THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL!!
Posted on 07/10/2007 5:42:11 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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Than you missed my update
YRs to Welcome Romney & Hunter to Florida Convention(Fred Crashed YRs?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1863477/posts
On another article I saw some of the other candidates making pre-emptive excuses for why they’d lose the Iowa straw poll. Some saying its not fair hes well funded and has a well oiled organization.. and jokingly some said its not fair hes intelligent and has a strong platform.
But I think some are getting scared Mitt will move from rising consistently in polls and leading in the early states.. to becoming the clear leader.. thats what one win after another can do. And at that point I think we’d see many Republicans rally behind him as their defacto nominee. In the go with a winner and present a united front style. Which would be very hard to break that later on.
I am a Thompson supporter, but Romney is an acceptable alternative.
I am not going to nibble my nails down to the quick worrying that Romney might win.
I know Hugh's one of Mitt's water-carriers, but this is pretty paranoid.
“The asterisk was prompted by a number of Thompson fans who complained that some Romney supporters were voting even though they weren’t Young Republican members.
It seems Thompson’s folks lost sight of the fact that the straw poll is absolutely meaningless — it’s just for fun.”
If that’s the case then why did Romney spend so much effort and money busing in donors to skew the results?
Ask Mitt where he stands on amnesty and illegal immigration. I suspect we might hear another bunch of convoluted “I used to shoot critters” explanations on this issue too.
It’s not completely without merit. It generates buzz. It generates excitement amongst the participants and activists. Does it accurately reflect the opinions of the totality of the Republican party? No, of course not. But it does help with organizing and energizing your people and that can be an important factor. But as an indication of general popular support amongst the voting populace, it is of limited value.
“Geography”
ROFLMAO ... Here’s a hint: He lives in the USA.
There is no ‘mainstream’ state to come from.
“Mitt is welcome but he is unviable” - latest poll shows him only 4 points down from Hillary.
More evidence that - irrespective of whether he’s your favorite candidate or not - Romney is running the best, most organized, and most aggressive campaign.
If Rudy is ahead in Florida polls, why can’t he win the straw poll? Fact is, Rudy can’t win *any* base voter straw poll.
And notice that McCain is nowhere. A goner.
By the early primaries, it will look more like a Romney v Thompson race. JMHO. Straw polls give publicity is hte main thing; they do indeed mean nothing unless you can turn them into wider support.
“Ask Mitt where he stands on amnesty and illegal immigration. “
Any recent statements or speeches on that?
I’d like to know.
He’s been very vocal on it, no amnesty and enforce existing laws.
I thought Fred was going to make it official on the 4th. Why the delay, can’t he get things organized? Is he not getting the support ($$$) he expected? Is he having second thoughts?
I haven’t seen a lot of substance from him, just hype and well rehearsed boilerplate lines delivered to friendly audiences.
If he expects to coast to victory on star power he is in for a rude shock.
No kidding. His record in the Senate mirrors McCain. I don't get the whole mass appeal for Thompson from this site or other groups. To me, he is nothing more than another Bob Dole with a little more "star power" but without the war record.
Well, we don't have to ask him. We can look at his actual record since he already took strong actions on the illegal immigration issue while governor.
Mitt took tough anti-illegal actions BEFORE the marches in our streets, BEFORE we all woke up and were outraged by the invasion.
Examples of Romney's Prior Record (notice the dates):
Mitt Romney opposed a bill that would have allowed illegal aliens to get driver’s licenses. "Those who are here illegally should not receive tacit support from our government that gives an indication of legitimacy," the governor said, echoing arguments that opponents have voiced in the Commonwealth and in other states considering similar license measures. "If they are here illegally, they should not get driver's licenses," he said. (Scott S. Greenberger, "Romney Stand Dims Chances Of License For Undocumented," The Boston Globe, 10/28/03)
Romney vetoed a bill in 2004 that would have permitted illegal aliens to pay the same in-state tuition rate paid by citizens at public colleges and universities in Massachusetts. (Office Of The Governor, "Romney Signs $22.402B Fiscal Year 2005 'No New Tax' Budget," Press Release, 6/25/04)
Romney arranged a federal and state agreement enabling Massachusetts State Troopers to investigate immigration status and arrest illegal aliens they encounter during the normal course of their duties. (Troopers would arrest immigrants, Boston Globe, June 21, 2006) (Governor Romney, ICE Sign Immigration Enforcement Pact, Dec. 13, 2006) (Video: Maricopa County Sheriff Arpaio debates LULAC spokesman about MA pact with ICE)
Governor Romney fought efforts to weaken Massachusetts' English Immersion Law. "But yesterday, Romney press secretary Shawn Feddeman said the governor will fight all attempts to slow the implementation of English immersion, known on the ballot as Question 2. ...He will veto anything that weakens or delays English immersion, Feddeman said." (Anand Vaishnav, "Romney Firm On English Timetable," The Boston Globe, 1/24/03)
Governor Romney increased funding by nearly 30% ($8 million) in Fiscal Year 2006 for English as a Second Language, adult literacy and adult secondary education for legal immigrants residing in Massachusetts. The increase enabled statewide adult basic education programs to accommodate approximately 4,000 more students each year. (Romney Expands Adult Basic Education for Immigrants, January 28, 2005)
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio was named as Honorary Chair for the Romney for President campaign in Arizona. Sheriff Arpaio, better known as "America’s Toughest Sheriff", has gained a nationwide reputation for his tough stance on crime, illegal immigration and border security in the nation's fourth largest county.
