Posted on 07/09/2007 11:09:29 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
Toddler Was Denied Shower Access as Well:
A couple says their vacation was ruined when an RV park owner told them they weren't welcome after discovering their 2-year-old foster son had the HIV virus. Last week, Dick and Silvia Glover went to the Wales West RV Park in Silver Hill, Ala., with their foster son Caleb. When the boy was banned from using the pool and showers, the Glovers said they were offered an uncomfortable and painful choice: They could either keep Caleb out of the water or leave.
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
There is more to this that meets the eye.
Although the parents should probably not have mentioned the child’s condition if they didn’t want a negative reaction, the attitude of the park owner is stunning. Does he think that everyone with AIDS or HIV announces their status before jumping into the pool? He and his guests have probably swam with other folks with HIV and just didn’t know it.
A couple of days ago my daughter’s swim team cancelled their daily workouts when a tyke getting a lesson in the shallow end had an “accident” in the pool.
Someone should post a pic of the Snickers Bar scene from Caddy Shack.
You’re probably right. But I don’t blame him, either.
Oh, ugh. Apparently the foster mother here ran her mouth about the child’s HIV status, and the owner of the place told her he needed some documentation about safety before letting the child use common facilities. Offended by the request, she then went to the media to air her grievance.
Too bad for the child, but I don’t blame the park owner, a lawyer may argue differently.
Not buying it. How did these people at the RV park happen to find out that this baby has AIDS?
For many reasons I don’t think we’re hearing the truth of this story.
The truth of the matter is revealed sometime later in the article. The woman talks too much and offered up information that created a problem where none existed previously.
Madam, would you like some salt to go with your foot, might make it taste better.
“Doody!! Doody!!”
I guess I missed it. How did they find out the child was HIV positive?
OK, now I know. The foster mother disclosed it, in the hopes of garnering a lawsuit of some kind.
It's not the child's fault it got HIV, it's not my fault to not want anything to do with it either.
In the words of Carl Spakler:
“Nothing wrong with this bar”
AND, if he would have TB, I hope they would as well refused him entrance into the pool.
Undoubtedly.
Running to ABC with the story certainly reveals her motives. ABC is now trying to make this the mid-1980s, where AIDS happens randomly and to anyone, and is only prevented (prevented, mind you...) by promoting liberal sex.
Neil Young’s Alabama lyrics.
Oh alabama
The devil fools with the best laid plan.
Swing low alabama
You got spare change
You got to feel strange
And now the moment is all that it meant.
Alabama, you got the weight on your shoulders
Thats breaking your back.
Your cadillac has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track
Oh alabama
Banjos playing through the broken glass
Windows down in alabama.
See the old folks tied in white ropes
Hear the banjo.
Dont it take you down home?
Alabama, you got the weight on your shoulders
Thats breaking your back.
Your cadillac has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track
Oh alabama.
Can I see you and shake your hand.
Make friends down in alabama.
Im from a new land
I come to you and see all this ruin
What are you doing alabama?
You got the rest of the union to help you along
Whats going wrong?
Obviously, the child’s happiness is more important than the health of others.
It is ok for you to be cautious. The parents of the child should also be cautious. I am no doctor but I thought people with HIV or AIDS should be careful about picking up things from OTHER people. I would not want the tyke potentially swallowing pool water, etc. An infection or bug that a so-called normal person can handle can endanger someone with compromised immunity. I think.
I doubt the two year old baby will be at the pool having sex, giving blood transfusions or sharing dirty needles with the other kids.
Or the other choice was to potentially expose others to an uncurable and deadly disease that has a lifetime of expensive and extensive treatment without their knowledge or consent.
Maybe the Glovers should be the bad guys in this story.
From Lynrd Skynrd:
“Well, I mister young sing about her
Well, I heard ole neil put her down
Well, I hope neil young will remember
A southern man dont need him around anyhow”
Show us the money!
My heart goes out to kids and people that gets this stuff....Jesus hung out with the lepers, I probably couldn't. But after all, that's why HE was Jesus and well, I'm an uncivilized superstitious barbarian. :-)
Life should not include painful choices--I say SUE!
Well, the easy way out is to carry documentation.
We were in the thumb of MI camping this weekend. We went into town with our Service Dog in training. She had on her vest with a patch stating it. She is very small (11 pounds) and training in hopes of becoming an autism or bipolar helper.
