The Mystery of the 'Nazi Holy Grail'

Spiegel Magazine ^ | Sven Röbel

[BGHater]

A mysterious golden pot discovered in a Bavarian lake in 2001 has been the focus of interest for archaeologists, art dealers -- and now the German and Swiss police. Its convoluted history involves Nazi cults, treasure hunters and modern-day profiteers.

So there it was, the legendary "Holy Grail" -- in a safe not far from the Zurich airport. Investor Svetlana K. from Kazahkstan had been prepared for almost anything on that day last March. But when she saw what had been described as "probably the most important art-historical discovery in the Western Hemisphere" in front of her, all the other superlatives used in the four-page prospectus faded into the background. "An object of such pre-eminence has probably never been introduced onto the open art market," the document stated, adding that, "Given the proper promotion, experts believe its value could reach a sum of around €1 billion" ($1.4 billion).

A veritable dream bargain seemed to be just within reach: The vessel -- made of 11 kilograms (24.3 lbs) of gold, decorated with Celtic ornaments and said to be more than 2,000 years old -- did indeed exercise an irresistible fascination on the beholder.

But the woman from Kazakhstan had been warned that there was one hitch: She had to snap up the bargain quickly. After all, an investment opportunity like this doesn't come along every day, she was told. That made sense to Svetlana K. and her business partner Vladimir T., and a short time later they transfered the equivalent of €1.1 million ($1.5 million) to Switzerland via a Moscow bank, in exchange for a share of the potential earnings from the marketing of the golden pot.

[BGHater]

[BGHater]

oldie but goodie

Nazi-Holy grail ping

[reagan_fanatic]

Nice. I’ll invest in a cut just as soon as I send my money order to this nice Nigerian fellow who’s going to give me 15 million dollars in return.

[SolidWood]

Calling Indiana Jones!

[Perdogg]

What about the Spear of Destiny??

http://ourworld.cs.com/argentprime/spear.htm

[CholeraJoe]

I’ve got it in my gun safe.

[Graymatter]

Nazis were very gullible.

[C210N]

I hate to hint about the gruesome, but the thought occurred to me that if there is a Nazi link and the gold was from the 40’s, the source of that gold could have been from thousands of victims that made the gold donations and then went up in smoke.

[wideawake]

(1) A cup used by a Jew at a Passovertide supper in the first century would not have had Celtic-style decorative images on it.

(2) The style and workmanship of the pictured object indicate that it is significantly younger than 2,000 years old.

[stefanbatory]

I’ll wait for the Ark of the Covenant...

[Holicheese]

The spear is hidden somewhere in Castle Wolfenstein!

[VRWCmember]

That’s not the cup of a carpenter!

[VRWCmember]

Indiana Jones and his dad solved this mystery a long time ago.

Here is the real grail:

[VRWCmember]

(1) A cup used by a Jew at a Passovertide supper in the first century would not have had Celtic-style decorative images on it.
(2) The style and workmanship of the pictured object indicate that it is significantly younger than 2,000 years old.

Exactly. Obviously the real grail would look more like this:

[kidd]

It weighs over 24 lbs.

Kinda heavy for a “grail”

[ModelBreaker]

(1) A cup used by a Jew at a Passovertide supper in the first century would not have had Celtic-style decorative images on it. (2) The style and workmanship of the pictured object indicate that it is significantly younger than 2,000 years old.

Carpenters didn't have 11 kg gold cups hanging around.

[HereInTheHeartland]

Get this handmade Celtic Holy Grail with your support gift of 10 shekels during fundraising week. Limited quantity available to the first 75 callers...

[Sensei Ern]

I made that in high school art class!

[pgyanke]

I thought the “grail” was that the king and the land are one...

[VRWCmember]

So, you seek the grail?

[BGHater]

Another debate for another time, but historical records show that Mary the mother of Jesus was a member of the British royal family, descended from David and also the priestly line of Levi - she was the cousin of Elisabeth.

This Levitical connection is confirmed both in the Gospel of Luke and also in the Koran, which also confirms that Mary traveled to the East to give birth to Jesus in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. Mary’s Levitical and Davidic lineage meant that Jesus was therefore eligible to be both King and High-Priest, also in fulfillment of Scriptural prophecy.

[SolidWood]

British royal family, eh?

[wideawake]

but historical records show that Mary the mother of Jesus was a member of the British royal family

Challenge.

[skimbell]

You’re right. After looking at the thing again, I think the dude on the right is Hugo Chavez.

[silverleaf]

Otto Rahn was in interesting character- perhaps a model for Indiana?

[BGHater]

I’ll keep it off the thread, I’ll send ya stuff later, privately.

[JamesP81]

It's not well known, but the Nazis were hooked up in some very bizarre cultic stuff.

Having learned a little about that part of Nazi philosophy, I now firmly believe that Hitler was one of the antichrists (little a) that Revelation talked about concerning the end times.

[OSHA]

Please put it here. We all want to see this!

[cinives]

I second this.

[frankenMonkey]

It involves a bit of time travel...but not much.

[curmudgeonII]

I thought we Freemasons had the Holy Grail.

[BGHater]

Not sure, I thought you guys have Geronimo’s skull, wait I think Yale has that one.

[Thommas]

but historical records show that Mary the mother of Jesus was a member of the British royal family, descended from David and also the priestly line of Levi - she was the cousin of Elisabeth.

Ah, the DaVinci Code redux...

[#1CTYankee]

I bought one just like that from the Franklin mint. (As well as my 2006 Boston Reds Sox Christmas ornament.)

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks BGHater. Related, Gundestrup Cauldron:

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[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

...said to be more than 2,000 years old ...

Holy Grail?

someone is using fuzzy math?

[Squidpup]

[VRWCmember]

...said to be more than 2,000 years old ...
Holy Grail?
someone is using fuzzy math?

Perhaps it was already an antique when Jesus used it.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

Well its a Grail and a paper weight !

lol

[colorado tanker]

Oh, goody, something I can invest the British Lottery winnings in that this e-mail just told me I won.

[GovernmentIsTheProblem]

“This Levitical connection is confirmed both in the Gospel of Luke and also in the Koran, which also confirms that Mary traveled to the East to give birth to Jesus in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. Mary’s Levitical and Davidic lineage meant that Jesus was therefore eligible to be both King and High-Priest, also in fulfillment of Scriptural prophecy.”

Any chance you’re in the market for a nice bridge in Brooklyn? How about a slightly worn Nazi cup?

[nw_arizona_granny]

Ping.

[USMCVet]

Too weird to believe ping..

[AppyPappy]

If she went East to have the baby and ended up in England, she went a LONG way.

[fso301]

Another debate for another time, but historical records show that Mary the mother of Jesus was a member of the British royal family, descended from David and also the priestly line of Levi - she was the cousin of Elisabeth.

BTW. Herbert W. Armstrong plagarized all that British-Israelism stuff.

[Calpernia]

ping

[Calpernia]

It is like, Indiana Jones was based on real events.

[Tribune7]

That made sense to Svetlana K. and her business partner Vladimir T., and a short time later they transfered the equivalent of €1.1 million ($1.5 million) to Switzerland via a Moscow bank, in exchange for a share of the potential earnings from the marketing of the golden pot.

I think they chose . . . poorly.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Laughing, as I admit that i managed to miss the Indiana Jones movies.

I am inclined to think that a lot of Jews died to donate that gold to hitler. I keep thinking of gold teeth.

[Quix]

Thanks.