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Border Patrol agent shot at near Abram [South Texas]
The Monitor ^ | July 22, 2007

Posted on 07/23/2007 8:00:14 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

ABRAM -- A man who shot at a U.S. Border Patrol agent this weekend remains at large, federal authorities said Sunday.

No injuries were reported in the Saturday attack, the details of which are still under investigation, local FBI spokesman Jorge Cisneros said.

The incident occurred in the small border community of Abram, near Penitas, where an agent attempted to pull over a suspected smuggler around 10 a.m.

The man attacked the agent, who fired at least two shots in self-defense. At some point during the stop, the alleged smuggler fired back but missed the agent.

How many shots were fired during the volley remains unclear.

While the shooter continues to elude authorities, several others were detained, Cisneros said.

Border Patrol officials referred all questions about the incident to the FBI, which is handling the investigation of the case.

Check www.themonitor.com for updates to this and more local stories. For the full report, read tomorrow's edition of The Monitor.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderwar; bp; corruption; immigrantlist; wod; wot
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"Border Patrol officials referred all questions about the incident to the FBI, which is handling the investigation of the case."
1 posted on 07/23/2007 8:00:17 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

For God sake man, whatever you do....DON’T SHOOT BACK...they will lock you up and throw away the key.

Thank you Mr. Bush.


2 posted on 07/23/2007 8:01:54 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: notaliberal; 19th LA Inf; ImpBill; captjanaway; DrewsMum; iopscusa; Liberty Valance; ...

BP Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


3 posted on 07/23/2007 8:02:00 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch

“Border Patrol agent shot”

Qucik! Throw him in jail.


4 posted on 07/23/2007 8:04:34 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: SwinneySwitch

The Feds will probably charge the border patrolman for getting in the way of the bullet!!


5 posted on 07/23/2007 8:05:20 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: SwinneySwitch
more violence crossing the border....

Good God BPatrol, don't shoot back,
john sutton will arrest, place you on trial,
reward the smugglers, and you the agent will
see nothing but bars and walls, while other
smugglers inside the same institution plot
to do you bodily harm.

6 posted on 07/23/2007 8:05:25 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: SwinneySwitch

But Johnny Sutton said that there were very, very few cases where a smugger shot back. Are you saying that Johnny is a liar? You’re going to get locked up.

/sarc

:)


7 posted on 07/23/2007 8:05:27 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: SwinneySwitch
At some point during the stop, the alleged smuggler fired back but missed the agent.

According to Johnny Sutton none of these cartel drug runners carry guns. Must be a mistake......

9 posted on 07/23/2007 8:07:33 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: SwinneySwitch
A man who shot at a U.S. Border Patrol agent this weekend remains at large

He is awaiting his immunity from prosecution from Johnny Sutton & Co and his chance at $5 million from the American taxpayers for his being inconvenienced by that U.S. Border Patrol agent.
10 posted on 07/23/2007 8:08:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: kenmcg

If ONE Dirty Bomb crosses the Mexican/US border all this will be over in one day. There will be Shoot To Kill orders and military along the border 24/7 in 24 hours.

No congressional meetings, no reviews, no discussions, no further laws re the border “enacted.”
Just in a matter of one day, the border will be secured.


11 posted on 07/23/2007 8:08:44 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (The truth about men who watch or set up dogfights.......they can't get it up !)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

This country is notorious for allowing ourselves to get bitten in the ass before we do something about a threat.

Maybe something like that is what this country needs to get us to finally wake the f up.


12 posted on 07/23/2007 8:11:43 AM PDT by stm
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
There will be Shoot To Kill orders and military along the border 24/7 in 24 hours.

Sadly, that will not happen, even then.......

13 posted on 07/23/2007 8:13:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: SwinneySwitch; lightingguy

But Johnny Sutton says that these moles, these low-level couriers NEVER carry guns!


14 posted on 07/23/2007 8:13:41 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
If ONE Dirty Bomb crosses the Mexican/US border all this will be over in one day. There will be Shoot To Kill orders and military along the border 24/7 in 24 hours.

Under Bush, I doubt it. Little would change on the border.

