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Romney called to task for ties to Marriott pornography
Family News in Focus ^ | July 5, 2007 | Family News in Focus

Posted on 07/05/2007 10:43:24 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan

Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, an outspoken critic of pornography, is called to task for his ties to Marriott hotels, a chain that makes money by providing porn to guests.

Full audio of news report broadcast on over 1,000 Christian radio stations:

http://www.oneplace.com/Ministries/Family_News_in_Focus

Family News in Focus is a service of Focus on the Family, Colorado Springs, Colorado, founded by Dr. James Dobson.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americantaliban; hotels; marriott; mormon; pornography; president; romney
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Christian Broadcasting Network: http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/188311.aspx

USA Today: http://blogs.usatoday.com:80/onpolitics/2007/07/romney-on-marri.html

MSNBC News: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/03/255163.aspx

Yahoo News: http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20070703/cm_rcp/the_daily_200865

1 posted on 07/05/2007 10:43:27 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan

SOSDD........


2 posted on 07/05/2007 10:45:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: AFA-Michigan

A flipfloppin I will go, flipfloppin I will go, hi ho a porno, flipfloppin I still go.


3 posted on 07/05/2007 10:45:28 AM PDT by KingLiberty (As 12th Imam I declare 'Give me liberty or give me. . . twins would be nice.')
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To: AFA-Michigan
Now that seems to me to be more than a bit of a stretch.

Unless Romney (1) knows what's on the cable channels in the hotel rooms in the first place; and (2) is on the board of directors with sufficient clout to make a change, in the second place; I don't see how he is personally responsible for every marketing choice made by Marriott.

Besides, with what passes for network TV these days, if the TVs carry the major networks and MTV somebody could accuse it of being pornography. It's certainly trash.

4 posted on 07/05/2007 10:46:36 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
What exactly is Romney’s association with Marriot?
5 posted on 07/05/2007 10:48:05 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: AFA-Michigan

What kind of “ties” to Marriott? Is he an investor? Does he have Marriott in his stock portfolio?


6 posted on 07/05/2007 10:49:10 AM PDT by marron
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To: mnehrling

This is a stretch as I would bet that all of his competitors on both sides of the aisle have at one time or another stayed in a Marriott or one of its off brands.

Oh yeah I wonder how many of them have ever stayed in a Hilton Hotel?

This along with my post is the most silly item of the day.


8 posted on 07/05/2007 10:50:33 AM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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To: mnehrling

We need to know if they provide Lotion too for the guest. Perhaps Fred Thompson lobby for the lotion company....

OH GEEZ YOU BROWNBACK IDOITS. YOU GUY IS NOT GOING TO WIN SO STOP THROW FIREBOMBS AT OTHER CANIDATES LIKE A BUNCH OF HOLY ROLLERS.


9 posted on 07/05/2007 10:50:42 AM PDT by Paul8148
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To: Paul8148
Why oh why do you think I am in any way associated with Brownback? I think this is a hit piece to, my question was to hopefully bring to light how little influence, if any, Romney has in operational matters like this.
10 posted on 07/05/2007 10:52:50 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: AnAmericanMother

“...with what passes for network TV these days...”

Yep just like Amazon does not carry XXX yet but it does have a giant “gay/lesbian” category. Which is worse? Perhaps the faggot stuff that is geared toward influencing early teens in their most awkward times of adolescence is worse than the XXX that just shows sexual congress.


11 posted on 07/05/2007 10:53:29 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Unless Romney

(1) knows what's on the cable channels in the hotel rooms in the first place

It's pay per view porn, and everybody knows about it.

(2) is on the board of directors with sufficient clout to make a change

Yes, he served on the Board in the 90's, but apparently made no effort to change the chain's policy. Can't pass up tens of millions of dollars in porno sales, you know, even though Mitt makes a big deal about how anti-porn and anti-R-rated movies (ha!) he is.

12 posted on 07/05/2007 10:54:06 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Romney : "not really trying to define what is technically amnesty. I'll let the lawyers decide.")
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To: mnehrling

Not saying you all. But my guess is this is coming from Brownback people since they seem to be attacking everyone but McCain now or days. Geez I wonder why not McCain.


13 posted on 07/05/2007 10:54:07 AM PDT by Paul8148
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To: Paul8148
OH GEEZ YOU BROWNBACK IDOITS.

LOL.

If you are going to call some one an idiot, you should at least know how to spell the word.

14 posted on 07/05/2007 10:54:18 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: marron
What kind of “ties” to Marriott?

