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Domenici part of senior Republican defection to new Iraq policy
The Washington Post ^ | July 5, 2007; 5:45 PM ET | Paul Kane (Capitol Briefing)

Posted on 07/05/2007 7:52:53 PM PDT by TonyRo76

Sen. Pete Domenici delivered the latest political body blow to President Bush's war policy today, as the New Mexico Republican announced his support for a bipartisan bill calling for redeployment of troops in the first quarter of 2008.

As I wrote in the story for washingtonpost.com this afternoon, Domenici endorsed a bill that calls for implementing the 79 recommendations of the Iraq Study Group, most importantly drawing down troop size to a limited number that merely patrol the borders and work on counter-terrorism operations.

"I am unwilling to continue our current strategy," Domenici said.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: amnesty; congress; cutandrun; defeat; domenici; handwringers; immigrantlist; iraq; rinos; surrender; surrenderinos; wot
RINOs on the retreat...
1 posted on 07/05/2007 7:52:54 PM PDT by TonyRo76
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To: TonyRo76

yeah : )


2 posted on 07/05/2007 7:54:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: TonyRo76
From the same article:
Domenici became the fourth senior Republican in 10 days to significantly criticize the current Iraq strategy, following Sens. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), George Voinovich (R-Ohio) and John Warner (R-Va.).

Combined, those four have 103 years of senatorial experience.

That's about 100 years too many! Throw the RINO scumbags out...

3 posted on 07/05/2007 7:55:12 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TonyRo76
Does our base stand up and support our warriors down range (does our base guard these warriors backs...back here at home) with the same intensity that our base gave to the 30 year in the making problem of immigration?

Will our base shut down Domenici phone lines?

4 posted on 07/05/2007 7:55:40 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

They are all up for reelection. I say find challengers.


5 posted on 07/05/2007 8:00:18 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: TonyRo76
Combined, how many years of senatorial experience do the all the others have? A lot more than 103!

So I guess that's how we can tell the veracity of political position, right? Just add up the combined years of experience and viola!

6 posted on 07/05/2007 8:00:56 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: DevSix

Unfortunately, I see Bush’s surge policy losing out in the Congress real shortly. It is simply a matter of numbers. As Bush loses more and more support, eventually the Dems will start winning those pullout votes.

The writing is on the wall for the administration’s policy in Iraq. There is not enough time to let it work out. Bush unfortunately decided to late to try a surge, something that many people were advocating years ago. Bash McCain all you want but he was a proponent of more troops way back.


7 posted on 07/05/2007 8:05:09 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: TonyRo76

Another political coward. Keeping my $ from the GOP. What a waste.


8 posted on 07/05/2007 8:07:03 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: TonyRo76

He voted for shamnesty too...


9 posted on 07/05/2007 8:12:32 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: TonyRo76

They ALL voted for shamnesty as well. True RINO’s.


10 posted on 07/05/2007 8:13:14 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: the anti-liberal
» So I guess that's how we can tell the veracity of political position, right? Just add up the combined years of experience and viola!

LOL! To me, the number of years in office is inversely proportional to a politician's credibility.

11 posted on 07/05/2007 8:19:25 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TonyRo76
None of this really matters. The fight isn't going to remain in Iraq forever anyway. Sooner or later, (probably sooner), the fight will be moved to Iran, or Syria, or both. If Musharif is killed or an islamic coup takes place, the next big fight could well be in Pakistan. Heck, for that matter the central fight against islam might be raging in Europe in the not-so-distant future. If the islamofacists continue to plot and carry out terror attacks there, Europeans will revolt, and it will be quite messy. Lest we forget, Europeans have a very long history of being perhaps the most barbaric, fearsome fighters on earth when provoked. Think Crusades, when a vastly inferior number of Western European warriors carried the fight to Islam for two hundred years. Think the Germanic barbarians, the fierce Norsemen, the Franks, the tough British, the seemingly endless wars between the Europeans. Still, with an infestation of about 17 - 20 million muslims in Europe, they will need American help.

