standardized tests, she said; they're just not improving as quickly as girls. And their total numbers in college are rising, albeit not as sharply as the numbers of girls. To Mead, a good-news story about the achievements of girls and young women has been turned into a bad-news story about laggard boys and young men.

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1 posted on 07/27/2007 2:45:27 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
A growing congregation of writers have begun

Nice way for an alleged writer to start an article.

2 posted on 07/27/2007 2:52:37 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Lorianne

It would help if people would quit stereotyping, thinking that all boys are alike and all girls are alike. Individualism, not collectivism...isn’t that what true conservatism is all about? I’m tired of hearing that I’m supposed to vote for the candidate with the ‘D’ by their name just because I’m a woman.


3 posted on 07/27/2007 2:56:29 AM PDT by conserveababe
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To: Izzy Dunne
A growing congregation of writers have begun

Nice way for an alleged writer to start an article.

Well, at least you know up front they planned to get together and they're all singing from the same (politically correct) hymnal.....

4 posted on 07/27/2007 3:06:00 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Lorianne

I, for one, hadn’t heard of any ‘myth’ about boys. Sounds like another ‘create a mountain out of a molehill so we can get credit for proposing a solution.’ And yes, I’m skeptical of anything coming from TIME magazine.


5 posted on 07/27/2007 3:14:07 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: SueRae

Hear, hear.


6 posted on 07/27/2007 3:27:44 AM PDT by conserveababe
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To: conserveababe

probably funded by ritalin producers.


7 posted on 07/27/2007 3:35:55 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: conserveababe

Stereotypes are shortcuts most of us use to avoid having to think everything through all the time - so people won’t ever quit using them. Gender roles and stereotypes about behavior, like most stereotypes, are at least true enough in enough cases that we continue to use them. Of course, it would be helpful (as you note) if people were more alert to the variations in both women and men, and viewed the stereotypes as more rules of thumb (rebuttable presumptions if you will) than normative prescriptions.


8 posted on 07/27/2007 3:43:29 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Since he doesn’t know how to make subject and verb agree, a grammar check program for his computer might be a good investment.


9 posted on 07/27/2007 3:50:15 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Lorianne

This reminded me of book I have been meaning to read for some years now called The War Against Boys. http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/sommers-war.html Thanks for the reminder.


10 posted on 07/27/2007 3:55:39 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Lorianne
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Boys... seems like we are mostly raising Girls nowdays where some are allowed to play a little rougher than others.
11 posted on 07/27/2007 3:58:39 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: conserveababe

Especially when the woman candidate with D by her name says ‘we have to do something about this cult of the individual’.


12 posted on 07/27/2007 4:00:31 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: conserveababe

Sadly, we’ll keep right on hearing that message day in and day out. The left is in full propaganda mode and will be relentless. They think they see way clear now to achieve their four main goals. First is the the socialization of the country. Second is the destruction of a national identity. Third is the destruction of our ability to dominate the world economy. Fourth is the destruction of our military power.

The left suffered a set back with the Bush choices for the Supreme Court. But it has achieved another of its goals and that is to politicize education and dumb down the population.

What’s really disheartening is the large number of people who are clueless one way or the other. The other day I was speaking with an otherwise intelligent and college- educated co-worker about democrat presidential candidates. He told me he was partial to McCain. I asked him if he thought McCain was a democrate and he said yes. Then I asked him why he favored McCain. He was unable to cite one specific reason.

Conserveababe, we are in the wilderness right now. Our survival as a Republic is in doubt.


13 posted on 07/27/2007 4:04:30 AM PDT by dooltotheend
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To: Lorianne

Yea, I guess its a myth that only 35 % of college entrants this year are men, and 85 % of valedictorians are women and so on and so forth. 80 % of school teachers are women and the Union is very liberal, but everything is honky dory, dont believe what you read. No bias here, move along.


14 posted on 07/27/2007 4:34:57 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Lorianne
in the late 1970s, roughly 1 boy in 20 was obese; today 1 boy in 5 is.... fewer boys today are deadbeats. The percentage of young men between 16 and 19 who neither work nor attend school has fallen by about a quarter since 1984...Justice Department statistics show that the population of juvenile males in prison is only half of its historic high....

WTF? I think virtually this entire article is a distortion. Boys are more obese (recently in TIME), they are leaving the workforce (Govt stats), prison nos. are up especially among Blacks.

