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www.sr.se ^ | 06/20/2007 | www.sr.se

Posted on 06/20/2007 6:26:31 AM PDT by WesternCulture

People who have anxiety problems or depression can get just as good help on the Internet as face-to-face with a psychiatrist, according to a Swedish investigation,

Now a new Internet service is being expanded.

This means Sweden will become the first country in the world to offer cognitive behavior therapy via the Internet as a routine method for treating patients who have problems such as social phobias or panic attacks.

Psychiatrists say the online service will compliment traditional care and it means more people can be treated, more cheaply. But critics say sitting at a computer simply can’t be as effective as face-to-face talks with experts.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: internet; internetservices; it; mentaldisorder; mentaldisorders; mentalillness; online; onlineservices; psychiatry; scandinavia; shrink; shrinks; sweden; therapists; therapy

1 posted on 06/20/2007 6:26:33 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Could be Eliza 2.0. A small program from the early ‘80s that mimicked other-directed therapy.


2 posted on 06/20/2007 6:28:34 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

Sounds plausible.


3 posted on 06/20/2007 6:29:17 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Psychiatric Help $0.05. Thanks, Lucy.


4 posted on 06/20/2007 6:30:23 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I shot the Sheriff, but I did not shoot the debutante.)
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To: WesternCulture
This means Sweden will become the first country in the world to offer cognitive behavior therapy via the Internet as a routine method for treating patients who have problems such as social phobias or panic attacks.

People who fear computers and the internet will remain untreated.

5 posted on 06/20/2007 6:30:39 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: WesternCulture
So, how does that make you feel?
6 posted on 06/20/2007 6:34:04 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: WesternCulture

I remember reading about a study several years ago (through Columbia University, I think) in which patients who used a computer terminal based system actually revealed more about themselves and their problems than did the control group who had traditional face to face therapy. It sort of reminds me of the Catholic confession, where you speak to someone from behind a screen.


7 posted on 06/20/2007 6:34:09 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: KarlInOhio

“People who fear computers and the internet will remain untreated.”

- Seriously speaking, that’s probably correct.

However, I think 10 years from now, there will be just as few people who fear computers/internet as there today are people who fear watching TV.


8 posted on 06/20/2007 6:34:53 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

I used Barnabus (Christian-based) services online for marriage counseling and had excellent results. I was working nights/weekends and couldn’t give up precious sleep time to go to a regular counselor. We journaled back and forth. They also offered phone counseling and a chat room....but the journaling was best for me. It was also very affordable.


9 posted on 06/20/2007 6:36:37 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: LIConFem

Is that an open-ended therapeutic question? *chuckle*


10 posted on 06/20/2007 6:37:31 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: LaineyDee
I don't know. How would you feel if it was an open-ended theraputic question?

;o)
11 posted on 06/20/2007 6:38:38 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: WesternCulture

Ahhhhhh, software support nightmares.

Last year a friend of mine upgraded from Girlfriend 4.0 to Wife 1.0 and found that it’s a memory hog leaving few system resources for other applications. He is also now noticing the Wife 1.0 is also spawning Child-processes which are further consuming valuable resources. No mention of this particular phenomenon was included in the product documentation, though other users have informed me that this is to be expected due to the nature of the application.
Not only that, Wife 1.0 installs itself so that it is always launched at system initialization where it can monitor all other system activity. Some applications such as PokerNite 10.3 , Bachelor Party 2.5, and Pubnite 7.0 are no longer able to run on the system at all, causing the system to lockup when launched (even though the apps worked fine before).

Wife 1.0 provides no installation options. Thus, the installation of undesired plug-ins such as Mother-in-law 55.8 and the Brother-in-law Beta is unavoidable. Also, system performance seems to diminish with each passing day.

Some features my friend would like to see in the upcoming Wife 2.0:

A “don’t remind me again” button.
Minimize button.
Ability to delete the “headache” file
An install feature that provides an option to uninstall 2.0 version without loss loss of other system resources.
An option to run the network driver in “promiscuous mode” allowing the the system’s Hardware Probe feature to be much more useful/effective.
I myself wish I had decided to avoid all of the headaches associated with Wife 1.0 by sticking with Girlfriend 3.0 Even here, however, I have found many problems. Apparently you cannot install Girlfriend 4.0 on top of girlfriend 3.0. You must uninstall Girlfriend 3.0 first, otherwise the two versions of Girlfriend will have conflicts over shared use of the I/O port. Other users have told me that this is a long-standing problem that I should have been aware of. Guess that explains what happened to versions 1 and 2.

To make matters worse, the uninstall program for Girlfriend 3.0 doesn’t work very well, leaving undesirable traces of the application in the system. Another identified problem is that all versions of Girlfriend have annoying little messages about the advantages of upgrading to Wife 1.0!

VIRUS ALERT

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FYI: Don’t even think about a shared directory!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 06/20/2007 6:40:50 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: LIConFem
So, how does that make you feel?

- It makes me feel very optimistic regarding my shrink costs. I’m convinced this on line service will be cheaper for some reason...

Seriously, I’ve never understood the point of (more or less) ordinary people consulting shrinks. It’s better to try and find out who you are, what is the right and wrong to do and such things without too much influence from other persons.