"I like him," Arpaio said of Mitt Romney. "He's a man of principle, of good character. He did a great job in Massachusetts and I feel he's going to make a great president."
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Romney's Position Today:
Strong border and internal enforcement and security. Romney strongly supports a wall, fence or other effective restraint along the U.S.-Mexico border. (Romney calls for border barrier, The Dallas Morning News, April 12, 2007)
Romney said that McCain's proposed "Z visa" should be called an "A visa" -- "because it's amnesty and that's what it stands for."
He still uses Brylcreem
He was talking about Fred Thompson -— and I don’t think he has any use for Brylcreem, does he? I could be wrong.
I would say Fred does not use Brylcreem, but Mitt? Hmmm. At least it's not Butch Wax.
Romney RisingIndeed. Like a great cloud of hot, stinky gas, Romney is rising. Let us hope that he rises, rises, and disperses. Once the air is clear we can discuss the serious candidates.
Right, Grig. We know he already took tough actions on enforcement in Massachusetts -- here are some of his statements on the issue:
Governor Romney: "I strongly oppose today's bill going through the Senate. It is the wrong approach. Any legislation that allows illegal immigrants to stay in the country indefinitely, as the new 'Z-Visa' does, is a form of amnesty. That is unfair to the millions of people who have applied to legally immigrate to the U.S." "Today's Senate agreement falls short of the actions needed to both solve our country's illegal immigration problem and also strengthen our legal immigration system. Border security and a reliable employment verification system must be our first priority." (Governor Mitt Romney On The Senate Immigration Agreement, May 17, 2007)
Governor Romney: "The immigration bill failed because the politicians in Washington are out of touch with the American people. The voice of the people is loud and clear - secure the border, enforce the law and no special deal for permanent residency or citizenship for illegals. America will always welcome legal immigration, but as a nation we also insist on the rule of law." (Governor Romney On Today's Senate Immigration Vote, June 28, 2007)
Romney's Position Today:Thank you, Random Romney Supporter. Why, that doesn't sound scripted or contrived at all. No. Not in the least. It doesn't at all seem like freepublic is getting consistently spammed by Romney operatives. You may now return to your task of copy-pasting Romney campaign literature to our discussions.
If Bloomberg wins then I think Mitt would stand a good chance. I actually think Mitt is the best person for the job.
I still think that Rudy is the only one that can beat Hilary head to head.
I can’t get to excited about Thompson who is just another trial lawyer, lobbist. No telling how much dirt they will dig up on him. The only way Thompson could win is if Bloomberg runs.
John
Hmmm. Hair envy.... is that anything like....oh, never mind.
It’s going to be a long summer, unless Fred ever decides to jump in. None of the stories say anything new, and it looks like Mitt is going to keep campaigning hard in Iowa to win the straw poll. The media will discount his win because Rudy and McCain gave up, and then we will have to wait for the fall debates for anything to change. In the meantime, we can be entertained by those obsessed with Mitt not being the R candidate.
Note to self: Bookmark and send link to WOSG.
WOSG: yes, there was a recent thread on this where Romney appered to come all out in favor of amnesty. A few Mitt supporters here cautioned me that he was “misquoted” or was a victim of MSM bias. FWIW, I did not see such a bias in that specific article as it consisted almost entirely of Romney’s quotes on amnesty and illegals.
Yes, please continue to ignore his actual record on immigration and the recent youtube videos in his own words in favor of basing your decision on some article written by the MSM stringing together alleged quotes. Good idea. /sarc
Do you have ANY proof that these are “alleged” quotes? If they are so imaginary, pray, why hasn’t the Mitt Romney campaign protested against such blatant misrepresentation? I seem to have missed the Romney camp’s justifiable objections to this “made-up” story.
Mitt bump!
Frankly, I couldn’t give a rip what a Catholic hating Canadian thinks about our presidential candidates.
But a literary critic! Now that is a whole other issue!
It won’t be long before ol’ Fred is hawking Viagra or explaing how he has a “growing problem” not a “going problem”.
Go Mitt, Go!
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