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State leaders look at Md. income taxes (Maryland voters get what they deserve)
baltimore Sun ^ | July 19, 2007 | By Andrew A. Green

Posted on 07/19/2007 7:25:43 AM PDT by sickoflibs

Gov. Martin O'Malley said this week that he wants to find ways to make the state's tax structure more progressive, and key legislators, including Senate President Thomas V. Mike Miller, have expressed support for at least a temporary tax increase on top earners, such as one that helped Maryland weather its last major fiscal crisis, in the early 1990s.

"I believe in progressive taxation," O'Malley, a Democrat, said last week.

Anyone who makes less than $8,450 a year does not have to file a tax return so, effectively, every taxpayer in the state is in the top bracket.

Maryland is one of just a few states in which counties levy income taxes. When those are considered, Maryland catapults into the top tier of income tax rates. According to the Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan research center in Washington, the local income tax in Maryland averages nearly 3 percent, bringing the combined rate to about 7.5 percent. . The local income tax rates push Maryland well above its neighboring states. Virginia's top rate is 5.75 percent, West Virginia's is 6.5 percent, Delaware's is 5.95 percent, and Pennsylvania's is 3.07 percent. Local taxes in Pennsylvania bump that up to about 3.6 percent on average.

Del. Kumar P. Barve, the majority leader from Montgomery County, said raising the top brackets in Maryland could doubly hurt some taxpayers because of quirks in the federal alternative minimum tax.

Sen. David R. Brinkley, the minority leader from Frederick County, said Republicans are not going to go for the idea. Brinkley, who attended the governor's Chamber of Commerce speech, said the impression he got was that O'Malley is less committed to making the income tax fair than he is to finding a way to sell a tax increase to people.

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Well, high paid Maryland voters (see results below)joined the low paid (who don't pay taxes) to put this guy in office last November after he promised he could set market rates of electricity if elected. Now he is lobbying for a massive tax increase after electricity rates have skyrocketed under his PSC.

Get this, High paid Howard County voters voted for O'Malley and now he will raise their high income taxes and push more of them into the Alternative Minimum tax. What justice! Unfortunately many of them use turbo tax and don't even know what triggers the AMT.

Howard County Maryland : GOVERNOR / LT. GOVERNOR Results

Candidates for Governor

Republican Ehrlich = 51,974 (49.1%)

Democratic O'Malley = 52,651 (49.8%)

http://www.elections.state.md.us/elections/2006/results/general/county_Howard_County.html

1 posted on 07/19/2007 7:25:48 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

The Peoples Republic of Maryland gets what they so richly deserve.

Pay up suckers! Will you ever learn!?!?

Probably not. The sheep of Maryland would vote for Joe Stalin if he was on the Democrat ticket.


2 posted on 07/19/2007 7:29:20 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: sickoflibs
...make the state's tax structure more progressive...

Progressive is such a nicey-nice word, don't you think?..........

3 posted on 07/19/2007 7:31:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: mkjessup

And they could have had Michael Steele, who would have drawn a line in the sand on tax increases. I hope they enjoy O’Malley’s attentions to their bank accounts. As you said, pay up, suckers.


4 posted on 07/19/2007 7:32:20 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: mkjessup
The sheep of Maryland would vote for Joe Stalin if he was on the Democrat ticket.

ROFL!

Sadly...so very true....

5 posted on 07/19/2007 7:33:20 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; sauropod; tgslTakoma; Trueblackman; kristinn; daughterofTGSL; SonOfTGSL; ...

Maryland corruption power grab update


6 posted on 07/19/2007 8:10:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: sickoflibs

This just means more McMansions springing up in the Glen Rock - Shrewsbury (PA) area.


7 posted on 07/19/2007 8:14:30 AM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: sickoflibs
key legislators, including Senate President Thomas V. Mike Miller, have expressed support for at least a temporary tax increase on top earners

Temporary. Yeah sure.

