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Lonely and lame, Bush agonises over legacy (Barf Alert!!!)
The Guardian ^ | July 7, 2007 | Ewen MacAskill

Posted on 07/07/2007 8:56:13 AM PDT by Kaslin

· President avoids limelight after Libby backlash
· Republican ally withdraws support over Iraq

President George Bush turned 61 yesterday but he had little to celebrate at the end of a week in which his isolation has been exposed as never before.

Laura Bush held an early family party for him on Wednesday, to which a few professional golfers were also invited, and on Thursday the president made a rare outing to watch a baseball game. But these few birthday celebrations apart, it has been a relentless week for the US president.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: blowbackfordubya; deathofthegop; selfinflictedwounds
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1 posted on 07/07/2007 8:56:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What a load of bravo sierra.

Bush’s legacy will be that he saved the USA from a lot of foxes and wolves pulling at our tendons.


2 posted on 07/07/2007 8:57:52 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Kaslin

I won’t even bother reading it...the fact is, for better or wrose, this President is not concerned with what people say or think about him....more power to him...


3 posted on 07/07/2007 8:59:47 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Kaslin
The history books won't list trivialities such as "Libby backlash" as part of Bush's legacy. On a positive note, he has saved us from further terror so far. On a negative note, he hasn't secured the borders. So the Bush legacy is still not yet written.

One thing I'm sure of, it will be impossible to make the "Bush lied" and "culture of corruption" mantras stick to this man when all is said and done.

And they won't find any interns under the desk.

4 posted on 07/07/2007 9:01:37 AM PDT by Sender (Success in warfare is gained by carefully accommodating ourselves to the enemy's purpose.)
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To: God luvs America

I won’t read it either, because it’s from the Guardian. If Bush single-handedly cured cancer they would accuse him of medical malfeasance...it’s a leftist rag


5 posted on 07/07/2007 9:04:18 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: Kaslin

Legacy = Islamic Republics of Afghanistan and Irak. That’s gotta make his Born Again self proud.


6 posted on 07/07/2007 9:04:53 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: rageaholic

IMO your crystal ball is cracked.


7 posted on 07/07/2007 9:06:53 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: Kaslin
his isolation has been exposed as never before

It's quite an image, the Pres of the US isolated. Who on earth has more contact with humanity every day with this and that? Maybe the Pope.

8 posted on 07/07/2007 9:07:30 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: yldstrk
Part of his legacy will be the open promotion of communism from the White House.

Fact Sheet: Advancing the Cause of Social Justice in the Western Hemisphere
9 posted on 07/07/2007 9:11:19 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Sender

The Bush legacy is far more noteworthy than the Clintoons. The Clintoon legacy has yet to be exposed because of the hands-off policy of the MSM. Tubba and Bubba have a long list of “dead” associates and the jury is waiting to hear about their dirty deeds yet to be exposed. BJ’s in the White House are but one small fraction of their legacy. Hitlery is evil through and through and her skeletons have been hidden well. Since the MSM refuses to expose the Clintoon dirty laundry, we will have to wait for someone brave enough to expose it.


10 posted on 07/07/2007 9:13:03 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: yldstrk
If there was nothing else ... we got a Supreme Court ... with maybe another.

THAT, in itself, could turn America into Americanism again.

11 posted on 07/07/2007 9:13:03 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Kaslin

I rate this delusional mess....THREE PINK GOODIE BAGS!


12 posted on 07/07/2007 9:17:02 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: yldstrk
Bush's legacy is alive and well, I'm afraid...






13 posted on 07/07/2007 9:18:06 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: yldstrk
Bush’s legacy will be that he saved the USA from a lot of foxes and wolves pulling at our tendons.

...Only to hand the USA to "foxes", and wolves in sheep's clothing from south of the Rio Grande.

14 posted on 07/07/2007 9:21:08 AM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: hedgetrimmer

BS


15 posted on 07/07/2007 9:24:55 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: yldstrk
No it won't - Bush's legacy is will be one of failure.

With the word's most powerful military at his disposal President Bush failed to capture Osama Bin Laden.

