'No massacre in Nanking,' Japanese lawmakers say

Reuters, The Associated Press ^ | June 19, 2007

[skinkinthegrass]

TOKYO: About 100 Japanese governing party lawmakers denounced the Nanjing Massacre as a fabrication on Tuesday, contesting Chinese claims that Japanese soldiers killed hundreds of thousands of people after seizing the Chinese city in 1937.

[skinkinthegrass]

...revisionism again.

[cripplecreek]

John Rabe seemed to disagree.

[nyconse]

I’ve seen the pictures. The Japanese were awful. When my Dad’s boss died in the 70’s-his final request no Japanese at his funeral. He was forced to work with some because of the business he was in-he lost a son at the Japanese death camps which killed untold thousands of American soldiers.

[CholeraJoe]

And the US Government didn’t inter thousands of people of Japanese heritage during WWII. Nope, didn’t happen. Pure fabrication.

[skinkinthegrass]

John Rabe seemed to disagree....and he had many picures/photos/drawings/personal accounts......and history on his side.

[Calpernia]

Nanjing Massacre
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1521072/posts?page=39#39

[Calpernia]

This means they won’t be able to join the UN Security Council.

[SmoothTalker]

Scary how much many in modern day Japan deny this and other atrocities and how they try to whitewash them from textbooks, etc. The Rape of Nanking is very well documented. We have pictures. We have testimony from survivors. We have testimony from Japanese soldiers. We have testimony from missionaries in the city. This sort of denial is little different from holocaust denial.

[skinkinthegrass]

thanks, for the thread. :|
they'll never admit, their deeds.

[Joe Boucher]

I am not kind to the Japaneese. I have been there and they still hold nuking them against us because they are not taught many truths about the war and what they did, both to start it and the atrocities they commited both during and before.

[rottndog]

...And Little Man and Fat Boy were only tested on uninhabited atols...

All that fluff about Hiroshima and Nagasaki...pure nonsense.

[OpusatFR]

“I’ve seen the pictures.”

I saw the newsreel of Japanese soldiers throwing Chinese civilians in a hole and burying them alive.

I can’t forget it sixty years later.

[WLR]

What does one have to do with the other?

W

[clamper1797]

No holocaust either

[-=SoylentSquirrel=-]

In San Francisco, on Treasure Island, Is a museum dedicated to the horrors of Japanese war crimes. I am a gung ho, blood & guts kinda guy, but I could only make it through 75% of the exhibits. The atrocities turned my stomach.

[Centurion2000]

About 100 Japanese governing party lawmakers denounced the Nanjing Massacre as a fabrication

Are they going to deny that Pearl Harbor ever happened as well?

[Gideon T. Reader]

.....and the Nazis were hosting the “Spring Fling” for the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto on April 19th 1943.
They even brought in Jurgen Stroop and his SS All Stars Division to play the music to murder by.

Rhetorically, I inquire, why the f-ck cannot these Dumbassed Jap morons realize that history is NOT going away and one cannot massage it.
They did what they did and it has been recorded on paper, on film and everyone in the world knows it. Suck it up, Hiro. You murderous creeps committed war crimes and there is no escape. A fresh coat of paint applied to a shithouse does not make it the Waldorf Astoria.

[Centurion2000]

About 100 Japanese governing party lawmakers denounced the Nanjing Massacre as a fabrication

Are they going to deny that Pearl Harbor ever happened as well?

[BuffaloJack]

I just can’t ever bring myself to trust the Japanese. We trusted Toshiba during the Cold War and they sold our secrets to to the Soviets so that the Soviets could make submarine props that we couldn’t detect.
This is just blatant revisionism.

[Jeff Gordon]

I am happy to see that they cleared that up.

[skinkinthegrass]

And the US Government didn’t inter thousands of people of Japanese heritage during WWII.

...and your point is what?....FDR Admin, was racist....great many Germans/Italians fought agaist the Axis Powers....
only later were the American -Born Japanese permitted to fight for THEIR COUNTRY, TOO!

[aynrandfreak]

I feel sorry for Japanese workers in Beijing. I seem to recall many Chinese people attacking the Japanese workers over recent feelings that Japan was not showing enough remorse over WWII.

[Taichi]

Nanjing happened.
We put Japanese Americans in camps, it happened.
There were lynchings of black people in the South, it happened.
Germany killed millions of Jews and Poles, it happened.
The Spanish Inquisition happened.

We know these horrors and thousands more are true, we can’t deny them. What we can do is move on and try as hard as possible to never do it again.

But when we attempted to pretend they were not real we leave the door open for the horrors to happen again.

[trimom]

And the US Government didn’t inter thousands of people of Japanese heritage during WWII. Nope, didn’t happen. Pure fabrication.

Of course, you are correct. They US did inter Issei and Nissei and that is regrettable. Still, I don't believe you are comparing that to the Rape of Nanjing nor to the atrocities committed on Japanese POW's. Please tell me you aren't making that comparison.

[Major_Risktaker]

About 100 Japanese governing party lawmakers denounced the Nanjing Massacre as a fabrication on Tuesday, contesting Chinese claims that Japanese soldiers killed hundreds of thousands of people after seizing the Chinese city in 1937.

Good thing this was not a Nuclear Weapon.