Telecom tax imposed in 1898 finally ends

8 posted on 07/19/2007 8:18:49 AM PDT by lowbridge (If YouÂ’re Gonna Burn Our Flag, Wrap Yourself in It First /No Oil for Pacifists)
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To: sickoflibs

I wonder if Tim Kaine and the money-hungry General Assembly will follow suit in increasing taxes here on top of the new “civil remedial fees” (which have already pissed off a lot of folks here, even liberals).


9 posted on 07/19/2007 8:20:35 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: Tallguy

Yes, and I feel sorry for those communities, for soon the same fools who voted in Maryland’s tax and spend government until it got so bad they had to leave will be voting for the same stuff in PA.


10 posted on 07/19/2007 8:25:12 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Meralin PING!

BTW, Indiana is not far behind. State income tax flat rate 3.4% and Indianapolis has a County Option Tax which is proposed to go up to 1.65% making a total of 5.05%


11 posted on 07/19/2007 8:29:01 AM PDT by Sir Hailstone (Graduate of The Archie Bunker School of Conservatism [http://digitalfarmers.blogspot.com])
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To: mkjessup
The sheep of Maryland would vote for Joe Stalin if he was on the Democrat ticket.

Sad but true...... Montgomery County is giving Berkeley, CA and Madison, WI, competition as a Democrat-dominated looney-bin. The people get the government they deserve.

12 posted on 07/19/2007 8:30:40 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: sickoflibs

At least Carroll County voted the other way...

http://www.elections.state.md.us/elections/2006/results/general/county_Carroll_County.html

(R) Erlich 43,921 (69.9%)
(D) O’Malley 18,227 (29.0%)


13 posted on 07/19/2007 8:34:37 AM PDT by Sir Hailstone (Graduate of The Archie Bunker School of Conservatism [http://digitalfarmers.blogspot.com])
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To: 3AngelaD

“Yes, and I feel sorry for those communities, for soon the same fools who voted in Maryland’s tax and spend government until it got so bad they had to leave will be voting for the same stuff in PA”

I am afraid that that is exactly how it works (it’s so depressing) . Years ago Howard County Md was Republican and opposed taxes, then the libs moved in and took over in thousands of newly built houses, now we have the highest income tax in the state, and vote for higher taxes every election. The government loves it.

A lesson to Bush and Jack Kemp low tax-high spend Republicans, you can take the liberals out of their socialist hell with high paying federal contracts and put them in a place with great schools and low taxes and low crime, but you won’t change them, It just creates another socialist hell as they vote. It’s the opposite of the Berlin Wall.


14 posted on 07/19/2007 8:43:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: sickoflibs

My brother lives in Montgomery County. He is one of maybe 100 conservatives in the whole country.

He just put his house on the market. Wants out of there so bad he calls me every morning to say so.

My daughter lived in Tacoma Park last year, for 6 months. You can’t believe the city tax bill she got. Something like $700 with an income of $33K (gross). Then she had Montgomery County income tax, state income tax and federal income tax. Plus she was self employed so her SS was 15%. Didn’t leave much to live on.


15 posted on 07/19/2007 9:00:33 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: sickoflibs

I just moved here to Maryland. This is gonna be a fun battle, it seems...

At least MD gained two conservative voters when my fiance and myself moved here!


16 posted on 07/19/2007 9:02:10 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: Sir Hailstone

When my wife-to-be and I purchase a home we’ll probably look at Carroll County. Possibly Eastern Frederick Cty (Mt. Airy area) or even parts of Anne Arundel if we can afford it - all three are GOP counties.


17 posted on 07/19/2007 9:03:45 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: Sir Hailstone

True about Carroll County, but the same county voted about 80% for Ehrlich in 2002 - so a 10% drop when 2006 came by. I think Baltimore County went from 61% in 2002 to 50% in 2006. In fact, while I don’t have the data available now, I did study it after the 06 election, and the trend throughout MD was that Ehrlich lost a lot of support (5-10% drops) in the Republican counties, while his support lessened by only 2-3% in the Democratic Counties. Go to www.uselectionatlas.org and compare 02 and 06.


