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Local Bee Populations Rebuilding (SW Missouri)
OzarksFirst.com ^ | 9 July 2007 | Kate Stacy

Posted on 07/10/2007 5:45:15 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

Could the Ozarks be emerging from what was once called a crisis for the agricultural industry? That's the question among beekeepers across the region as it seems bee populations might be rebuilding.

Earlier in the year, a problem called Colony Collapse Disorder became all the buzz as bees across the nation left the hive and never returned. But as summer wears on, local bee keepers and honey vendors say there are signs of recovery.

“It was a huge concern. Bees are so important, but it hasn't affected our local supplier." says Susie Farbin, co-owner of Mama Jean's Natural Market.

Local retailers say their shelves are stocked with honey and prices haven't gone up much despite the national decline in bee populations.

Commercial beekeepers tell KOLR/KSFX the insects are slowly but surely repopulating. But, it's a slightly different story for self proclaimed back yard beekeepers like Howard Wimmer. He's had hives for 30 years and while he's not tracking a significant number of bees disappearing or dying, the farmer is finding problems in keeping them fed.

"The only thing different this year was the ice storm and then the freeze after that killed all they were working on. We had to go to feeding them sugar water to keep them producing bees and keep them alive." says Wimmer.

Wimmer says because the bees don't have a lot to work with, they're not producing honey. He usually sells his product at the fair, but doesn't have enough honey to do that this year.

Both commercial and backyard beekeepers say the insects are making a steady recovery. They say the fall should give a better indication of the cause of the disorder, which could range from disease to pesticides, as well as what the overall local effect will be.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: bees; environment; environmentalism; gorefear
I've heard/seen people freaking out because of dwindling domestic bee populations...thought this might interest some of us!

Global warming...anyone notice this line:

"The only thing different this year was the ice storm and then the freeze after that killed all they were working on. We had to go to feeding them sugar water to keep them producing bees and keep them alive."

1 posted on 07/10/2007 5:45:17 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
This new crop of bees looks a little different:


2 posted on 07/10/2007 5:49:10 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
We had similar weather here, but all it killed off was the tail end of the early fruit bloom.

That's buildup food for the hives, but fortunately it turned quite warm and the tulip poplar bloomed a little early, so there wasn't a gap. When the weather is weird like this we offer the bees sugar syrup once a week or so, but they never touched it.

We got 18 frames of honey off one hive (mostly tulip but some clover and wildflower). The bees get the rest of the clover and the fall honeyflow for wintering over.

3 posted on 07/10/2007 5:53:02 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I thought that the collapse was due to the imported pest, the bee mite, that decimated most of the bee hives in Florida.


4 posted on 07/10/2007 5:58:41 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Recovering_Democrat

No bee problem here, backyard tomatoes getting polinated just fine.


5 posted on 07/10/2007 6:03:45 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

It wasn’t the warming that was the problem, it was the late season freeze.


6 posted on 07/10/2007 6:04:12 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Can you comment on reports that Colony Collapse Disorder might be related to some genetically modified strains of corn? I read a report on that theory back in the spring, but haven’t seen a thing about it since.


7 posted on 07/10/2007 6:12:11 PM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
I talked to a guy in Wisconsin last weekend who keeps bees(is that right?)and when I mentioned the disappearing bee he looked at me like he wanted to sell me the Brooklyn Bridge. He told me that he had no idea what started "the missing bee" scare but that he and the guys that he knew locally had no missing bees.

I figured that it might be the "Let's scare the bejeezus out of them" MSM at work again.

8 posted on 07/10/2007 6:17:13 PM PDT by skimbell (Conservatism Works)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

For my backyard fruit trees, I rely on wild bees for pollination.

This year, I had a bumper crop of sweet cherries, and the pear tree is already bending under the weight of fruit that won’t be ready until September.

Maybe the wild pollinators are doing better since they don’t have as much competition from the domestic bees?


9 posted on 07/10/2007 6:20:50 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Bttt


10 posted on 07/10/2007 6:21:14 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I know the bumble bee population around my father's place is intact. I got stung three times yesterday. One was buzzing around my head and I thought I would remain calm and let it buzz off. It didn't and stung me in the jaw. Then I ran off about twenty yards and another one hunted me down and stung me in the shoulder through my T-shirt. Then one more got me in the back. I only got one of them and had to call a truce.

11 posted on 07/10/2007 6:21:30 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: skimbell
that he and the guys that he knew locally had no missing bees.

I have one stuck to my front headlight so if anyone you know is reporting it missing, I'll send him on......

12 posted on 07/10/2007 6:25:11 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Sawdring
the bumble bee population

I don't know why but I really like bumble bees. They don't bother me, they defy aerodynamics and they work their butts off and go about their business. I had one or two enter my house this summer and I carefully caught them then sent them on their way.

