Posted on 06/21/2007 8:45:33 AM PDT by LouAvul
PLAINFIELD, New Hampshire (AP) -- To avoid serving prison sentences for tax evasion, Ed Brown and his wife, Elaine, have locked themselves off from the world on their own terms.
From behind the 8-inch concrete walls of their 110-acre hilltop compound, the couple taunt police and SWAT teams and play to reporters and government-haters with references to past standoffs that turned deadly.
Residents want the Browns' circus to end before their small town along the Connecticut River becomes the next Ruby Ridge or Waco.
The Browns raised the specter of the first case, the 1992 shootout at an Idaho property called Ruby Ridge, by holding a news conference Monday with Randy Weaver, whose wife and child were killed there along with a deputy U.S. marshal.
Ed Brown warned authorities they wouldn't take him alive: "We either walk out of here free or we die."
The Browns were sentenced in absentia to 63-month prison sentences in April, after being convicted of conspiring to evade taxes on nearly $1.9 million in Elaine Brown's income and of plotting to disguise large financial transactions.
Though they have refused to leave the compound, U.S. Marshal Stephen Monier insists he has no plans to raid it to make them serve their time and will instead seek a peaceful surrender.
Expert observers praise the authorities' hands-off approach, but patience is wearing thin for Plainfield's 2,400 residents. Town selectmen recently asked Monier to stop the influx of militiamen and other anti-government groups to the Browns' home and to bring the couple to justice.
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Most importantly, how will our fat, bloated politicians fund their lifestyles?
As much as I agree with them, begging for martyrdom is more than just a little stupid.
Don't you just love the media's use of imflammatory adjectives?
Isn't the width of a standard concrete block about 8 inches?
So, I guess I live in a "compound" also. Come and get me coppers!!
Is the media suggesting a “show down”? Waco, IMO, would have ended a lot differently, if we had waited them out.
They should renounce their citizenships, and immediately apply for Z visas. Their taxes are forgiven, and they go on as if nothing ever happened.
There you go. There is always a way out if you look hard enough for it.
They are nutcases,
but they do illustrate that anything the government does is backed by the
INHERENT THREAT OF DEADLY FORCE.
Everyone needs to keep this fact foremost in their minds.
They’re using the threat of deadly force as well.
Nutcases.
No deadly force will be used if the government officials don’t attempt to take their property or liberty.
But, that’s what government exists for.
Looks to me like they picked the wrong hill to die on.
They built a nice prison for themselves. Let 'em enjoy it.
They'll come out when they run out of food.
Or not.
L
All authorities have to do is wait them out. They will have to come out eventually and they will no doubt run out of food and water. I hope the authorities will be patient and not make this another Waco that was under clintin and reno.
All authorities have to do is wait them out. They will have to come out eventually and they will no doubt run out of food and water. I hope the authorities will be patient and not make this another Waco that was under clintin and reno.
They should be locked up. Nobody can get on illegals for breaking the law and say these folks should get off scot-free. Should the tax system be reformed? Yes but breaking the law isn’t the way to do it. These idiots are discrediting a lot of legitimate tax activists.
That's a very important fact. You could reduce it to this: Government is force.
So, when creating legislation, people should ask themselves: "What should a free people be forced to do or to not do?"
That list should be pretty short, IMO.
Of course it does and I support that function of government since I'm not an anarchist. If these people kill a policeman trying to do his duty they're cop-killers.
Both are looneytoons.
Don’t you just love the media’s use of inflammatory adjectives?”
Has the press called John Edwards 20,000 Ft2 place a “compound”?
I hope the authorities will be patient and not make this another Waco that was under clintin and reno.
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This seems more like Ruby Ridge under Bush I/William Barr.
No to be the Holy Grail Nazi, but the line is...
you empty headed food trough wiper
Knowing who owns the courts, and where the judges get their paychecks, what's your point?
These two have set out to make an example of themselves, and seem destined to succeed.
Don't you just love the media's use of imflammatory adjectives?
Isn't the width of a standard concrete block about 8 inches?
So, I guess I live in a "compound" also. Come and get me coppers!!
Why not? I have always lived by and raised my kids by this:
There are 3 ways to react to laws/rules you don’t like.
1. obey them and whine
2. disobey them and face the consequences.
3. work to change them
NOONE is obligated to obey any law they feel is unconstitutional. You just have to answer for your actions.
I wish there were more people in this country who were willing to stand up for what THEY believe is right.
Nuts or not!
My ideal solution if I were running the show.
Stop wasting money surrounding these nutjobs who clearly want a confrontation. Allow local cops keep an eye on them and they’ll eventually expose themselves to an easy confrontation free arrest.
Eric Rudolph is a good example. After spending millions on faild attempts to find and capture him, a local cop stumbles across him and arrests him without incident.
This is almost funny. A good size home, and the owners have guns, therefore it is a compound!!
I am having flashbacks of Waco, Ruby Ridge.
I agree. Wait ‘em out. They aren’t a danger to the community so no need for a raid or siege.
Crooks is what they are, starve them out.
Works for me.
it always boils down to the use of force
When government has the monopoly on force, liberty is no longer
Public school grad?
How hard can it be to get over an 8 inch wall?
If a goat can do it so can a law enforcement employee...oh never mind.
The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun.
R. Buckminster Fuller
Either way...there were unnecessary deaths.
More like conditioning the public for when the feds move in. Normal modus operandi for the feds.
I hope the Browns take out as many Bolsheviks as possible, including the CNN scum that wrote this article.
Clinton knew how to “flush out the women and children in for the greater good”. Never forget.
The MSM will be happy to provide Reno II, live on you TV set.
They’re criminals, plain and simple, and should serve their time, even if they’re dragged out kicking and screaming.
I have no problems with the police moving in....
btt
Oh please, Al Capone they are not.
No doubt. That makes almost every home in Albuquerque a compound. Every yard is fenced with cinder block.
I don't know who "we" is but the ATF never had any intention of serving justice at Waco. They lied to a federal judge in order to get National Guard assistance (the loophole around Posse Comitatus is suspected drug dealing) before they even knocked on the door. So to speak that is because they never even attempted to knock on the door they started out scaling the walls and trying to gain entry through windows unannounced.
Why don’t we just abolish all laws and go with “Whatever you want to do is OK.” Then we won’t have these messy confrontations with law officers. Hey, we won’t even need LEO’s!
We as in our government.
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