We stopped in a local pizza parlor and when we sat down, the waitress very nicely said that we could not have a dog there. I, just as nicely stated that by law she must allow service dogs. I pulled out the paper from the Department of Justice with the Service Dog rules on it. She took it to the owner and we were allowed to stay, with many apologies. I said that no apologies were needed and we had some GREAT pizza. The dog slept on the floor the entire time.
Now, had we still been asked to leave, we would have left and gone on to the eatery up the street. No reason to make waves, IMO. She is just training and none of us needed her to be safe. However, we would not have been calling the media either!
At Cracker Barrel on the way home, we were told the same and when I stated that she was a Service Dog, no problem. The women at the table behind us made it WELL known that even service dogs should not be allowed in restaurants. The waitress was so graceful about it. She said, “We have settled the litigation on the issue. Now how would you like your eggs.....” LOL! God love her. These dogs must be trained in public and she knew it.
Despite what the first sentence of the article states, if you read further, it is obvious that the park owner didn't say he wasn't welcome, he said that he needed more information so he could make an informed decision.
It is a tragedy that a child so young has such a horrible disease, but the world does not revolve around him, and you can't expect that everyone else will understand how HIV can or cannot be contracted. It is a relatively rare disease, and it is only prudent for a park owner to require more information before allowing the child with a incurable, fatal disease that he doesn't understand from using the facilities.
The kid's foster parents insist that everyone needs to understand AIDS better but weren't prepared to help educate people, and instead just threw a fit.
You dont wonder how this story ends up on a National network?
Two-year-olds do, however, pee in pools. Bodily fluids, ya know. And if the RV park owner knew the kid had HIV, allowed him to swim, and some other child was infected, guess who would be sued.
If you answered No and never then you have zero knowledge in the area, and if you answered yes then you obviously care little for the other children in the area.
The pool owner did the right(non-PC) thing.
it was a BABY RUTH candybar.
Cruella DeVille and Lenin?
The problem wasn’t her mentioning it, it was the ignorant RV parks reaction to that information.
He/She has set himself up for a discrimination lawsuit that he will lose and likely cost him his park.
Please provide one documented case where a person contracted HIV from swimming in a pool.
I bet with the vast source on information at your fingertips that you willl not be able to find even one case.
Sorry, the Pool Owner did an illegal thing.
You are not going to catch HIV by swimming in a pool with someone who’s HIV+.
My God the ignorance here knows no bounds.
“And if the RV park owner knew the kid had HIV, allowed him to swim, and some other child was infected, guess who would be sued.”
And liable and having to live with that decision the remainder of his days.
Some of the PC, holier-than-thou posts here would crack me up if they weren’t so sad. “You need to wear a helmet, knee pads, elbow pads and long pants to ride your bike but feel free to jump in the pool with a kid with AIDS”.
The thinly veiled Southern basing in this thread is typical as well.
If you can find one case of a person contracting HIV from being in a swimming pool I will admit that I am wrong.
But, I know that I am right.
If you can find one case of a person contracting HIV from being in a swimming pool I will admit that I am wrong.
But, I know that I am right.
Potentially expose others???????
My God I am amazed at the abject ignorance displayed here.
Please, site me 1 case, 1 case where ANYONE has contracted HIV by simply swimming in a pool with an HIV+ person.
This pool owner broke the law, and it will likely cost him very dearly.
It’s shameful that such ignorance exists in this day and age on this topic.
The ignorants minds are made up, don’t try to confuse them with the facts.
HIV transmission by pool water is laughable, and fear of it is ignorant beyond belief.
Think there is any chance he might leave bodily fluids in the pool? Can you insure that he had no scrapes or cuts in his skin? Ever see a 2 year old with a Band Aid?
Can HIV be transmitted in swimming pool water?
“HIV cannot be spread by sharing washing facilities or swimming in the same pool with an HIV-infected person...”
http://www.hiv.va.gov/vahiv?page=prtop08-ov-02
“Please, site me 1 case, 1 case where ANYONE has contracted HIV by simply swimming in a pool with an HIV+ person.”
Go ahead. Let your kid be the first.
“This pool owner broke the law, and it will likely cost him very dearly.”
It’s a private pool. What law?
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