Even the one concession she makes is dishonest

Reading, however, is a problem. The standardized NAEP test, known as the nation's report card, indicates that by the senior year of high school, boys have fallen nearly 20 points behind their female peers. That's bad, not because girls are ahead but because too many boys are leaving school functionally illiterate. Pollack told me of one study that found even the sons of college-educated parents had a 1 in 4 chance of leaving school without becoming proficient readers.

Even here, though, there may be grounds for a hopeful outlook. Boys at the fourth- and eighth-grade levels are showing modest improvement in reading and now trail their female classmates by slightly smaller margins than before.

Can you spell "disinformation" ?

15 posted on 07/27/2007 4:49:55 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Nonstatist
in the late 1970s, roughly 1 boy in 20 was obese; today 1 boy in 5 is....

Interesting when you combine this with the recent article (http://health.yahoo.com/news/177766) discussing the 'socially contagious' aspect of obesity - the more you're around obese people, the more likely you are to gain weight (and become obese) yourself. As your expectations of what's acceptable change, your habits tend to change.

So it's a self-reinforcing behavior that will tend to expand until some exogenous event changes things.

It may be true enough that white, upper-middle class males are doing OK, but what's clear is that the way in which schools have changed over the past 30-odd years have made them far more conducive to female achievement and less conducive to male achievement. Personally, I see no reason schools couldn't do both - even in same sex schools if necessary. In the dark dim past, the boys who performed best often when to all boys prep schools and all boys elite public high schools, and the best performing girls went to all girl prep schools (there were few, if any, all girls elite public high schools that I know of) and all girl parochial schools.

While stereotypes are never more than rough guides to the interests and abilities of most boys and <>most girls, there are most of the time significant differences in interests and learning styles between boys and girls.

Single sex education isn't for everyone, but it should remain a viable, readily available option, both at the secondary and college levels. On the other hand, it's hard to know what to do when you have women or men who really do want the challenge of the formerly all-male or all-women's colleges. VMI represents a fair example of the former: since the government forced VMI to go coed in 1997, there have been a small, but steady, number of young women who really want the VMI experience (the women must meet male PT norms and are pretty much treated the same in the Rat Line), and who succeed. I don't think the presence of women has been good for VMI, but I have to respect and even admire the young women who've earned the right to be Brother Rats of their classes.

16 posted on 07/27/2007 5:13:34 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Lorianne
"In particular, Mead decided that boys from middle- and upper-income families--especially white families--are doing just fine. "The biggest issue is not a gender gap. It is these gaps for minority and disadvantaged boys," she told me recently in the think tank's conference room."

Translation:

Black males are complete failures and that's throwing the average of all males into the dump. Education is a White 'thang.' (remember that?)

17 posted on 07/27/2007 5:20:55 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Lorianne
According to the new report, fewer than half of all high school boys and girls in 2005 were sexually active. For the boys, that's a decrease of 10 percentage points from the early 1990s. Boys who are having sex report that they are more responsible about it: 7 in 10 are using condoms, compared with about half in 1993. As a result, teen pregnancy and abortion rates are now at their lowest recorded levels.

Abstinence education, anyone?

Actually, I thought the article, which I read in its entirety, was pretty good. The conclusion was:

All these reforms shared a common impulse to return to the basics of boyhood--quests, competitions, tribal brotherhoods and self-discovery. There was a recognition that the keys to building a successful boy have remained remarkably consistent, whether a tribal chieftain is preparing a young warrior or a knight is training a squire or a craftsman is guiding an apprentice.... Boys need mentors and structure but also some freedom to experiment. They need a group to belong to and an opponent to confront. As Gurian put it in The Wonder of Boys, they must "compete and perform well to feel worthy."

Pretty sound advice.
18 posted on 07/27/2007 5:38:48 AM PDT by srmorton (Choose Life!)
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To: Nonstatist
“Reading, however, is a problem.”

Our 12-year-old daughter is a voracious reader, as are most of her girlfriends. Most of the sons of our friends, on the other hand, are video-game addicts.

19 posted on 07/27/2007 7:11:42 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: conserveababe

Yes. I found myself doing this the other day. I ran into a former friend’s nine year old daughter, and I asked her how she likes being a big sister (to a 1.5 year old brother). She sighed and said she didn’t like it because he is always throwing things at her, hitting her, yelling at her and screaming no all the time. Then, I slipped into the stereotype... I said, ‘That’s pretty normal for boys that age.’ But is it really??? In fact, the more I thought about it, the more I realized that no, that behavior is not normal for a boy that age. After my silly statement, the girl said, ‘I wish I had a sister.’. LOL.


20 posted on 07/27/2007 7:16:47 AM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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