That is what Bush will be remembered for.

16 posted on 07/07/2007 9:25:00 AM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: yldstrk

“Bush’s legacy will be that he saved the USA from a lot of foxes and wolves pulling at our tendons”

Saved us from foxes and wolves and turned us over to los zorros y los lobos.

Bush threw away a popular mandate from conservative Americans, indepenents and grass roots Republicans. The damage he has done to the Republican Party and America, will, like the “good” in Caesar’s life, outlive him.


17 posted on 07/07/2007 9:27:24 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Kaslin

You know, Bush has never struck me as the type who is concerned at all about a legacy. He seems like the type who just plugs away and leaves it up to God.


18 posted on 07/07/2007 9:33:57 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Since the MSM refuses to expose the Clintoon dirty laundry, we will have to wait for someone brave enough to expose it.

It's not just the MSM that is giving them cover, they are also under the protective cloak of the Bush family.

19 posted on 07/07/2007 9:35:55 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: ZULU
Bush threw away a popular mandate from conservative Americans, independents and grass roots Republicans. The damage he has done to the Republican Party and America, will, like the “good” in Caesar’s life, outlive him.

Sad to say, I have to agree that his record is one of missing the mark. There were no end of opportunities to take advantage of, but he didn’t. And I would like to know why?

20 posted on 07/07/2007 9:41:38 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: yldstrk
Bush’s legacy will be that he saved the USA from a lot of foxes and wolves pulling at our tendons.

Bush's legacy will also reflect he knowing left the southern border wide open so lions and tigers could freely enter the US with the illegal aliens, whom he tried to give amnesty.

21 posted on 07/07/2007 9:42:03 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: I still care
You know, Bush has never struck me as the type who is concerned at all about a legacy. He seems like the type who just plugs away and leaves it up to God.

He unlike the the previous occupant of the People's Hous is not concrned about polls either. He does what he thinks is right for the country. Only a true leader does that

22 posted on 07/07/2007 9:42:48 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: yldstrk

Many years from now when we and our grandchildren and great granchildren are all gone, history will pronounce him as one of the greatest presidents this country ever had. No matter what the left and some in this forum say


23 posted on 07/07/2007 9:48:30 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: americanophile; God luvs America
I won’t read it either, because it’s from the Guardian. If Bush single-handedly cured cancer they would accuse him of medical malfeasance...it’s a leftist rag

This is why I added the "Barf Alert"

24 posted on 07/07/2007 9:51:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: God luvs America

It’s the Guardian - Pravda West - and one thing we do know is that GWB is NOT concerned with his legacy.


25 posted on 07/07/2007 9:51:33 AM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: Kaslin

What Libby backlash? The majority of Americans saw that Libby had been Nifonged.


26 posted on 07/07/2007 9:54:14 AM PDT by abclily
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To: God luvs America
the fact is, for better or wrose, this President is not concerned with what people say or think about him.

Let me fix this for you.

The fact is, for better or worse, this President is not the least concerned with what the American people want or think.

27 posted on 07/07/2007 9:55:29 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: rageaholic

Liberals are all about rage. Rage against America. Rage against capitalism. Rage against civilized law. This rage is demonstrated with each car bomb explosion. This rage endangers the lives of my children and grandchildren.


28 posted on 07/07/2007 9:58:45 AM PDT by abclily
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To: dragnet2

I don’t agree with the latter....


29 posted on 07/07/2007 9:59:46 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Kaslin
LOL, what a load of pap, sounds like a leftwing movie script.
30 posted on 07/07/2007 10:00:23 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: abclily

No, liberals are all about nation building, and creating new big government agencies and bombing the enemy with peanutbutter sandwhiches and cash to solve all our problems.


31 posted on 07/07/2007 10:00:25 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: God luvs America

Doesn’t matter if you agree or not. It’s a fact.


32 posted on 07/07/2007 10:02:06 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Kaslin
Agreed.

Like all presidents he has seemed to veer from certain areas and this has disturbed his formerly loyal supporters. Time will be the judge.

