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Opponents of immigration bill get louder ("We're in a war zone right now")
United Press International ^ | June 24, 2007 at 10:08 AM

Posted on 06/24/2007 8:56:56 AM PDT by BornInASmallTown

WASHINGTON, June 24 (UPI) -- Legislation perceived as amnesty for illegal immigrants has ignited grass-roots groups throughout the United States, it was reported Sunday.

The largest and loudest of the groups, NumbersUSA, reports soaring donations and an 81 percent membership increase since January, the Los Angeles Times said.

Groups like NumbersUSA are playing a larger role than ever in the immigration debate, which could come before the Senate again this week for a pass or fail vote on a bill, the Times said.

NumbersUSA President Roy Beck said he expects to rally the group's 419,000 activist members with dozens of e-mail alerts.

"We're in a war zone right now," said Beck, who touts his battle against pro-bill groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce as "an amazing David-and-Goliath thing."

Most polls show U.S. residents are concerned about border security but favor allowing most illegal immigrants now in the country to gain legal status, the Times reported.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borders; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; noamnestyforillegals; sellouts; vampirebill; wontgetfooledagain
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1 posted on 06/24/2007 8:56:58 AM PDT by BornInASmallTown
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To: BornInASmallTown

GOOD! 85% of outraged Americans can be really loud.


2 posted on 06/24/2007 9:00:05 AM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: BornInASmallTown
Most polls show U.S. residents are concerned about border security but favor allowing most illegal immigrants now in the country to gain legal status, the Times reported.

Oh, really...?

No amnesty for this bill

3 posted on 06/24/2007 9:01:27 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: BornInASmallTown

No doubt websites like NumbersUsa might be next on Lott’s “hit list” of things to get rid of, along with talk radio. Can’t have the peasants actually expressing themselves, after all.


4 posted on 06/24/2007 9:01:36 AM PDT by MizSterious (Recovering Bushbot)
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To: BornInASmallTown
The Media lies. We're just getting warmed up. I don't think the politicians have felt the heat yet.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 06/24/2007 9:01:50 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Aria
Holy media blackout! Where are the photos, where is the AP, and why are these stories about todays march only about 5 sentences long?
6 posted on 06/24/2007 9:02:14 AM PDT by chaos_5 (1-800-882-2005 Amnesty Hot-line!)
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To: BornInASmallTown
Most polls show U.S. residents are concerned about border security but favor allowing most illegal immigrants now in the country to gain legal status, the Times reported.

I have yet to see a poll that supports this bogus claim. Even the granolas at work are against it..

7 posted on 06/24/2007 9:02:25 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: mewzilla

GREAT column. Maybe you should post it as a standalone?


8 posted on 06/24/2007 9:03:34 AM PDT by MizSterious (Recovering Bushbot)
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To: mewzilla

Guess we know why this swill doesn’t have a byline.


9 posted on 06/24/2007 9:03:49 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: BornInASmallTown
"Most polls show U.S. residents are concerned about border security but favor allowing most illegal immigrants now in the country to gain legal status, the Times reported."

LIARS!!

I don't know one person who favors the Immigration Bill!!

10 posted on 06/24/2007 9:03:59 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: chaos_5

Because the media is controlled by someone or something and has an agenda?


11 posted on 06/24/2007 9:04:49 AM PDT by winodog
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To: BornInASmallTown

Most polls show U.S. residents are concerned about border security but favor allowing most illegal immigrants now in the country to gain legal status, the Times reported.

They sure aren’t polling anyone I come in contact with.

Close the border NOW!
NO amnesty.


12 posted on 06/24/2007 9:06:19 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: goldstategop

The traitors in DC are so arrogant and clueless that they actually don’t realize their days as “Royalty” are over. The American people, God willing, will be voting them OUT and sending them back to the real world to live among the peasants.


13 posted on 06/24/2007 9:08:48 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Aria
GOSH-DARNIT!!! Now that the LATimes reports that "[m]ost polls show U.S. residents are concerned about border security but favor allowing most illegal immigrants now in the country to gain legal status," I guess it must be so.

