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Drug czar gives warning (Pot growers "dangerous terrorists")
Record Searchlight ^ | July 13, 2007 | Dylan Darling

Posted on 07/13/2007 6:25:51 PM PDT by SubGeniusX

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To: robertpaulsen
Now, what's more accurate -- comparing an old survey to a new survey or comparing an old survey to some modern, contrived formula?

That's going to depend entirely on the surveys and the formula, and without some comparative infomration about them, there is no basis to say one way or the other. But don't let that stop you.

121 posted on 07/16/2007 10:49:49 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: pnh102

“It is this kind of BS that totally discredits the War on Terror.”

It’s not BS. We know Al Qaeda was involved with the Opium trade in Afghanistan, and that cocaine pays for a lot of South American terrorism. In the eyes of Islamists, vice industries are fine for raising funds if its in the service of Allah.


122 posted on 07/16/2007 10:51:30 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: robertpaulsen
I think it's a good assumption that it was a survey.

My understanding is that pre-prohibition estimates were based on data collected from druggists, physicians, police, opium import figures, etc. I've never heard of a self-reporting national household survey prior to the 1960's. Have you?

But YOU'RE the one comparing that number to a modern-day, mathematically generated number. I'm saying that's a no-no.

I'm comparing numbers that the people running the drug war have put forth as their best estimates. You are using numbers discredited by the same people.

123 posted on 07/16/2007 8:09:52 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
"I'm comparing numbers that the people running the drug war have put forth as their best estimates."

You refuse to compare your mathematical numbers to even modern-day surveys, yet you don't hesitate to compare them to 100-year-old surveys/interviews/statistics/inventories/whatever.

The NHSDA changed the design of their drug survey in 1999 and said that their survey data obtained after 1999 cannot be compared to their own survey data obtained before 1999. But that doesn't stop you from comparing your apples and oranges.

Claiming that a certain number of people use drugs is more accurate when obtained by a mathematical formula vs a survey is a separate argument. Taking your number and then comparing it to a century-old statistic is flat-out irresponsible.

124 posted on 07/17/2007 4:32:21 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
You refuse to compare your mathematical numbers to even modern-day surveys, yet you don't hesitate to compare them to 100-year-old surveys/interviews/statistics/inventories/whatever.

Like you did in post #90? -

The NSDUH survey shows 130,000 heroin users (at least once per month) in 2000 and 1.2 million cocaine users. If we assume 50% are addicts, that works out to .2% of the population, half the addicts of 1900.

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Claiming that a certain number of people use drugs is more accurate when obtained by a mathematical formula vs a survey is a separate argument. Taking your number and then comparing it to a century-old statistic is flat-out irresponsible.

Take it up with the people running the Drug War. Those are the numbers they are using. It's not my fault the numnuts made a case showing their own policy to be a failure.

125 posted on 07/17/2007 9:27:54 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: SubGeniusX

What a complete dumbass, of course they’re criminals, it’s illegal to grow the plant so only criminals grow it. If your prescious DEA would stop enforcing the black market monopoly criminals have on pot then you’d have no problem, the terrorists wouldn’t have a lucrative product to profit from and my taxes would be wasted on something slightly less fascist and stupid, maybe even something useful like repairing a road or the southern border fence.


126 posted on 07/17/2007 10:59:40 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Wolfie

Me too. But I buy American, because American pot is the best pot.

Although according to the one idiot, we’re terrorists. He doesn’t know the other true, evil secret. After smoking, I like to listen to negro jazz music and rape white women!


127 posted on 07/17/2007 7:30:20 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: Ken H
1. Once again, you are taking your "guess" and assuming it as fact in your question. You can't do that.

My god, he does it all the time.....

128 posted on 07/17/2007 7:31:47 PM PDT by Nate505
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