Posted on 06/20/2007 11:09:42 AM PDT by AuntB
AG's ex-chief immigration adviser says it makes life in U.S. easier for terrorists
The recasting of the Senate's immigration reform bill as national security legislation is a farce, contends a former chief adviser to the U.S. attorney general, arguing the plan offers alien terrorists easier ways to obtain legal status and carry out attacks on Americans.
"The top priority in this bill is extending amnesty as quickly and easily as possible to as many illegal aliens as possible," writes Kris W. Kobach, professor of law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City and a visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation. "The cost of doing so is to jeopardize national security."
Kobach, former chief adviser on immigration law to Attorney General John Ashcroft, contends it's a "certainty that many more illegal alien terrorists are quietly at work in the United States."
He points out that in fiscal 2005, the Border Patrol apprehended 3,722 aliens from nations designated as state sponsors of terrorism or places in which al-Qaida has operated.
For every alien the Border Patrol apprehended, there likely were three aliens who were not caught, he reasons.
"If so, it is probable that more than 10,000 aliens from high-risk, terrorist-associated countries illegally entered the United States in fiscal year 2005 alone," Kobach writes on the Heritage Foundation website. "Assuming conservatively that only one in 100 was an actual terrorist, that is still over 100 terrorists who snuck across the border in a single year."
Bill co-sponsor Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., claims the legislation will compel all illegal aliens to come forward, and Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez repeatedly has called it a "national security bill," declaring, "We are fixing a national security problem."
Kobach, however, calling it a "national security nightmare," maintains the bill actually will make it easier for the terrorists by allowing them to create fraudulent identities.
Within 180 days after the president signs the legislation, the Department of Homeland Security must start issuing "probationary" Z visas, which require minimal documentation and just one business day. At this point a terrorist can choose from three options: to continue operating as an illegal alien, to obtain amnesty using his real name or to invent a clean identity with the help of the U.S. government.
Continuing to operate as an illegal alien is particularly easy, Kobach points out, if the terrorist lives in a sanctuary city in which police refuse to inform federal authorities when they come in contact with an illegal alien. Most major U.S. cities are now sanctuary cities, including New York City, Los Angeles and Detroit, which has a huge population of Middle Eastern immigrants to provide cover.
Kobach refers to the case of the Fort Dix, N.J., Islamic terrorists, who were arrested in May. The three illegal aliens in the group – who came across the Mexican border – were pulled over a total of 19 times by local police for traffic violations but never reported to Immigration and Customs Enforcement because of sanctuary policies.
"If proponents of the Senate bill were seriously concerned about national security, Kobach writes, "they would include a provision in the bill denying federal law enforcement funds to sanctuary cities. Such a provision would quickly bring the lawbreaking cities back into line."
But Kobach notes that even if an alien terrorist operates outside a sanctuary city, "the bill would not impede his operations."
"Indeed, the Senate immigration bill will make life easier for him by reducing the risk of deportation," he writes, "because the legislation transforms Immigration and Customs Enforcement from a law enforcement agency into an amnesty distribution center."
That's because an ICE agent cannot detain any illegal who appears eligible for the Z visa, which means just about all of them.
Presently, ICE can place the alien in detention and immediately initiate removal proceedings, but under the new legislation, the officer must provide the alien a reasonable opportunity to apply for the Z visa.
So if the alien terrorist is apprehended, he still has two more options, Kobach says. He could obtain the Z visa using his real name, especially if he has been operating underground and is unknown to authorities. It's also possible for him to obtain it if he's known to authorities, because the bill allows the government only one business day to conduct a background check on each applicant.
A background check might be feasible, Kobach writes, "if the government had a single, readily searchable database of all the world's terrorists, but it does not."
Worse, he says, the Government Accountability Office reported in 2006, ICE is already stretched to the breaking point by the approximately 6 million applications for immigration benefits it receives every year.
The situation is so bad, the report says, that that agents have an informal rule in which they are allowed to spend no more than six minutes on each application. The GAO concludes failure to detect fraud is already "an ongoing and serious problem" at the agency.
Moreover, if more than12 million illegal aliens apply for the amnesty within the year allowed, it would triple the incoming workload, from 6 million applications to 18 million.
The third option, to invent a clean identity, is possible because the bill contains no requirement that the alien produce a secure foreign passport proving his identity.
"In other words, a terrorist can declare that his name is 'Rumpelstiltskin,' or perhaps 'Mohammed X,' and most likely, walk out the next day with a probationary Z visa, complete with a government-issued ID card backing up his false identity," Kobach writes.
All the terrorist needs to do is provide two easily forged pieces of paper indicating that a person of that name was in the country before Jan. 1, 2007. A pay stub, bank receipt or a remittance receipt is sufficient – or "a declaration from one of the terrorist's friends that he was in the country before January 1, 2007."
The new identity, backed up by an ID card issued by the federal government, would allow the alien terrorist to obtain driver's licenses and just about any other form of identification he desires, Kobach says.
"This is essentially what the 19 9/11 hijackers did: They used their passports and visas as breeder documents to obtain 63 driver's licenses. The documents allowed them to travel openly and board airplanes easily."
It don’t matter we are looking for legacy here.
I'm thinking of taking that route, and I'm a lifelong citizen. These days, you can never know when an alternate identity or two might come in handy.
When I contacted my legislooters I told them if they pass this thing, I and everyone I know will apply for a “z” visa.
Interesting. This creates all sorts of possibilities for American citizens who want to disappear and change identities or have a second identity. Escaping creditors or getting a new identity with a new credit rating will be pretty easy for a while.
There's some hoops to jump thru. But it doesn't sound all that difficult--in fact, it sounds like they are bending over backwards to make it easy. For example, if you need an attorney to help you, the government pays for it under this bill.
