Posted on 07/17/2007 6:12:20 AM PDT by RyanJones
A senior Israeli general on Monday confirmed that the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) are training for a full-scale war with Syria, and that plans have been laid for a swift victory. But in the event of a conflagration, will Israel’s leadership allow those plans to be implemented?
(Excerpt) Read more at zionist.com ...
Will the brain-dead crowd in Washington allow it?
The dreaded Olmert factor.
Military victory is very likely for Israel, but implementing a new government afterward requires time and patience. If it is a war with military presence after the end of war, Israel will also have defeat the remaining Baathists and Islamists that the Baathists have granted asylum in Syria. Syrian Kurds will do a favor. I wonder what other factions would contribute to a regime change and post war security missions.
I’ll bet Carter would protest.
If there is a "conflagration", that means the plan will have already been implemented.
Perhaps this is part of the plan - for IDF to go into Syria, in particular the Bekaa Valley to retrieve WMDs moved there from Iraq prior to the US incursion. They help us with Syria and WMDs, we take out Iran at the same time from the air and sea. Keeps pressure on both sides of Iran and solves our “Syrian” sunni problem...
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reading the full article it was interesting to note the authors take on how Baraks position as Defense Minister would impact any near furture Israeli war.
He states, and I agree, that if Barak is to defeat Netanyahu in any upcoming general election, a military victory would go along way towards boosting his stature
While I never cared for Barak as PM (he was Clinton’s stooge), it is tough to overlook his military credentials. He is certainly a competent military
Just because there is border violence does not mean Israel will be implementing the IDF's current war plan. The fear is that Syria will provoke an Israeli response with low-level Hizballah-style violence, but that Olmert will authorize nothing more than an extremely limited air strike or something similar in response.
one issue with that line of reasoning is that now we have a much more assertive man running the Defense Ministry who also is the leader of the Labor party, which is a large part of Olmert’s coalition govt. Without the Labor party, Olmert’s govt goes down. Barak now has leverage. If Barak sees fit that something more than just a “proportional response” is due Syria, he certainly has the political leverage to force the issue on Olmert and as the article suggest, Barak may need a military victory if he wants to overcome Netanyahu in the next general election for PM
I think the best scenario is both Israel and US to begin war at the same time (Israel vs Syria, and US vs Iran). It will keep both Syria and Iran from supporting eachother, and nail down Hezbollah at the same time. What I am concerned the most are the Hezbollah, and the local unknown “Sunni” Islamists of Syria.
I'm certainly not a military or geo-political expert, but I see Israel's enemies growing stronger in military and economic might with each passing year. If the Iranian and Syrian threat aren't neutralized fairly soon, these countries will reach a point of military parity with Israel. If that happens Israel will rue the day they decided to elect liberals to lead them. They should strike while they still have the edge in military might. At the very least, Israel needs to take out Iran's nuclear sites.
I'd like to see that plan.
as long as the Iranians and Syrians remained supplied by Russia and Israel remains supplied by the U.S. I do not see military parity (at least from a technological standpoint) anywhere in the near future
gemma0000: The thing is that Syria does not need to win the war. They just need to inflict enough damage on Israel, to make it clear that until Israel surrenders to their political demands, Israeli citizens are at risk. They have learned the lessons of Hizballah and Palestinian political and diplomatic successes that accompany even a losing campaign of aggression against Israel.
So would the Syrians...
Here is an interesting email someone from another board I frequent received. The email is from someone who resides in the Golan area.
Today we had business to do in Jerusalem, so we left our home at 7 am and traveled down the east side of the Galilee, through Bet Shean and past the check point at Sede Trimot in the Jordan Valley.
Once we entered the Jordan Valley as we passed through the Arab agricultural areas we noticed the following which is most unusual;
1. There were no people visible working the in the fields.
2. There were no children along the side of the road.
3. There were no tractors or other farm vehicles anywhere to be seen.
4. All of the vegetables had been completely harvested and the fields were 100% empty.
5. No preparation of the fields was evident for the next planting...Plastic was everywhere from the prior crop.
6. The greenhouses had no plants in them.....
7. The vegetable stands that are normally filled to the brim from the harvest were completely vacant.
8. This is the peak season for growing vegetables in the Jordan Valley, yet everything had been harvested and nothing was growing waiting to be harvested or picked.
We concluded our business in Jerusalem and got back on the road again about 2:45 pm heading north up the Jordan Valley. Again, no people, no fruit stands, no crops, nothing!
Do these Arabs know something is about to happen that we do not know is coming? The 9th of Av is on July 23rd, which is the exact day both Temples in Jerusalem were destroyed hundreds of years apart...
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