Furthermore, I feel like this whole thing is typically Swedish. Sweden, my home country, is always trying to be pioneers in all sorts of fields. Often, this spirit and ambition is a great thing, but in some cases I find it a bit ridiculous.

Regarding on line psychiatry, well, let’s wait and see..

13 posted on 06/20/2007 6:44:34 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: LaineyDee

Nice to hear.

I guess you’re not the only one who’ve had positive experiences from on line counseling. I’ve heard several such stories, even though I haven’t come in close contact with these services personally.

What’s new with this Swedish service is that they’re trying to substitute ‘face to face’ therapy with on line therapy in the cases of people who suffer from mental disorders such as social phobias etc. According to the article, this hasn’t been done before.

Regards.


14 posted on 06/20/2007 6:53:48 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: Just another Joe

Thank’s for the laugh, fellow FReeper!


15 posted on 06/20/2007 6:55:18 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
However, I think 10 years from now, there will be just as few people who fear computers/internet as there today are people who fear watching TV.

You may be partly right. But will there be as many who contemn computers/internet as TV?
16 posted on 06/20/2007 7:03:52 AM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: WesternCulture
I accept Paypal:


17 posted on 06/20/2007 7:22:20 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: caveat emptor
“You may be partly right. But will there be as many who contemn computers/internet as TV?”

- I don’t think so.

The main reason for this is the obvious usefulness of computers/Internet and the interactiveness of this technology (despite various aspects that people complain about).

In today’s society, it’s easier to exist without a TV than without some sort of Internet access.

Due to the differences between TV and Computers, I think watching TV always will be associated with stupidity and Computers with intelligence.

By the way, already in the 1950’s and 1960’s when TV programs in Sweden (my country) often were very ‘educational’ and many programs were of a rather ‘intellectual’ sort, ordinary people called TV ‘The Dumb Box’ (- meaning a stupid activity for stupid people).

18 posted on 06/20/2007 7:58:01 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: LIConFem

I feel you may be “leading” me into a game of ring-around-the-rosie.... *chuckle*


19 posted on 06/20/2007 8:22:30 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: WesternCulture

I cut short my post and didn’t explain that I felt much more open in relating things in my personal life online also. So.... I could definitely see how it would help people with phobias, etc. :)


20 posted on 06/20/2007 8:33:18 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: LaineyDee

“I cut short my post and didn’t explain that I felt much more open in relating things in my personal life online also. So.... I could definitely see how it would help people with phobias, etc. :)”

- I guess you’re right.

Nice talkin’ to ya.


21 posted on 06/20/2007 8:38:55 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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Due to the differences between TV and Computers, I think watching TV always will be associated with stupidity and Computers with intelligence.

Forty years ago , or even 20 years ago there may have been some validity to that viewpoint, but today there is a much greater volume of ignorance and arrogance, if not outright stupidity , on the internet than on TV (stupidity in humans is constant IMO - within, if not across, racial/cultural subgroups).

And getting back to your original time frame (within 10 years), there will be by then just a single technology. New technology which reconfigures pixels to greatly reduce the size/weight of displays is well advanced, and soon every cell "phone" will be a fully functional phone/TV, with clear, crisp movie quality images.

When I first heard of this a couple of years ago I was skeptical - who wants to watch movies on a cell phone, I thought. Well, a good deal of what shows up on the internet is now unavailable to me (think Utube) because I live in the wilderness and have only dialup internet access.

I thought you (swedes) did get a few things right in the 40s and 50s.


22 posted on 06/20/2007 10:05:40 AM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: caveat emptor
“And getting back to your original time frame (within 10 years), there will be by then just a single technology. New technology which reconfigures pixels to greatly reduce the size/weight of displays is well advanced, and soon every cell “phone” will be a fully functional phone/TV, with clear, crisp movie quality images.”

- Yes, a lot of people think so.

I guess PC technology will become more and more integrated with TV technology (and cell phone technology).

Whatever the technology behind it all will be and whatever software will be used, it’s likely we won’t have a PC AND a Plasma/LCD TV, we’ll probably just have multipurpose ‘screens’ so to say and key boards we move around (or, at least, keyboards, printers etc will all be based on wireless technology and hopefully, all units will be more compatible with eachother than they are today).
But what about the hard drive? Will it be integrated with our ‘multipurpose screens’ or a separate unit?

“I thought you (swedes) did get a few things right in the 40s and 50s.”

- Yes, but perhaps we should have joined the NATO?

Regards.

23 posted on 06/20/2007 11:44:16 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
Yes, but perhaps we should have joined the NATO?

Don't you need an army for that? Check out this tough överfurir.

Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against Sweden.I drove (used) Volvos for years, have seen most of Ingmar Bergman's films, and would have one of these if I could afford it. But joining NATO after WWII is a bit of a stretch, and touting the internet as intelligent and TV as stupid is just, well, stupid. Cheerio.


24 posted on 06/20/2007 6:14:57 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: caveat emptor

“touting the internet as intelligent and TV as stupid”

- Do you mean to say that’s what I’ve been doing above?


25 posted on 06/20/2007 11:51:30 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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"touting the internet as intelligent and TV as stupid." Do you mean to say that’s what I’ve been doing above?

If I have misinterpreted your statements, then I apologize.
26 posted on 06/21/2007 10:28:09 AM PDT by caveat emptor
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