18 posted on 07/19/2007 9:22:26 AM PDT by jrny
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To: RockinRight

“At least MD gained two conservative voters when my fiance and myself moved here!”

Welcome! It is lonely here. You know I can understand those unforunates with little education and raised with no responsible adults being lured to liberalism. All those high paid-highly educated upper middle class liberals being so clueless and arguing democrat talking points, It’s a rational world upside down, I think the public schools have alot to do with it.


19 posted on 07/19/2007 9:26:43 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: mkjessup
The sheep of Maryland would vote for Joe Stalin if he was on the Democrat ticket.

You sure got that right.

20 posted on 07/19/2007 9:30:19 AM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: RockinRight

Sorry - but it’s a zero sum gain. My wife and I moved out of MD last year, so that was a loss of 2 conservatives.


21 posted on 07/19/2007 9:31:36 AM PDT by jrny
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To: sickoflibs

Maryland has both kinds. The ones in PG and the city of Baltimore are the uneducated welfare types, and the ones in Montgomery and Howard are the PhD/low-end limosine liberals. It is frustrating. I live in Howard County and while it’s not totally hopeless, we are outnumbered here.


22 posted on 07/19/2007 9:32:11 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: mkjessup
The PRM is creeping south and will fully engulf the Commonwealth of Virgina in the near future. BTW, drive carefully.
23 posted on 07/19/2007 9:58:29 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: sickoflibs
Unfortunately many of them use turbo tax and don't even know what triggers the AMT. No, Idiots!!
24 posted on 07/19/2007 10:02:22 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: mkjessup

Not everyone got “what they deserved”. The split of the vote was essentially 50-50 and My son and his wife certainly did what they could to elect the republican. They don’t deserve this but pervasiveness of the rat party in MD makes it hard to put the right people into office.


25 posted on 07/19/2007 10:05:36 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RockinRight

The S**thouse part of the state holds all Slim’s relatives. They didn’t vote for these clowns.


26 posted on 07/19/2007 10:07:10 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: rabscuttle385

BINGO, liberals should be taxed seperately as they support redistribution of wealth, conservatives do not!! A-h’s


27 posted on 07/19/2007 10:13:06 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: 3AngelaD
Just like here in PA. Although Swann ran a weak campaign,he ran on lowering taxes to make PA more business friendly. So the Union zombies voted in the thug Rendell.
28 posted on 07/19/2007 10:19:11 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Liberals, A terrorists best friend!)
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To: RockinRight
Add me and my girlfriend to that list. We're arrived on the front lines in Federal Hill a while back, surrounded by liberals in pretty much every direction.

I used to say that California would be great, if it weren't for all the Californians. I feel much the same about Maryland. ;-)

29 posted on 07/19/2007 10:21:20 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate" Ibn Warraq)
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To: RockinRight

Carroll County has a lot of good locations for houses, but expensive. Figure on $300K+ for an average 3BR home. Might find something cheaper if you don’t mind being on top of your neighbors in the old village part of Westminster.


30 posted on 07/19/2007 10:28:19 AM PDT by Sir Hailstone (Graduate of The Archie Bunker School of Conservatism [http://digitalfarmers.blogspot.com])
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To: gathersnomoss; RockinRight; RJS1950

Re: “Not everyone got “what they deserved”. The split of the vote was essentially 50-50 and My son and his wife certainly did what they could to elect the republican”

 

Yes , I posted the vote count above and I don’t deserve this either.   HC was Republican 10 years ago.    The 50 % that vote democrat in HC include many, many, highly educated, highly paid federal beneficiaries who don’t have a clue how their paycheck is generated by the real taxpayers..

 

Re: “Unfortunately many of them use turbo tax and don't even know what triggers the AMT. No, Idiots!!”