I believe it's coming, and all this "religion of peace" tripe from our politicians is but a weak attempt to postpone the inevitable. It's not about politics or culture, it's about the perpetual conflict between evil and good, Satan and God. And in these times Satan is getting very bold, seemingly looking for a decisive battle against whatever good is left in the world.

12 posted on 07/05/2007 8:24:37 PM PDT by gemma0000 (They obscure the truth by calling it an issue of "immigration"-but it's an issue of LAW ENFORCEMENT.)
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To: Thunder90
» They ALL voted for shamnesty as well. True RINO’s.

I noticed that pattern too. Of particular interest to me (as an Ohioan) is that doofus Voinovich, who in a show of dazzling courage, "switched" his cloture vote at the last minute on shAmnesty—once it was obvious the bill was sunk!

And that was only after making a total a$$ of himself on Hannity's radio show.

Unfortunately we're saddled with this tool until 2010. But I'll gladly do whatever it takes so elect a real conservative in the primaries and help dump RINOvich when the time comes.

13 posted on 07/05/2007 8:27:23 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: ruschpa
Unfortunately, I see Bush’s surge policy losing out in the Congress real shortly. It is simply a matter of numbers. As Bush loses more and more support, eventually the Dems will start winning those pullout votes.

Won't happen if our base stands firm and has our warriors backs. Congress will get the message (especially GOP members).

Bush unfortunately decided to late to try a surge, something that many people were advocating years ago.

Rubbish - There were more soldiers in Iraq for several extended periods of time then there are now (since 03). Reality is what has been accomplished to date (with the limited loss of life) is historically amazing.

Reality is we have lost (or are losing) the PR aspect of modern warfare. We are not losing the war on the ground....and on the whole there has been tremendous progress when one puts Iraq in context.

14 posted on 07/05/2007 8:45:10 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: TonyRo76
if the Republicrats keep it up , we will need a military coup in this country ,in order to truly win these wars .

I for one would not be so opposed.

15 posted on 07/05/2007 8:49:41 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: DevSix

Right on the money, DevSix...right on the money.

What our military has done over there is astounding. I guess we are going to have to wait twenty years or so before anyone gets any credit for it.


16 posted on 07/05/2007 9:09:16 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: TonyRo76
I thought we should have been pulling troops out long ago. They've done their jobs, and far, far more, with honor and at great sacrifice.

It is an absolute disgrace that it is taking so long to put Iraqis in control of their own security.

17 posted on 07/05/2007 9:15:00 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Romney : "not really trying to define what is technically amnesty. I'll let the lawyers decide.")
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To: gemma0000
Those are really good points about the Europeans of yore (...not to mention the greatest superpower of the ancient world: the Romans!)

I'm also well aware, as I often remind folks in conversation, that the Crusades were merely the Western Christians' response to Islamic terrorism.

I just hope today's Europeans—or whatever generation does finally heed history's call—still have enough of the fightin' spirit left in 'em. Undoubtedly, we'll need to help, and I believe we'll be ready!

A revival of passionate, devout and deeply rooted Christianity would certainly help the Old Continent more than anything else. Europeans right now don't believe in much of anything at all; and absent any entity greater than oneself, what is there in life to get excited about?

Europe needs to rediscover the Gospel and her Christian heritage in a big way. In fact, she needs to be all the more dedicated to the Good News of Christ than the mad moozies are to their death cult.

18 posted on 07/05/2007 9:36:15 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: JohnnyZ
» They've done their jobs, and far, far more, with honor and at great sacrifice. It is an absolute disgrace that it is taking so long to put Iraqis in control of their own security.

In principle, I agree with you. Fact is, we could and should have had that country pacified by now—but instead, our leaders decided to fight a PC, touchy-feely "hearts and minds" war. And our finest and bravest have paid the price! Dips#*ts on both sides of the aisle (but mostly Dems) have failed to see victory as the ultimate goal.