After all, don't most American citizens want their entire culture and traditions changed, their environment and tax structure and social services and social security raped, their schools dumbed down, their hospitals closed, their freeways and towns congested a thousand-fold, their craven politicians habla espanol, their sovereignty disrespected, their patriotism mocked, their laws wantonly broken, their citizens murdered by gangsters and drunk drivers? Sure they do!

Regards . . . Penny


14 posted on 06/24/2007 9:09:43 AM PDT by Penny
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To: mewzilla
Excellent Article:

No Amnesty For This Bill

"What a crock. If this bill were popular, Washington politicians would have passed it in a heartbeat. If the bill were popular among Democrats, as bill supporters suggest, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., would be pushing for another vote, instead of daring President Bush to champion the measure."

"Here's something The New York Times story forgot to mention: Its poll also found that 69 percent of Americans think illegal immigrants should be prosecuted and deported."

15 posted on 06/24/2007 9:09:47 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: MizSterious
GREAT column. Maybe you should post it as a standalone?

Aaaaargh. Bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep.

If someone more competent than I would care to have at it, please do.

16 posted on 06/24/2007 9:11:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: cardinal4
These people are LIARS.

Scratch that. PROFFESSIONAL LIARS.

17 posted on 06/24/2007 9:12:45 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (Speaker Pelosi - Three cheers for Amnesty!)
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To: blam
"Here's something The New York Times story forgot to mention...

Go figure, eh?

18 posted on 06/24/2007 9:12:56 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
"The American people, God willing, will be voting them OUT and sending them back to the real world to live among the peasants."

Not with their retirement 'packages'. Those 'pacakges' are greater than the income of the average American working a lifetime.

19 posted on 06/24/2007 9:13:49 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: blam
"Here's something The New York Times story forgot to mention: Its poll also found that 69 percent of Americans think illegal immigrants should be prosecuted and deported."

Imagine the NYT forgetting this key part..

20 posted on 06/24/2007 9:15:04 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: BornInASmallTown
Most polls show U.S. residents are concerned about border security but favor allowing most illegal immigrants now in the country to gain legal status, the Times reported.

That is a complete fabrication ... the major concern is that the amnesty bill will reward foreign nationals that are in this country illegally a path to citizenship. One that they most certainly don't deserve as illegals ... period.

21 posted on 06/24/2007 9:15:10 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: blam
Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion

Gee, I wonder why the CBO hasn't run the numbers...

22 posted on 06/24/2007 9:16:27 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
"Go figure, eh?"

It's amazing that this article originates from The San Francisco Chronicle.

23 posted on 06/24/2007 9:17:11 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: All; blam

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After Sen. TED KENNEDY’s briging us the ‘After the Fall’ Show:

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Edcuation (SLAVE LABOR) Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

...nothing comes till ‘After the Fence’ now.

.


24 posted on 06/24/2007 9:18:47 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com))
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To: BornInASmallTown
"We're in a war zone right now,"

Not quite yet. 

But if the bill passes, we may be soon.

25 posted on 06/24/2007 9:19:12 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (When's MY turn? What crimes may I commit and recieve amnesty for?)
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To: blam; mewzilla
The CBO did do an estimate....

CBO Cost Estimate

....and if I read it right, boy, did they lowball it.

26 posted on 06/24/2007 9:19:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: BornInASmallTown

Even the Liberals I know are NOT in favor of the “AMNESTY” bill.


27 posted on 06/24/2007 9:20:06 AM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Finally figured out why Kennedy is so pro-illegal alien. They are both nothing more than drunken murderes in cars.


28 posted on 06/24/2007 9:25:02 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1 - Take no prisoners))
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To: ExTexasRedhead
The traitors in DC are so arrogant and clueless that they actually don’t realize their days as “Royalty” are over. The American people, God willing, will be voting them OUT and sending them back to the real world to live among the peasants.

The only way to ensure that another crop of Washington "royalty" does not spring up is to strictly enforce TERM LIMITS!

29 posted on 06/24/2007 9:25:17 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: NTHockey
Just for giggles...

Clinton chauffeur an illegal immigrant

30 posted on 06/24/2007 9:27:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

The next election may see more incumbents leaving office than has ever happened in any US election in history.