 

Unfortunately true and yet they see themselves as the ‘me too’ elites that convinced themselves that they and John Kerry (another clueless elite) are superior to the ordinary blue state voter.

 

 

 


31 posted on 07/19/2007 10:57:12 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: RockinRight

Come on over to Anne Arundel, it is not as bad over here. There are more voting Republicans than Democrats. I like to think of it as the bastion between the beltways.

After reading the thread about the excessivly high speeding ticket fines in Virginia, I think that Montgomery, P.G., St. Mary’s, the Disctric of Columbia, and the two or three most liberal Northern Virginia counties should form a state. Virginia would go back to a solid Republican state. The DC hell hole state would be horrible, but Maryland would be alot more reasonable without Montgomery and P.G. counties. It might even be midly Republican. The Eastern Shore, Western Maryland, Anne Arundel, Calvert, Harford, and Carroll might be able to overpower Baltimore city.


32 posted on 07/19/2007 11:29:06 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: sickoflibs
State leaders look at Md. income taxes (Maryland voters get what they deserve)

While politicians can be VERY deceitful...in a fair number of cases
MORON voters put these sorts of weasels into office.
and then are SHOCKED, SHOCKED, I TELL YOU! that their favorite
politician is a total weasel.
33 posted on 07/19/2007 11:31:34 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Tijeras_Slim

If RockinRight is a new Maryland citizen they might not understand your reference. I like to think of it as the best part of the state. Hunting, fishing, crabbing, and the beach. What more do you need in life?


34 posted on 07/19/2007 11:32:23 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: CollegeRepublican

It was a great place to grow up. My family’s been there for about 75 years before the Bridge.


35 posted on 07/19/2007 11:41:10 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: sickoflibs
Unfortunately true and yet they see themselves as the ‘me too’ elites that convinced themselves that they and John Kerry (another clueless elite) are superior to the ordinary blue state voter.

Sounds like a lot of my neighbors. They got theirs, and now have the luxury to be as feel-good liberal as they want. And by feel-good, I mean all of their political views are based on feelings, what's trendy, and what sounds sophisticated.

I got into a discussion with one about terrorism. He cavalierly dismissed it as a product of religion, citing the abortion clinic bombing of years ago. I talked with him for a few minutes about the theological basis for Islamic warfare, and how it contrasts with Christianity. Especially Salafist doctrine, which permits any personal violation of the Koran, including lying, rape, and mass murder, in order to promote the spread of Islam. He blinked at me, perplexed, and almost as a "Didn't you get the right memo?" reminder, added that Christians "do it too."

This from a highly paid expert in his field who I readily admit is a very intelligent guy. It's like once the subject of current events comes up, the brain goes off, and what's cool and hip to say takes over.

36 posted on 07/19/2007 11:46:33 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate" Ibn Warraq)
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To: RockinRight
I used to live in HoCo, but wife and I wanted a house. Thanks to Greenies (no urban sprawl), and the limousine liberal set, all we could afford that was even close to our respective work areas was Mo Co. I vote a ticket that is anti-Dem, and yes I live in Illegal hell (after all someone has to clean the limo lib’s pool). I was very disappointed that Steele lost and Ehrlich was kicked out, but at least I have the ability to say I told you so to my irritatingly liberal neighbors, and anti-Ehrlich lib friends, who even now call MoM the new Glendenning... On the bright side in another 3-4 years I will be able to sell my townhouse with a small profit to a nice set of illegal families... I may even receive a tax break from the state gov’t for doing so... /sarc

Cheers,
CSG

37 posted on 07/19/2007 12:01:12 PM PDT by CompSciGuy (Duncan Hunter for 2008 - no flip-floppers or RINO's please...)
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To: Steel Wolf
This from a highly paid expert in his field who I readily admit is a very intelligent guy. It's like once the subject of current events comes up, the brain goes off, and what's cool and hip to say takes over.

Sounds like someone I know. Might even be the same guy, Hippie retread, works for the gov't?