The only thing left to look forward to is the negative, whining, destructive mindset of the pundits, so-called journalists and yes, the Hollywood, pop culture elites. For when GWB is gone there will be a silly old period of "honeymoon". Then the next president will somehow irk their sensitivities.

Good solid critical reporting and opinions are the life blood of democracy. That GWB was confronted with such, is right and proper. It has been obscured by ad hominem and worse. The very nature of the likes of CNN (hallo Wolf, hallo Jack), will force them to continue on hating. Cos' that's what they are- hate mongers.

33 posted on 07/07/2007 10:03:11 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: abclily
This rage endangers the lives of my children and grandchildren.

Liberals are also all about "the children" its all for "the children" well booo hoooo for your endagered children and grandchildren. Don't worry, hillary's african village will be there to raise them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcUui3NO5XU

34 posted on 07/07/2007 10:07:55 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: Kaslin

What’s the barf alert for? I can’t agree with some of the wording but “W” is nearing Jimmy Carter status for ineptitude.
He has shown himself to be an Eastern establishment, liberal leaning Republican. His position on immigration placed him far outside the desires of his party’s base plus his position was greatly removed from much of the Democrat party.
If the President is worried about his place in history more than doing what is good for the country he should step down now.
I don’t think Harry Truman ever worried about how history would portray him. He just did what he thought was right for America. Can you imagine a president today making the decision to drop a bomb knowing that tens of thousands of people would die from such action?
When did this legacy crap come into presidential decision making? The legacy comes from doing what is good for the nation, not what is good for the short term, during the remainder of a President’s life.


35 posted on 07/07/2007 10:14:28 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: I still care

That must be why he's spending half a billion dollars on his Presidential Library. Maybe it will include a pyramid.

36 posted on 07/07/2007 10:16:22 AM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: Kaslin
As this weeks pardoning of Libby shows, the Leftist propagandists here and abroad underestimate Bush at their own peril. They seem to forget the President is a co-equal branch of the Federal Govt., not Congress’s whipping boy.
37 posted on 07/07/2007 10:16:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Old_Mil

Pity. Wow have you ever let yourself be used.

The pic with his arm around the Hispanic young lady and the other hand holding the Mexican flag was at a Cinco de Mayo Parade in Texas years ago. He was either Gov. or running for it.

In Texas it’s traditional for Anglos to recognize the day Mexico won its independence from France, right alongside Hispanics.

Many Texas politicians of all stripes including the most conservative Republicans have recognized that day. The last GOP governor before Bush, William Clement, is on record officially proclaiming May 5 as “Cinco de Mayo Day” in the entire state of Texas.

It’s a Texas tradition, not a Bush thing per se.

Many Texas Hispanic families have been here longer than my family has. They aren’t all recent immigrants, whether legal or illegal. You’ve heard of the Alamo and San Jacinto, right? Well, in those days many Mexican families already lived in the area we call Texas and a number of them are still here after those long years.

To tie all of that into the illegal immigration issue of more recent years and to tie that all into President Bush is asinine.

To do it on a picture taken completely out of context and flashed around the ‘net as somehow representing either the current illegal immigration mess or else the entirety of the Bush Presidential record is worse than asinine.

I would tell you precisely what it is but don’t use that kind of language.


38 posted on 07/07/2007 10:17:25 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: Old_Mil
Bush's legacy is alive and well, I'm afraid...

His legacy will be that of the first American president to allow (and encourage) the invasion of America by a third world dump as he left our borders wide open while constantly warning us that terrorists from the middle east were coming to get us. Putrid.

39 posted on 07/07/2007 10:17:52 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: em2vn
What’s the barf alert for? I can’t agree with some of the wording but “W” is nearing Jimmy Carter status for ineptitud

That is a utterly absurd, really incredibly stupid statement. On Judges alone Bush has done more for the future of Conservatives then all the hysteric :"whaaa I am not getting only 100% of what I want out of politics" Know nothing clowns hanging out on this website will ever do.