He was on their Board of Directors at one time, but resigned in 2002.

http://www.timesharebeat.com/2002/htl/apr/0429-01h.htm

15 posted on 07/05/2007 10:55:34 AM PDT by NJRighty (Three things the left knows absolutely nothing about: The Constitution, nat'l defense and economics.)
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To: mnehrling

No, he’s not responsible, but now he will have to answer the media questions on this issue anyway. That’s how the game is played, find the dirt no matter how far-removed and bring it right into the center. Romney will have to now come out pro-porno or anti-porno, with ramifications on either side.


16 posted on 07/05/2007 10:56:13 AM PDT by KingLiberty (As 12th Imam I declare 'Give me liberty or give me. . . twins would be nice.')
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To: JohnnyZ
BODs generally don’t deal with day to day operational matters like this. BODs are more strategic controllers, overseeing M&As, expansions, and budgetary matters. I’m sure most of what they see is an overall ‘entertainment generated revenue’ line item which would include all pay per view items like movies (regular and adult), internet, games, etc.
17 posted on 07/05/2007 10:56:50 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: marron

He was drawing 100K/yr while an active member of the board ... he took the money some of which came from sale of porn in the hotels he helped to keep operating and selling the smut, and he knew where the money came from.


18 posted on 07/05/2007 10:58:37 AM PDT by papagall (Attaboys are cheap; one dagnabit cancels out dozens of them.)
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To: papagall

Well, for that matter he took money made from the sale of liquor in Marriott Hotels - big frickin’ deal. I’m not even a particular supporter of Romney (Run, Fred, Run!) but this seems to be an incredible stretch.


19 posted on 07/05/2007 11:03:52 AM PDT by NoBullZone
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To: AFA-Michigan
Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, an outspoken critic of pornography, is called to task for his ties to Marriott hotels, a chain that makes money by providing porn to guests.

Wow. Talk about a slanted sentence.

I'm no Mitt fan. I won't vote for him under any circumstances because I think he's a flip-flopper with no core principles who's willing to say anything he thinks you want to hear to get elected, but this attack is way out of line.

Unless he personally instituted the PPV project, defended it, or attacked other hotel chains for XXX pay-per-view, there's no hypocrisy here. Any more than as a Mormon he's a hypocrite for serving on the board of a hotel chain that stocks minibars.

20 posted on 07/05/2007 11:05:33 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: AFA-Michigan

Questions on Romney-Marriott pornography connection “could get traction in...the South”
Posted by AFA-Michigan
On News/Activism 07/03/2007 11:50:36 AM CDT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1860275/posts

Top hotel cable supplier called to task for porn involvement
Posted by AFA-Michigan
On News/Activism 07/03/2007 10:22:42 AM CDT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1860223/posts

Questions about Romney’s ties to Marriott porn sales
Posted by AFA-Michigan
On News/Activism 07/02/2007 6:17:47 PM CDT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1859880/posts


21 posted on 07/05/2007 11:07:03 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: AFA-Michigan

So wait, your telling me this guy has strong beliefs but chooses NOT to force those beliefs on others? Why that’s just unAmerican... /S


22 posted on 07/05/2007 11:09:04 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: NoBullZone

Well I suppose liquor and porn profits won’t harm his Mormon standing. But alcohol isn’t even remotely like porn unless you’re noticing the destructive work of both in human families.


23 posted on 07/05/2007 11:09:20 AM PDT by papagall (Attaboys are cheap; one dagnabit cancels out dozens of them.)
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To: marron

Folks, it might be just as easy to actually read the material posted, which answers all questions asked so far and rebuts most if not all false assumptions posted in the comments:

Christian Broadcasting Network:

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/188311.aspx

USA Today:

http://blogs.usatoday.com:80/onpolitics/2007/07/romney-on-marri.html

MSNBC News:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/03/255163.aspx

Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20070703/cm_rcp/the_daily_200865


24 posted on 07/05/2007 11:10:16 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: PissAndVinegar

P&V writes: “So wait, your telling me this guy has strong beliefs but chooses NOT to force those beliefs on others? Why that’s just unAmerican...”

Actually, his track record indicates he has no strong beliefs. He strongly “believes” whichever side of an issue his finger in the wind tells him might get him elected, which obviously changes from one election to the next (abortion, homosexual issues, guns, etc.)

Further, choosing not to SELL hardcore X-rated porn would not constitute “forcing” anything on anybody.


25 posted on 07/05/2007 11:14:09 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan

As a member of the board, his job is to do whatever he can within the law to MAKE THE COMPANY MONEY...not to make decisions that takes money away from the company.