31 posted on 06/24/2007 9:27:26 AM PDT by sourcery (Double Feature: "The Amnestyville Horror" and "Kill the Bill, Vol. 2")
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To: JimRed
"The only way to ensure that another crop of Washington "royalty" does not spring up is to strictly enforce TERM LIMITS!"

Reluctantly...I agree. (They just cannot control themselves)

32 posted on 06/24/2007 9:28:28 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: BornInASmallTown

“Most polls show U.S. residents are concerned about border security but favor allowing most illegal immigrants now in the country to gain legal status, the Times reported.”

?!


33 posted on 06/24/2007 9:40:35 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: BornInASmallTown

34 posted on 06/24/2007 9:54:19 AM PDT by Gritty (This is not an immigration issue but a fascinating template on subverting our sovereignty-Mark Steyn)
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To: mewzilla

It’s war. Washington elitists and oligarchs vs WE THE PEOPLE.


35 posted on 06/24/2007 10:15:52 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: blam

I’d like to see a poll describing what the citizenry thinks should be done to elitist senators who are trying to ram this garbage down our throats. Tarring and feathering would be a GOOD START.


36 posted on 06/24/2007 10:19:36 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

It’s not even about illegal aliens anymore. It’s about the relationship between the government and the people.

It’s about who wears the pants in the family.

And right now, the president and a whole bunch of others are confused about that. See, they think they’re in charge. They think it’s their country.

They think they’re going to tell us what to do.

Well, they’ve got another think coming. This time they’ve got a fight on their hands.

The background is illegal immigration and the years of treasonously incompetent government which have allowed it to turn into the biggest threat to our country and its future. It takes some doing for an issue to rival militant Islam as a danger to the United States, but illegal immigration does.

And that is completely the fault of the federal government. Stretching back to the late 1980s, and accelerating to light speed under George W. Bush and the Republican Congress, government negligence turned a blind eye to border security and the flood of illegal aliens into the country. Instead of dealing with the problem, the government facilitated it. Instead of being rounded up and deported, illegal aliens were guaranteed an ever-larger pool of government services.

The United States became Mexico’s welfare and medical system and the federal government did absolutely nothing to protect the interests or territorial integrity of the nation. As cultural dilution and antagonism became rampant, the government was uncaring and impotent. It was national suicide by governmental neglect.

American wages were suppressed, American taxes were raided, American communities were endangered, American values were suppressed, American culture was spat upon. Entire communities were lost to illegal newcomers who were invaders, not immigrants. A centuries-old American model of immigration was thrown out for a divisive new pattern which has already effectively lost the United States sovereignty over portions of its own territory.

We face cultural and financial bankruptcy because the president and Congress failed to uphold their oaths of office. They have ignored the rule of law by refusing to enforce the written law. We have a border, we have immigration laws, and the federal government has ignored them both.

And only after years of complaint and rising public upset did the government begin to do anything. But even then it was mostly manipulation for political gain. It has been a scripted dance in which the people have demanded and the politicians have manipulated and in the end they get our dollars and our votes and we get the back of their hand. And the illegal immigration problem festers into malignancy while they twiddle their thumbs.

Now there is a bill.

Now, they tell us, is the time to act. And their bill is the only thing that can be acted upon. Negotiated in secret, amended in secret, demanded in public. Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up. It’s time to pull the wool over our eyes and they’re impatient, afraid that delay will lead to scrutiny and defeat.

In the name of helping us, they are about to kill us.

And a tiny group of senators, in league with the president, have agreed to ramrod this through. And to defuse the nation’s roaring disapproval they are taking a tone of authority and power their offices do not provide them.

The president who is sure one more of his stammering speeches will convince the nation to change its mind. The Democrat senator who is essentially calling the American people racists. The Republican senator who is going to “do something” about talk radio, the only place political correctness and government intimidation have not yet completely choked out the voice of the people. All are miffed that the people have not rolled over and obediently accepted the superior enlightenment of the Washington fat cats.

And that’s what brings us to today’s fight. Not just to stop an immigration bill that is poison to our national interests, but to knock down the politicians whose arrogance has presumed they could cram down the throats of average Americans a piece of legislation that every measurement of public sentiment shows they don’t want.