However, the uproar that melted the Senate phone system over amnesty for illegals would melt all Congressional phone, email, and fax systems for Bush's impeachment.
15 posted on 07/23/2007 8:13:54 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: kenmcg

No, the agent will be charged with “obstruction of immigration,” now a Federal offense....


16 posted on 07/23/2007 8:16:35 AM PDT by tracer
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To: SwinneySwitch

Just shooting the Border Partol Agents that Americans won’t shoot.


17 posted on 07/23/2007 8:16:36 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: kenmcg

No, the agent will be charged with “obstruction of immigration,” now a Federal offense....


18 posted on 07/23/2007 8:16:38 AM PDT by tracer
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To: stm

It actually would be feasible if civilians carried this out anonymously. They wouldn’t even have to kill more than one or two swimmers.......


19 posted on 07/23/2007 8:19:25 AM PDT by tracer
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To: Vaquero
For God sake man, whatever you do....DON’T SHOOT BACK...they will lock you up and throw away the key.

Are you kidding?? At this stag of the game they'll probably go after the guard for "either actually had, or preceived to have, willfully threatening, taunting, and/or behaving in such manner" as to cause the double-i to shot him.

Again, thank you Mr. Bush.

20 posted on 07/23/2007 8:20:58 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: SwinneySwitch
The man attacked the agent, who fired at least two shots in self-defense.

Sounds like an easy prosecution for the US attorney, doesn't it.

22 posted on 07/23/2007 8:21:25 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
If ONE Dirty Bomb crosses the Mexican/US border all this will be over in one day. There will be Shoot To Kill orders and military along the border 24/7 in 24 hours.

Unfortunately, if 10 dirty bombs went off on American soil, PC would still rule the day. PC is so firmly entrenched in American society, nothing will ever get rid of it. It would be business as usual.

23 posted on 07/23/2007 8:21:52 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: SwinneySwitch
My advice to the Border Patrol is to not shoot back because W and his justice department will send you to prison for doing your job. Also, don’t ask the National Guard for help, they do not have guns because W doesn’t want to militize the border even though he tells the American public the National Guard is patrolling the border.
24 posted on 07/23/2007 8:23:43 AM PDT by jackieaxe (This one hour pre-flight security screening is brought to you by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)
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To: jackieaxe

If I was this border patrol agent I would sue the federal government for placing me in a position where I could be shot at without the ability to fire back. It is a crime. Thanks President Bush.


25 posted on 07/23/2007 8:25:58 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: SwinneySwitch

The border patrolman is going to jail soon and the perp will sue the US gummint and win millions, thanks to Sutton and Bush.


26 posted on 07/23/2007 8:26:20 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Scythian
Unfortunately, if 10 dirty bombs went off on American soil, PC would still rule the day. PC is so firmly entrenched in American society, nothing will ever get rid of it. It would be business as usual.

You are absolutely correct, in fact, it would futher instill it.
27 posted on 07/23/2007 8:27:26 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Unfortunately, I have to say that I doubt it.


28 posted on 07/23/2007 8:28:54 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Vaquero
For God sake man, whatever you do....DON’T SHOOT BACK...they will lock you up and throw away the key.

Thank you Mr. Bush. and Mr sutton

29 posted on 07/23/2007 8:29:29 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Vaquero

On behalf of President Bush, thank you for your correspondence.

We appreciate hearing your views and welcome your suggestions.

Due to the large volume of e-mail received, the White House cannot
respond to every message.

Thank you again for taking the time to write.


30 posted on 07/23/2007 8:31:40 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch; All

BTTT! (FReeper comments)


31 posted on 07/23/2007 8:37:52 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PAR35

Only after we clear it with the Mexican Government


32 posted on 07/23/2007 8:40:05 AM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members of the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: SwinneySwitch

Johnny Sutton probably wants this guy so he can prosecute the agent who was shot for forcing the illegal to fire at him.


33 posted on 07/23/2007 8:52:12 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; Red Badger
I concur, even if a nuke is smuggled across the Mexican border, the resistance to actually closing the border will be fierce.

I daresay that the Minutemen and similar groups will pick up a few million volunteers on that day though. And Johnny Sutton will try and stop them.