Bumblebees are far more friendly than yellow jackets who I consider the islamofacists of the bee world..........I destroy them on sight.

13 posted on 07/10/2007 6:30:01 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I've noticed more honeybee's in the past couple of weeks. We've always have had an abundance of bumblebees.

We also have Carpenter Bees

Those SOBs are chewing holes in my fence.

14 posted on 07/10/2007 6:36:54 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Actually what he was talking about here in the Ozarks in January we had an ice storm I was with out power for 8 days some were out of power for longer. Then in May we had a late freeze and a lot of the flowers and trees just dropped their blooms so shortage of food for them.


15 posted on 07/10/2007 6:37:58 PM PDT by mouser (run the rats out its the only hope we have)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Thats the way they usually are. I think they had a nest right outside the shed door and I was in their territory.


16 posted on 07/10/2007 6:39:06 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: skimbell

Sounds like a George Norrie story that hit the mainstream...


17 posted on 07/10/2007 6:40:49 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: Sawdring
One was buzzing around my head and I thought I would remain calm and let it buzz off. It didn’t and stung me in the jaw. Then I ran off about twenty yards and another one hunted me down and stung me in the shoulder through my T-shirt. Then one more got me in the back. I only got one of them and had to call a truce.

Clearly; you were the aggressor!

;-)

I’m glad you’re not allergic!

18 posted on 07/10/2007 6:46:54 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Sawdring

You need to change you aftershave....


19 posted on 07/10/2007 7:05:37 PM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yellow jackets aren’t bees. They are wasps.


20 posted on 07/10/2007 7:31:13 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Tallguy
I think they're all just guessing.

Probably has more to do with the late freezes (we had TWO) and the resulting lack of forage.

Besides, I don't think bees pollinate corn. Been keeping bees for 20 or 30 years, never heard of "corn honey". It's definitely not on the list of major crops pollinated by honeybees.

21 posted on 07/10/2007 8:11:17 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Fascinating stuff. With all the fear of genetically modified foodstuffs, I suspected that the “Corn killing Bees Theory” was a hit-job, but not knowing the basics of corn pollination I really didn’t know how to evaluate the story. Come to think of it, doesn’t corn kind of self-pollinate?
22 posted on 07/11/2007 6:34:10 AM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I’ve been staying in rural central VA for the last month + and I’ve never seen so many bees in my life. The flowering trees have been just loaded with them, even the clover is covered with bees.


23 posted on 07/11/2007 6:43:05 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Tallguy

CCD (Colony collapse disorder) is not a new phenomenon. In the last 50 years there have been 3 such situations ... none have been fully diagnosed with any scientific validity. The bees have always come back.

I have seen a greater amount of bees in my backyard here in SW Ohio than at anytime this year. Of course that is anecdotal and I am not minimizing that CCD exists right now. It does.

I suspect that as in the past, the bees will return. I am not sure if we will have any good answer as to why.


24 posted on 07/11/2007 6:54:18 AM PDT by HiramQuick
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To: Tallguy

I don’t shave though. I have a ZZ Top like beard, except more sparse.


25 posted on 07/11/2007 4:06:14 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Whew....I guess I can stop and take a breather. I was so freaked out about the disappearance of bees I started going out at night, trying to pollinate all the vegetation around here by myself. Fortunately the charges for assaulting a pumpkin patch have been dropped, but the itching from the poison ivy still hasn't gone away.

I'm glad the bees are ready to make a comeback and start picking up the slack because frankly, I'm exhausted....

26 posted on 07/11/2007 4:13:17 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Tallguy
I did a little reading, and F-1 corn (the hybrid everybody uses in this country) is self-pollinating.

The genetically modified corn controversy IS a hit job. Beekeepers on line have been noting that in central Illinois, which is GRE Corn Headquarters, they are just covered up with bees all over everything, while in Germany, where GRE is less than 1 percent of the total corn crop, the bees are dying off like mad.

Germany gets hit harder by a bad winter than England, France, or the Netherlands, because they don't have the buffer that the Atlantic Ocean provides against extreme cold.

So my opinion, for what it's worth, is that it was the dry winter and late freezes that killed off the "spring buildup" forage. Anybody who didn't feed their bees lost them to starvation. Which would explain why the bees didn't return to the hive -- they starved to death trying to find food.

27 posted on 07/11/2007 4:52:54 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

This is why I love FreeRepublic. Thanks for the info!


28 posted on 07/11/2007 5:28:09 PM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Good news, since if the decline continued we'd be missing a lot of fruits and vegetables.

It could be that this bee blight it something that has naturally occurred throughout history, just like global warming. In years past I've heard that out here in the west, predator populations such as coyote and fox will rise and fall in conjunction with the population of their prey, such as rabbits and rodents.

When an animal overpopulates its range, nature takes its course and starvation and disease will return it to its sustainable number.

So, is it possible the the bees overpopulated, and got temporarily whacked down?