Nagasaki, in 1945

[teacherwoes]

No holocaust either

I'm waiting for the day when someone claims that World War II never happened.

[Rb ver. 2.0]

This is why when the great Asian war happens, Japan will be raped by China.

[Calvin Locke]

killed hundreds of thousands

It was really only 199,999, not "hundreds of thousands".

And a lot of them were just children, so they shouldn't be counted as full adults...

[elcid1970]

Nothing’s changed with these arrogant Nipponese b@stards!

And World War Two began on August 6, 1945, right?

):^(

[DBrow]

“Are they going to deny that Pearl Harbor ever happened as well?”

It was just the regrettable action of a few “lone nut” pilots with no official ties to any government or terror group.

[Rb ver. 2.0]

How many of those US-Jap internees were worked to death, tortured, maimed for life or just plain shot/bayonetted?

There is no comparison.

[Grizzled Bear]

And the US Government didn’t inter thousands of people of Japanese heritage during WWII. Nope, didn’t happen. Pure fabrication.

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Of course there were Japanese living on the west coast who were sent by their government (Japan) to commit acts of sabotage. It would seem the camps (with good housing, schools, etc...) were the right idea!

Unfortunately we lack the resolve to do the same thing today.

[Bringbackthedraft]

We have testimony from missionaries in the city. This sort of denial is little different from holocaust denial. .................better than that, there was a Nazi
diplomat(Japan's Allie)there that rescued many of the Chinese from being massacred.

[randog]

Are they going to deny that Pearl Harbor ever happened as well?

Well, we weren't going to bring that up, but since you did...

[skinkinthegrass]

Are they going to deny that Pearl Harbor ever happened as well?

...Jimmah Carter; Would have been, over there (in Japan)..."On his knees, Begging for forgiveness, over the metal debris striking the low-flying Japanese (sightseeing :) planes flying over Pearl Harbor at that tme.

the 'Rats, would been denoucing America's Actions

the Klintoons', would have made $$$$$ over (knowningly) selling scrap metal/oil/refined Gasoline/secret technology to Tojo.

[17th Miss Regt]

Are they going to deny that Pearl Harbor ever happened as well?

No, no no! It was the Germans that bombed Pearl Harbor! (source: "Animal House")

[skinkinthegrass]

better than that, there was a Nazi diplomat....that was Rabe.

[DuncanWaring]

Originally published in 1958.

345 pages.

Author was a judge in the Nuremberg trials.

[nyconse]

Yes-I think I saw the picture you are referring to...in the book ‘The Rape of Nanking’.

[Little Ray]

One hundred out of how many? Are these guys nuts or are they the Japanese “mainstream”?

I used to LIKE the idea of the Japanese developing a little nationalistic pride. Now it makes me sick...

[skinkinthegrass]

But when we attempted to pretend they were not real we leave the door open for the horrors to happen again.

agree....Those, who don't learn from history....are doomed to repeat it.

[CatoRenasci]

One of my father’s good friends from boyhood was a Bataan Death March survivor. The man was never the same, and came back with an abiding hatred of the Japanese, and would have nothing to do with them or own any Japanese product. Otherwise a seemingly sane and normal guy, if not physically well (as a result of his experiences).

[Snoopers-868th]

Ghost Soldiers

[andy58-in-nh]

Japanese soldiers threw Chinese babies in the air and caught them on the end of bayonets in Nanking. They used barbed wire to bind the captured Chinese into bundles of ten and tied them onto racks. Then, they poured gasoline on them and burned them alive. You can look it up.

"We took turns raping them. We always stabbed and killed them. When we were raping her, we looked at her as a woman. But when we killed her, we just thought of her as something like a pig." --Azuma Shiro, Japanese soldier.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were earned.

[Frank Sheed]

I should read that, DW. I knew a survivor of the Bataan death march who could never, ever talk about it.

Because of the nukes, the U.S. would not hold a War Crimes Tribunal. It is a shame. The Chinese and the Koreans (everyone conveniently forgets them) suffered horribly. The use of “comfort girls” is still a really sore issue in Korea for the older generation.

F

[TWohlford]

Didn’t South Park, in its episode on 9-11, say that 1/3 of the population are “dumba&&e&”?

Perhaps this is true for the Japanese too.....

[RedStateRocker]

And there are STILL many who deny that what we did in Dresden was an act of terror, pure and simple. Very little military value, much psychological value, a goodly percentage of the worlds great artworks and musical instruments destroyed. Not that the Nazis didn’t start it and are not ultimately responsible, but we did NOT need to firestorm 70-100K civilians to death.

[skinkinthegrass]

It was really only 199,999, not "hundreds of thousands".

An Hundred deaths, is horrible.....after that; a mere statistic.

Stalin....(who ordered 45+ Million Russian Deaths, 1917-1953)

[Bommer]

It appears they are trying to do spin control in advanced release of NanKing due out this year!

[TWohlford]

“...but we did NOT need to firestorm 70-100K civilians to death.”

We did the same to the civilian areas of Tokyo. Depending on whom you talk to, more died with fire bombs than with either nuke.

Then again, the destruction of Tokyo along with Nagasaki and Hiroshima prevented an invasion, and certainly stopped the war before the Soviets could invade.