34 posted on 07/23/2007 8:53:28 AM PDT by Sender (Be subtle! Be subtle! And use your squirrels for every kind of business.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
The man attacked the agent, who fired at least two shots in self-defense. At some point during the stop, the alleged smuggler fired back but missed the agent.

How many shots were fired during the volley remains unclear.

According to the above statements, the agent fired the first shot. This is a case to watch. It has Suttonfong written all over it.

35 posted on 07/23/2007 9:35:49 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: SwinneySwitch

Its rumored Johnny Sutton has already implemented Full Immunity for the Drug Smuggler and full US Citizenship and at least two get outa Jail cards for future drug arrests for his testimony against one more innocent Border Guard.


36 posted on 07/23/2007 9:37:08 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: SwinneySwitch

When does Johnny Sutton throw him in jail for getting shot?


37 posted on 07/23/2007 9:39:53 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: SwinneySwitch

LOL! You get those too?


38 posted on 07/23/2007 9:41:02 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Now the Mexican government will try these shooters and will give the Border Patrol guy a Mexican Green Card and a big cash award to come over there to testify. (/sarc)


39 posted on 07/23/2007 9:42:34 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: SwinneySwitch

Ifwe’re not going to empower our border patrol agents to be law enforcement officers then call them what they are by default, crossing guards, not different than the ones at corners helpingyour kids cross an intersection safely.


40 posted on 07/23/2007 9:47:17 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: AuntB

“According to Johnny Sutton none of these cartel drug runners carry guns. Must be a mistake......”

How would SUTTON know??


41 posted on 07/23/2007 10:13:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Throw the agent in prison. We mustn’t defend our borders.

/s


42 posted on 07/23/2007 10:15:35 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: agrace
I double, double dare Johnny Sutton to serve as an un-armed Border Control agent for two or three months. Put him right in the thick of things. If his performance report does meet the standards and laws then put him back out there for a few more months until he gets it right.
43 posted on 07/23/2007 10:37:04 AM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


44 posted on 07/23/2007 10:44:09 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Sender

wow...I never realized how cynical Freepers have become. Maybe I am in denial on how PC this country has become.

but perhaps you are right....even a dirty bomb or some such nitemare won’t wake up the government.


45 posted on 07/23/2007 10:55:30 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (The truth about men who watch or set up dogfights.......they can't get it up !)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
If ONE Dirty Bomb crosses the Mexican/US border all this will be over in one day. There will be Shoot To Kill orders and military along the border 24/7 in 24 hours.

Doubtful. It will not matter if the guy’s name is Juan Carlos Ruiz Angel Rodriguez Vela De Santa Anna, and he is on 6 different surveillance cameras dressed in all green-white-red and has a sombrero on with Border-or-Bust panted on it and a backpack with two gallon water jugs tied on waving a Mexican flag when he presses the button on the damn thing. The DHS in their all-knowing wisdom will ground all commercial airline flights and will be stuffing metal detector wands down grandma Smith’s bra and demanding total firearm registration.

46 posted on 07/23/2007 11:34:01 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Ver well written reply!!!
ha.


47 posted on 07/23/2007 12:48:29 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (The truth about men who watch or set up dogfights.......they can't get it up !)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I like this quote from Duncan Hunter on the Glenn Beck show talking about Ramos/Compean and a statement from Sutton:

HUNTER: “You know, that’s about the weakest statement I have ever heard and about the weakest justification for saying that a guy is unarmed. So ask him. Pin him down on this thing. Say, did you search him, did anybody search him and so if you didn’t search him, how do you know he’s unarmed. And hit him with that. And, you know, the other question I’d ask him, if that’s true, how did those 600 people die in Nuevo Laredo, most of them in drug-related murders if guns weren’t used? Do these guys choke to death on their Wheaties in the morning?”

http://dhgrassrevolt.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/duncan-hunter-up-in-glenn-beck-polls/


48 posted on 07/23/2007 1:52:50 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

” how did those 600 people die in Nuevo Laredo, most of them in drug-related murders if guns weren’t used? Do these guys choke to death on their Wheaties in the morning?””

LOL!!

We need Hunter to cross examine Sutton!


49 posted on 07/23/2007 2:01:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Wouldn’t that be sweet!


50 posted on 07/23/2007 2:02:44 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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