29 posted on 07/11/2007 8:22:45 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Sawdring
Heh. When I was a kid we used to have wars with those bumble bee nests. It was usually just a hole in the ground, and relatively few of them would emerge to attack us compared to other bee and hornet nests, so they were manageable. We'd pound on the ground and they would come out "madder than wet hornets". We'd knock them down with long sticks as they bobbed and weaved in to attack us. Usually. We got stung a few times.

I'm glad I grew up in a more Huck Finn time, when boys were allowed to be boys.

30 posted on 07/11/2007 8:33:20 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Once again—the apocalypse has been cancelled.


31 posted on 07/11/2007 8:39:17 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Hot Tabasco

They don’t bother me, they defy aerodynamics and they work their butts off and go about their business.

Glad you like them!
The Bumble Bee does twice the pollination a Honey Bee does.
You are right about the “aerodynamics”. According to scientist, they aren’t suppose to fly, “aerodynamics”?


32 posted on 07/12/2007 3:12:24 PM PDT by buck61
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To: AnAmericanMother
I don't think bees pollinate corn.

You're right, they don't. Corn self pollinates thats why they are planted the way they are; close together and in rows so the wind can spread the pollen throughout the crop......

33 posted on 07/12/2007 5:48:15 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: FlyVet

I grew up in a Huck Finn time also. I remember watching hornets build their nest in an apple tree. I watched them for about two months until the nest was about a foot tall and nearly as wide. There seemed to be hundreds of them climbing in and on the nest. I decided to go to war with the nest after I lost my fascination with the building process. It was a blast tapping the nest with branches and then running as fast as I could away with them chasing me. I ended the conflict with a ten foot copper pipe one day by hitting the nest off the tree.


34 posted on 07/12/2007 6:09:10 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring
You didn't go after them with bottle rockets?

My dad would put a butane torch on the end of a long pole and burn 'em out.

35 posted on 07/12/2007 6:38:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Sawdring
LOL you had even less sense than I did. I remember using a basketball-sized hornet's nest for target practice with my home-made slingshot, from about 100 feet.

I was fascinated that they would come out and swarm around the nest in a rage.

Now I think back...if they had figured out who was tormenting them, and found me...I would not be blithering on this forum right now, I would be stung to death 35 years ago. Kids do the darnedest things.

Now one of my favorite things is that a pair of mourning doves nest under my patio roof every year, and put out 3 or 4 broods per year. (Way back then I would have offed them with my BB gun, cruel as I was...I seemed to have mellowed out since then for some reason...is that a sign of old age?).

Lucky for them they are under my roof and we trust each other, instead of out in the wild, where I might consider them food. :)

36 posted on 07/13/2007 12:56:20 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: FlyVet

BB guns were for shooting frogs in the pond and black birds. Don’t get me started about BB guns. I had the best time with mine, even shot my brother under the eye with it. We were playing war and it was either me or him and I won. My folks were not to happy to pull the BB out of his cheek.


37 posted on 07/13/2007 5:04:22 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Excellent news.


38 posted on 07/13/2007 5:15:28 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I’m a Minnesota boy, we didn’t have any “legal” fireworks back then, unless one went across the border to Wisconsin.


39 posted on 07/13/2007 5:34:11 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring

Well, we didn’t have any here either until about 4 years ago . . . but that never stopped any of us (there are all kinds of Class ‘C’ fireworks available in SC, TN, and AL and always have been).


40 posted on 07/13/2007 5:37:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Sawdring
Don’t get me started about BB guns. I had the best time with mine, even shot my brother under the eye with it.

Tales of regret. Never shot my brother with a BB, but did shoot him with an oil-soaked cotton ball out of the Crosman 760, thinking it wouldn't hurt him much. It raised quite a welt. Regrets. I don't think he ever really forgave me for that, but that's the way brothers are.

We took our share of birds and bullfrogs with the BB gun too. Sometimes when you'd whack a bullfrog behind the head with a BB, we found it fascinating that they would swim in circles for a while before expiring. But, those frog legs are quite a delicacy when you cook them up.

Now, I have a pair of mourning doves under my patio roof, working on their fourth brood this year. They come back every year. I consider them my old friends, and wouldn't even think about getting out the ol' BB gun. :). Sometimes they will light on the barbeque lid, just a few feet away from my chair, and look me over with their quizzical looks. We trust each other.

How times change.

41 posted on 07/14/2007 12:15:23 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I'm in SW Missouri. We had a major ice storm last winter. Lots of damage to trees and bushes. Then we had five straight nights of freezing temperatures while our peaches and blueberries were blossoming.

For quite a while after the freeze, there were no flowers around for the bees to visit. We have no peaches and only a handful of blueberries this summer.

Like the guy in the article, we have a lot less honey this year. We aren't selling any.

42 posted on 07/30/2007 2:07:09 PM PDT by knuthom
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