It angers me no end that the Washington political class thinks they can conduct wars better than our trained, disciplined field generals and battle-hardened soldiers. That's the real disgrace. I really wish the pols would have STFU from the get-go, and let our guys do their job!

19 posted on 07/05/2007 9:43:31 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: DevSix
Congress will get the message (especially GOP members). I highly doubt that! The Republicans in Congress whether they are conservative or just a plain Rino don't have the stomach for this fight anymore. They see the majority of American wanting us to call it quits in Iraq. The only people who will end up wanting us to finish the fight in Iraq are those of us here on FR. No way will the same amount of people be calling up their representatives in Congress to keep the fight going in Iraq as there were on the immigration bill.
20 posted on 07/05/2007 10:46:31 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: JohnnyZ

“It is an absolute disgrace that it is taking so long to put Iraqis in control of their own security.”

We should have gotten out of Iraq as quickly as we got out of Germany, Japan and South Korea.


21 posted on 07/05/2007 11:00:21 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom ("nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.")
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To: TonyRo76

Another anti-American TRAIOTOR and al-Qaeda supporter joins his fellow travelers in the surrender of the American people to the Islamic Terrorist. Who is running against him in the Primary in NM? I will donate my money to them just as I am supporting Jon in Nebraska. Cowards and SCUM as the RINOS show their true anti-American Colors.


22 posted on 07/06/2007 4:54:43 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: JohnnyZ
You evidently want to surrender to al-Qaeda are you also a traitor and democrat?
23 posted on 07/06/2007 4:56:32 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: TonyRo76
President Theodore Roosevelt - May 31, 1907

"There are some veterans of the Civil War in here. They will remember how, shortly after Sumpter was fired on, a large number of enthusiastic people who were not themselves going into the army began to shout, "On to Richmond," and to say that Richmond should fall in sixty or ninety days. It took four long and weary years; and the same people who in 1861 had shouted, "On to Richmond, the war must be ended at once", in 1862 wished to declare the war a failure and voted to abandon it because it had not been ended at once. Perhaps some of the older gentlemen remember that, don't you? Exactly. The hope of the nation then lay, not with the men who expected the immediate impossible, nor yet with the man who was cowed and did not believe that you could put the war trough, but with the man who recognized the difficulty of the struggle, who, recognized that they had a most stubborn gallant enemy to fight, and who went in and enlisted for a three years' war and saw the war through."

24 posted on 07/06/2007 5:01:31 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: TonyRo76

Maybe I missed it, but where is the administration’s quick witted response? We need a Lincoln but have a Bush.....
I support this war, but it must be constantly sold. (by the way, just because Bush seems incapable of using the bully pulpit at all, does not mean we should not be there - therein lies the dysfunctionality of our current national debate). Tony Snow is only a Press secretary and the press is treasonous.


25 posted on 07/06/2007 5:05:36 AM PDT by oswald
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To: TonyRo76
Lugar and George “Weepy” Voinovich have been long time limp wrist pansies...

Warner has been wobbly on Iraq for 2yrs now.

26 posted on 07/06/2007 7:52:18 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: TonyRo76
Just made entry today that shines a little light on a more hopeful slant on the polls and junk the media keeps putting out on Iraq, Iran, and the rest of the Middle East. It can be found at Beyond the Cusp

Thank you.
27 posted on 07/06/2007 12:15:37 PM PDT by bsaunders
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To: TonyRo76
"Europe needs to rediscover the Gospel and her Christian heritage in a big way. In fact, she needs to be all the more dedicated to the Good News of Christ than the mad moozies are to their death cult."

Well said.

28 posted on 07/06/2007 4:13:08 PM PDT by gemma0000 (They obscure the truth by calling it an issue of "immigration"-but it's an issue of LAW ENFORCEMENT.)
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To: bsaunders

Good analysis, and great blog! Thanks for the link :)


29 posted on 07/06/2007 5:36:23 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: gemma0000
Thanks!
30 posted on 07/06/2007 5:38:42 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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