Just Checking,
CSG

38 posted on 07/19/2007 12:09:07 PM PDT by CompSciGuy (Duncan Hunter for 2008 - no flip-floppers or RINO's please...)
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To: sickoflibs
Maryland voters are dumb as posts. Elections do have consequences. So they'll be saddled with a tax increase.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

39 posted on 07/19/2007 12:20:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: CollegeRepublican

What part of the state is that?

Keep in mind my job is in Pikesville so regardless I’ll need to be reasonably close to that area.


40 posted on 07/19/2007 12:41:49 PM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: Sir Hailstone

Need space. I’m not a townhome or McMansion guy.


41 posted on 07/19/2007 12:43:23 PM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: RJS1950
Not everyone got “what they deserved”. The split of the vote was essentially 50-50 and My son and his wife certainly did what they could to elect the republican. They don’t deserve this but pervasiveness of the rat party in MD makes it hard to put the right people into office.

Point taken. But having lived in Maryland way back when Senator Joe Tydings was trying to take away our guns, the efforts of the Maryland Republican Party have always been too little, too liberal and generally too late.

As much as a hardship that it would be for conservative Americans in the P.R.M., I recommend doing what I did: GTF outta there.

Red State America beckons you my FRiend. Good Luck.
42 posted on 07/19/2007 1:30:33 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: mkjessup

I left Ohio for Maryland for personal reasons. Also I will make more money here.

But the way I look at it, after ten years of making good money here but being politically marginalized, it may well be time to take my big bucks and high-tail it outta here if we can’t change things.


43 posted on 07/19/2007 1:33:22 PM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: RockinRight

welcome to maryland...

you are welcome, drugs are not. been in maryland, different parts, since 1969, residing on the right side in salisbury.

more conservatives are always wanted...

teeman


44 posted on 07/19/2007 2:21:06 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: RockinRight

In the winter of 1991, Gov. Schaefer compared Maryland’s Eastern Shore to an outhouse (he referred to the region as a “s***house”. When the remark circulated, Eastern Shore residents were slightly pissed off. Driving around State circle with pickups with outhouses strapped in the bed.


45 posted on 07/19/2007 2:56:54 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: sickoflibs; hellinahandcart; Lil'freeper; big'ol_freeper; tgslTakoma; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...
Anyone who makes less than $8,450 a year does not have to file a tax return so, effectively, every taxpayer in the state is in the top bracket.

What a statement. God, I hate this state!

46 posted on 07/19/2007 3:55:15 PM PDT by sauropod (Dorothy Parker, on Ernest Hemingway: “Deep down, he’s really superficial.”)
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To: mkjessup

ok, ok, I’m moving. ..

...just as soon as the housing market recovers.


47 posted on 07/19/2007 3:56:20 PM PDT by sauropod (Dorothy Parker, on Ernest Hemingway: “Deep down, he’s really superficial.”)
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To: jrny
the trend throughout MD was that Ehrlich lost a lot of support (5-10% drops) in the Republican counties...

That's because he was an Effin' RINO. And an arrogant one at that.

Of course the Boy Governor is even more arrogant...

48 posted on 07/19/2007 4:00:51 PM PDT by sauropod (Dorothy Parker, on Ernest Hemingway: “Deep down, he’s really superficial.”)
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To: CollegeRepublican; hellinahandcart; Lil'freeper; big'ol_freeper
Hunting, fishing, crabbing, and the beach. What more do you need in life?

King William Donald swimming in the seal tank at the Baltimordor Aquarium?

49 posted on 07/19/2007 4:04:44 PM PDT by sauropod (Dorothy Parker, on Ernest Hemingway: “Deep down, he’s really superficial.”)
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To: CollegeRepublican
When the remark circulated, Eastern Shore residents were slightly pissed off.

SLIGHTLY?!!!


50 posted on 07/19/2007 4:08:14 PM PDT by sauropod (Dorothy Parker, on Ernest Hemingway: “Deep down, he’s really superficial.”)
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