...and didn’t you post the same article a few days ago?


26 posted on 07/05/2007 11:14:33 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: AFA-Michigan

If this is the worst they can say about him Romney will be our next President. This is just lame.


27 posted on 07/05/2007 11:15:41 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: NoBullZone
big frickin’ deal. I’m not even a particular supporter of Romney (Run, Fred, Run!) but this seems to be an incredible stretch.

ditto...ditto....ditto.
28 posted on 07/05/2007 11:18:19 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: ElectricStrawberry

By your standards, Strawberry, Mitt should have encouraged Marriott to operate prostitution services in all their properties in Nevada, scheduled and billed through the front desk.

And no, seeing as how the Focus on the Family story wasn’t aired or posted online until today, I didn’t post the same story a few days ago.

Family News in Focus (today):

http://www.oneplace.com/Ministries/Family_News_in_Focus

Christian Broadcasting Network (Tuesday):

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/188311.aspx

I did post another story on the same subject. I suspect there’ll be more in the days ahead. I’ll be sure to keep you well-posted as they emerge.


29 posted on 07/05/2007 11:19:11 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: NoBullZone

Yeah, and I stayed at a Marriott once and the ice machine was out on the floor my room was on. What did Romney do about it? Nothing. He is clearly not up to being president if he can’t even get an ice machine repaired. /s


30 posted on 07/05/2007 11:20:24 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: papagall
But alcohol isn’t even remotely like porn unless you’re noticing the destructive work of both in human families.

And the fact that Mormon doctrine is VERY much against alcohol consumption and even having dealings with alcohol.

Then again - Catholic doctrine is very much against abortion, yet look at how many "Catholic" politicians directly support abortion... So I guess it's all the same...

31 posted on 07/05/2007 11:23:07 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: highball
Unless he personally instituted the PPV project, defended it, or attacked other hotel chains for XXX pay-per-view, there's no hypocrisy here.

Mitt made a big deal about what a family-friendly anti-smut crusader he was for not putting his money in a Bain Capital investment in a movie company that made R-rated movies.

So he uses his opposition to R-rated movies in his campaign yet served on the board of a company (with a generous salary) that generates major profits (yes, it's a cash cow) from ppv pornography.

Yes, that is hypocrisy.

32 posted on 07/05/2007 11:26:14 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Romney : "not really trying to define what is technically amnesty. I'll let the lawyers decide.")
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To: jalisco555; Larry Lucido; martin_fierro; Billthedrill; Dog Gone; Tijeras_Slim; Constitution Day; ...
Romney Campaign Staggers Under Latest Revelations

Couples Routinely Allowed to Check In Without Producing Marriage License, Some After Crossing State Lines

Immoral Goings-On ‘Strongly Suspected”

33 posted on 07/05/2007 11:26:14 AM PDT by dighton
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To: TheBattman

I don’t personally think it’s all the same ... abortion is deadly by design. Porn is a profit maker by exploiting the lowest level in people’s character. You can drink and use porn without killing any other person, but abortion kills by design. God doesn’t like any thing we do to harm others, and designing to make a profit through harming others is something you don’t want to question God on be you Mormon or Catholic. If a Catholic Priest were making money promoting porn, would that be okay?


34 posted on 07/05/2007 11:27:19 AM PDT by papagall (Attaboys are cheap; one dagnabit cancels out dozens of them.)
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To: AFA-Michigan

I don’t care whether he is on the Board of Directors of Marriott, personally watched the movies, or starred in the films. This is a non-story.


35 posted on 07/05/2007 11:27:37 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: AFA-Michigan
Gee, so this means that each of us should scan all of the companies our financial consultants invest us in? Just in case one is involved in a hotel? Just in case one is involved in a hotel that allows prostitution? Just in case one has some dealing with countries we don’t like? Just in case there is a lawsuit against one claiming an impropriety?

Stretching a little far aren't we?

36 posted on 07/05/2007 11:30:33 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Michael.SF.

If you are talking to idiots, they won’t know it is spelled wrong - so doesn’t matter.


37 posted on 07/05/2007 11:32:16 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: AFA-Michigan
> By your standards, Strawberry, Mitt should have encouraged Marriott to operate prostitution services in all their properties in Nevada, scheduled and billed through the front desk <

A member of the board of directors has a fiduciary duty to the stockholders - to maximize their investment. To be the only hotel chain offering prostitution would have been a terrible public relations move and ruined the chain’s image for the sake of a handful of locations with negligible revenue on a chain-wide basis. Though I am sure there are some who avoid Marriott because they offer porn, that number if probably negligible and pales in comparison to the revenues generated. To have made the corporation less profitable due to his personal beliefs would violate his fiduciary duty. One can argue whether, as a matter of principle, he should have accepted the board post, but having done so he made a committment to Marriott shareholders.