They said “Yes,” we said “No,” now they have raised their voices and furrowed their brows and pointed their fingers and said “Yes” again. It’s as if they are the masters and we are the servants and they have reminded us to know our place.

Well, the fact is we do know our place.

We are at the top of the political food chain. We are the people the Preamble is talking about. We are the United States of America – they aren’t. It is supposed to be government for, of and by the people, not imposed on the people.

The job of every member of Congress is to represent the wishes of the people of his state or district. Period. It is not to impose a will, or coerce an opinion, it is to do what the people want.

And the people don’t want this immigration bill.

Not by a damn sight.

And the president and Congress who do not honor that wish have don’t need a lesson just in immigration policy, they need a lesson in American democracy.

And they are about to get it.

Secure the border. Make it impenetrable. Shut off the influx of illegal aliens. Begin cleaning up the mess in our schools, jails, hospitals and streets caused by illegal aliens. Actively seek and deport illegal aliens and their families, particularly those involved with welfare and crime. Change the 14th Amendment to get rid of anchor babies. Passionately promote a national program of culture and language education and assimilation.

Then, after a couple of years, talk about legalization and pathways.

But secure the border first and foremost.

And actively take down every candidate and party that pushes forward this asinine immigration bill.

Bob Lonsberry


37 posted on 06/24/2007 10:21:32 AM PDT by sheana
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To: new yorker 77

"We're going to take things away from you for the common good."

38 posted on 06/24/2007 10:23:43 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: mewzilla
Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion

"Don'tworry. Read my lips.."

"Besides, we gotta be compassionate...spread the wealth around, ya know?...Heh."

39 posted on 06/24/2007 10:27:03 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: sourcery

Bush was sent to destroy Reagan conservatism. Doing a pretty good job, IMO.


40 posted on 06/24/2007 10:29:10 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: sheana
Good piece. Thanks.

There's a reason why Posse Comitatus was quietly suspended this year.

41 posted on 06/24/2007 10:34:06 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: sheana
Excellent article.

We may have to go to Washington and physically take back 'our' government.

A new ROYALTY has hijacked it, they're calling themselves Republicans and Democrats.

42 posted on 06/24/2007 10:46:02 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: BornInASmallTown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edgPU_F89iQ


43 posted on 06/24/2007 10:51:14 AM PDT by Halcontent
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To: sheana

Very nice commentary.


44 posted on 06/24/2007 11:20:18 AM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: Aria

This is a list of every fax machine in the RNC Building.

Let them know how much this immigration bill is detested by the American People. Hit them where it hurts....their wallets!!!

If enough of us let them know that we expect proper representation in Washington, they will get the message.

Republican National Committee Fax

Chairman (202) 863-8820
Administration (202) 863-8609
Counsel (202) 863-8654
Finance (202) 863-8690
Member Relations (202) 863-8835
Strategy (202) 863-8885
Co-Chairman (202) 863-8631
Communications (202) 863-8773
Political (202) 863-8808
Membership Services (202) 863-8589
eCampaign (202) 863-8851
Government Affairs (202) 863-8877


45 posted on 06/24/2007 12:14:51 PM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: sheana

Bravo, Bob.... well said.


46 posted on 06/24/2007 12:26:52 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: BornInASmallTown

bump


47 posted on 06/24/2007 12:29:30 PM PDT by VOA
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To: BornInASmallTown
>>Most polls show U.S. residents are concerned about border security but favor allowing most illegal immigrants now in the country to gain legal status, the Times reported.<<

Keep shoveling the s***, the politicians will keep eating it up until public outrage grows to a point that it cannot be ignored.


48 posted on 06/24/2007 12:44:59 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
There's a reason why Posse Comitatus was quietly suspended this year.

Didn't know that. Could you show me where it is announced, recorded or something like that?

49 posted on 06/24/2007 2:10:37 PM PDT by Syncro (Gonzo for President! (Hunter Thompson : >)
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To: mewzilla

Don’t believe those numbers....


50 posted on 06/24/2007 2:38:23 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson....IMWITHFRED.COM)
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