At the point you get a z-visa, you can have a job, own property, have bank accounts, get credit cards. . . the whole schmear. The touchback provision makes it a little difficult. But I suspect that can be greased with a little money while you take a vacation in Mexico--I'm sure there are Mexican officials who could be persuaded you belong in Mexico while you are touching back.
You know, I looked over that section, and it doesn’t seem to explicitly state that you can only ask for a probationary z-visa if you are not currently a citizen.
Anybody want to see if this is true from a legal perspective? I can’t really imagine they meant to allow legal citizens to ask for z-visas , but it seems you can.
CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!
WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!
Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.
I had to keep a current New Zealand passport for ID until I became an American citizen...
I could get a new one at a NZ Consulate when my current one ran out without having to go back to NZ but I could not be without a current one...
After I became a naturalized American citizen, it was my choice if I got an American passport...
I was an American citizen when I deployed overseas so I was able to use just my military ID for ...ID and did not need a passport to travel etc...
It's up to the conservative blogosphere to save it.
There is no freedom without sacrifice.
The U.S.A is the last hope for freedom and justice in the world .
Here is how they hope to destroy the U.S. and with it freedom:
Liberals and Bush want to turn the U.S.A into a socialist Venezuela or a 3rd world country with the passage of this Amnesty bill:
From the Washington Times: Amnesty Bill permits 193 million more aliens from the 3rd world
This is basically the same bill.
It still gives amnesty and the vote to 200 milion 3rd, illiterate 3rd world people.
This is so they can take our jobs, benefits, prosperity, land,liberty and country away.This country is our property.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1850941/replies?c=27
“”If so, it is probable that more than 10,000 aliens from high-risk, terrorist-associated countries illegally entered the United States in fiscal year 2005 alone,” Kobach writes on the Heritage Foundation website. “Assuming conservatively that only one in 100 was an actual terrorist, that is still over 100 terrorists who snuck across the border in a single year.””
Roger Hedgecock just read this on Rush Limbaugh’s show. Still talking about it.
all blocks worked. Only 2nd block need a correction.
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andrew_wilder@kyl.senate.gov, andy_fisher@lugar.senate.gov, angela_stewart@warner.senate.gov, angie_lundberg@Chambliss.Senate.gov, ann_begeman@mccain.senate.gov, ann_loomis@warner.senate.gov, anne_caldwell@shelby.senate.gov,
annelaurie_waters@chambliss.senate.gov, barbara_riley@sununu.senate.gov, beth_pellett_levine@grassley.senate.gov,
beth_stewart@gsmith.senate.gov, beto_cardenas@hutchison.senate.gov, bill_castle@hatch.senate.gov
I wonder if they will profile people based on skin color or eye color when handing out the visas. I'm guessing that blonde-haired blue-eyed visa seekers will be scrutinized more closely which would be an illegal civil rights violation against them.
The ultimate insanity would be throwing legal citizens in jail for applying for z visas. Legal becomes the new illegal and illegal becomes the new legal. Maybe if 100 million citizens applied for the visa it would force them to kill the amnesty program.
Remember after 9/11 when Boosh claimed “youre either with us or the terrorists”
Boosh was with the terrorists the whole time.
You know Al Qaeda is watching the Illegal Alien debate. They probably hooked up with La Raza (the race)
ping
Will that be the phrase after America is raped?
Presently, ICE can place the alien in detention and immediately initiate removal proceedings, but under the new legislation, the officer must provide the alien a reasonable opportunity to apply for the Z visa.
The words just fail me....
If so and only X amount of visa apps are allowed, X³ number of citizens ought apply.
“Interesting. This creates all sorts of possibilities for American citizens who want to disappear and change identities or have a second identity. Escaping creditors or getting a new identity with a new credit rating will be pretty easy for a while.
There’s some hoops to jump thru. But it doesn’t sound all that difficult—in fact, it sounds like they are bending over backwards to make it easy. For example, if you need an attorney to help you, the government pays for it under this bill.
At the point you get a z-visa, you can have a job, own property, have bank accounts, get credit cards. . . the whole schmear. The touchback provision makes it a little difficult. But I suspect that can be greased with a little money while you take a vacation in Mexico—I’m sure there are Mexican officials who could be persuaded you belong in Mexico while you are touching back.”
You dont even need the z visa. The provisional visa prevents any deportation proceeding from going through!
It’s like a get out of jail free card. could stop deportation for 18 months. Even Mohammed Atta could get one.
Do we really need more reasons to call our representatives in Washington, D.C.?
Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!
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Americans should line up for Z Visas if this POS Bill ever passes. Flood the inside the beltway traitors with millions upon millions of applications from real Americans. That will expose them for the liars they are
Roger Hedgecock read it- good. Kris Kobach has 100% credibility. I’ve seen him talking about immigration for about 4 years. Going back to when he worked for John Ashcroft. No way was he going to work for dim bulb Albert Gonzales plus he was probably told he wasn’t welcome anymore
Kris Kobach is 100% solid American from Kansas
“Kris Kobach is 100% solid American from Kansas”
He certainly is!
TITLE VI—NONIMMIGRANTS IN THE UNITED STATES PREVIOUSLY IN UNLAWFUL STATUS
SEC. 601. (a) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, (including section 244(h) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (hereinafter `the Act’) (8 U.S.C. 1254a(h)), the Secretary may permit an alien, or dependent of such alien, described in this section, to remain lawfully in the United States under the conditions set forth in this title.
....only applies to aliens unlawfully in the US
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c110:1:./temp/~c110twRDEo:e652525:
Why be coy....get a couple of hundred or so...and draw multiple social security benefits on all of them....after all...if an illiterate rag-head can do it why not you?
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