38 posted on 07/05/2007 11:32:31 AM PDT by NoBullZone
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To: AFA-Michigan

Same post, different source.


39 posted on 07/05/2007 11:33:12 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: ClancyJ

Good point!


40 posted on 07/05/2007 11:36:03 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: TheBattman
>And the fact that Mormon doctrine is VERY much against alcohol consumption and even having dealings with alcohol.<

I also believe that Mormons disapprove of caffeine - just think of all those Marriotts with in-room COFFEE MACHINES!

41 posted on 07/05/2007 11:37:50 AM PDT by NoBullZone
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To: JohnnyZ

If your facts are correct, you have a good point.


42 posted on 07/05/2007 11:41:18 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: AFA-Michigan
Honestly, is pornography even a campaign issue? Is this the best one can come up with against Gov. Romney? I don't know who I'm supporting, we don't even know for sure who is running (especially by the time the primaries come to Kentucky in May, the field will have been thinned, but it sort of irks me that this is an actual issue.

Very few motel/hotel chains do not offer the pay per view service. It's not as though Gov. Romney was partaking of the service himself, but whatever. It's a stretch, in my opinion, to say he is hypocritical, if he doesn't approve of porn, and he serves on a BoD that offers the pay per view service.

I, myself, do not "approve' or support or whatever the term would be pornography, however, I will be the first to say I will stay in a nice hotel (and have stayed in nice hotels) that offer the service. Am I, therefore a hypocrite? I subscribe to HBO, and other premium channels, for the sports entertainment and the occasional movie...am I therefore a hypocrite?

I think it was Ralph Waldo Emerson who said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" and this stretching to find hypocrisy proves that statement.
43 posted on 07/05/2007 11:42:52 AM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan ("My Friends we did it....we made a difference. ...All in all not bad, not bad at all." Pres. Reagan)
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To: AFA-Michigan

“Called to task” by a handful of pathetic bigoted nutjobs.


44 posted on 07/05/2007 11:45:38 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: AFA-Michigan

Wow, between this and the dog on the roof thing, they sure are scraping the bottom of the barrel pretty hard.


45 posted on 07/05/2007 11:48:24 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: AFA-Michigan

Proximity anyone?

This type of story does Romney’s campaign more good than he could even do for himself. If this is the worst they can bring up, then I’d be OK with Mitt.


46 posted on 07/05/2007 11:50:56 AM PDT by RIRed
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To: Paul8148
IDOITS.

ROFLAMO! I hate it when that happens.

47 posted on 07/05/2007 11:51:46 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Labyrinthos

“This is a non-story.”

In WWII, President Roosevelt said, “Tell it to the Marines.”

Your opinion is duly noted, Lab, but in this case, “Tell it to Dr. Dobson.”

And the over 1,000 Christian radio stations that are today broadcasting your “non-story” as their lead story.


48 posted on 07/05/2007 11:55:26 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan

Don’t tell me you didn’t post this story 2-3 days ago...I saw you do it. Same story from a different source doesn’t make a new story nor does it mean that anyone other than the relative handful you fall into actually care that Mitt, as a board member, did nothing to rid Marriott of in-room porn pay-per-view.

There’s plenty to go after Mitt without resorting to this lame BS.

It’s very simple. Mitt’s job was to make money for the Marriott hotel chain. By allowing prostitution at the hands of Marriott, it would generate enough negative attention towards Marriott that it wouldn’t be fiscally viable as a program. They are, afterall, a 2-4+ star hotel chain. They might actually lose business for being a bordello. In-room porn does not do this at all because it’s still a choice...and it’s freakin’ EVERYwhere as a choice....that one has to pay for...and only a tiny handful of folks care that a board member didn’t do away with this and would go to another 2-4+ star hotel chain that didn’t provide in-room porn.

Good luck finding that porn-free hotel...maybe you won’t get bed bugs, as it would be less than a one star place that doesn’t even give free cable.

You gonna post this story again when it’s brought up by yet another source?


49 posted on 07/05/2007 11:56:21 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

The original poster has posted three different versions of this ridiculous story since Tuesday.


50 posted on 07/05/2007 11:57:20 AM PDT by LanPB01
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