Just a few example. Largest tax cuts in history, Largest per capital private home ownership ever, 8.3 million new jobs since April 2003. 46 months of Job creation. Largest sustained period of GDP growth in US History, winning the war on terrorism with fewer US casualties then any similar Counter Insurgency effort, More Conservative appointed to the Judiciary then any other President etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

To compare him to Jimmy Carter shows a complete lack of ANY factual awareness either of what is going on NOW, or what was going on during Jimmy Carter's 1 term. To believe that statement is to be either a complete moron with out a grasp of the simple facts, or a bigoted hysteric fool who simply ignores all factual reality to cling to their own hysteric emotional based opinions.

40 posted on 07/07/2007 10:25:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Kaslin

More defections are expected, and Mr Bush cuts a lonely figure, holed up in the White House fretting over his legacy.....I doubt it and to hell with his legacy! All he has to do is listen to the people who elected him instead of Big Business and whack liberals like Kennedy. If he is going to do “his own thing” then is legacy will be a big goose egg....


41 posted on 07/07/2007 10:25:57 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: janetgreen
Doubled spending of the Border Patrol during his term of office. But that right, Don’t bother the Know Nothings with the facts. Unless some loser never been anything screams it at them for 3 hours 5 days a week on the Radio, they simply ignore those inconvince facts to cling to their bigoted ignorance.
42 posted on 07/07/2007 10:27:26 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Kaslin

His legacy is secure and that is what makes PravdABDNC crazy. Their hero has a blue dress and President Bush has 50 million freed slaves.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


43 posted on 07/07/2007 10:28:31 AM PDT by bray (Member of the FR President Bush underground)
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To: dragnet2

it’s a fact to you...anybody can sit around and cherrypick issues then make the claim “the Pres doesn’t care what the American people want”....


44 posted on 07/07/2007 10:30:24 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Kaslin

Didn’t read it, and I doubt Bush would either. The only Presidents I know of who obsessed with their legacies were the utter failures carter and clinton.


45 posted on 07/07/2007 10:32:12 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: MNJohnnie; rageaholic

...some people can't follow the news. Libby wasn't pardoned.

I don't mean to be unfair to you personally, MNJohnnie, but your misstatement seemed a good time to highlight the reality distortion field that often affects some of these comments.

rageaholic commented that "liberals are all about nation building, and creating new big government agencies." Iraq: most ambitious nation-building exercise in U.S. history. DHS: largest bureaucracy ever created.

History will remember Bush for what he did, not what they think he did or what they want to believe he did. Personally, I think it won't be a kind assessment, but I, too, am affected by the historical worm's-eye view we all have at this point in time.

46 posted on 07/07/2007 10:34:01 AM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: yldstrk

>> Bush’s legacy will be that he saved the USA from a lot of foxes and wolves pulling at our tendons.

It’ll also be a period in which the Democrats were recognized for failing to support the President in a time of war.


47 posted on 07/07/2007 10:35:37 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Mr. Know It All

So if a President does what he believes is correct issue by issue, even though the polls and the nation and many in his own party turn against him, he can still be accused of governing for his legacy solely IF he plans a Presidential Library or IF it exceeds x amount of money to build?

Building Presidential libraries is now a given. It’s considered an historical must, and Bush had nothing to do with that tradition.

The cost might be out of line or not, I don’t know, but if the figure is expressed in today’s dollars only and not related to the value of a dollar through the years of past Presidential libraries, it’s a piece of useless information.

You can keep your freepmail. I check out folks before reading freepmail. You didn’t pass.

But with a handle like “Mr. Know It All” what would I expect? LOL


48 posted on 07/07/2007 10:36:29 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: txrangerette

I didn't say he was "governing according to his legacy." I said that he was concerned about his legacy. It's common knowledge that the library is to be a legacy-polishing institute. An enormous quantity of the funds are dedicated to a "think-tank" that is tasked with publishing papers detailing what a genius Bush was. Yes, every President has a library. This one is different than the rest, however.

As for my mail, I still love your answer on Cinco de Mayo and you're still my hero for the day, so there! :-P

50 posted on 07/07/2007 10:41:48 AM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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