Posted on 06/17/2007 7:19:24 PM PDT by WOSG
This is a links and activism-central thread to collect the information on the status and effort to defeat the Senate Immigration bill, especially the egregious Z visa amnesty program, in its second attempt at passage.
The Vampire Strikes Back
The nefarious back-room dealers in the US Senate announced on Thursday night that they were bringing the Senate Immigration bill, killed on a previous cloture vote, back from the dead. Senators are trolling for votes. The future of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA hangs in the balance as they try to drum up support for the sellout of the century. WILL GRASSROOTS AMERICA STOP THE TIDE? You decide!
"The immigration system is not "broken," the only thing that is broken is the will to uphold the law. Your administration's lack of will to meet its obligations regarding immigration enforcement is disrespectful toward all American citizens and legal immigrants." - Costa Mesa City council, letter to the President on immigration.
1) SENATE BILL IS UNPOPULAR: Low support for Senate immigration bill. The Senate immigration bill is opposed by a more than 2 to 1 margin (Rasmussen poll): Favor 23%, Oppose 50%. "Sixty-nine percent (69%) of voters would favor an approach that focuses “exclusively on securing the border and reducing illegal immigration.” Support for the enforcement only approach comes from 84% of Republicans, 55% of Democrats, and 69% of those not affiliated with either major party." And why not? Working Americans are not stupid about immigration. Not to mention the politics of Blacks vs immigrants.
2) THE GOP BASE REJECTS THE BILL: Conservative bloggers revolt over immigration - Gee, no kidding. Bush flunkies bashing the base doesn't help any. Ingraham smokes Tony Snow on borders. And Bush's emotions are no way to lead on immigration policy. Bush at all-time low in approval on heels of his support for 'comprehensive' immigration amnesty. Now we see Operation Payback underway. Heather MacDonald on the GOP's Hispanic Delusion. Gerson recites the pro-amensty talking points, and talks down to the right.
3) THE DEALMAKERS PLANS AND THE PROCESS STINKS: NRO: Harry Reid's plan to pass the immigration bill. Bush's $4 billion border bribe tries to buy votes. The key vote is cloture and Sentor Lott pre-announces the plan to sellout America by stripping amendments in conference. The process is an outrage and the product is a monstrosity. Bush's clout is 'all used up' on immigration. Latest update. Good news: It can be stopped.Public pressure has to stop the Senators from getting pulled by the insider-lobbying.
4) SENATE BILL HAS HUGE LOOPHOLES: 20 Loopholes in the Senate immigration bill. Z Visa: Z IS FOR ZERO. ZERO ENFORCEMENT. ZERO DEPORTATIONS. Krauthammer talks sense - why not do the one thing we all agree on? Secure the border first. Micheal Steele says it too; this man should have been our RNC chair, instead of Martinez! Immigration bill is a fraud. Verification issues: Too Much Federal Meddling in verification. Verification that can work. The sham of Jobs Americans won't do.
5) BUSH WHITE HOUSE - Z is for ZERO CREDIBILITY ON IMMIGRATION: What the White House said about the fence - last October. Bush's Top 5 Reason for doing immigration reform. Malkin: Clear the backlogs first and Rules of engagement on why we don't deport criminal aliens.
6) WHAT TO SAY - my communications to Senators:
People want the legal immigration system to work;
we want the border secured and immigration laws enforced, and we do NOT want unlimited
immigration, legal or illegal. The Z visa amnesty/legalization will undercut these pillars, and
voters do not trust the Congress and Government to keep promises on enforcement
that were broken by the 1986 amnesty. To repeat that travesty is a terrible and flawed idea.
The American people no longer trust Washington on this issue; we know 'triggers' are a
hoax, especially since making the triggers more real (Coburn Amendment) was not passed.
The border fence bill was passed (over 80 Senate votes) and signed last year; so why now is
the border fence completion hostage to this wider immigration bill?
The Senate bill is opposed strongly because it pretends to uphold border security
and enforcing the law, but it actually undermines them completely with
the Z visa amnesty/legalization program and its many 'gotchas'.
This Z visa legalization is indeed amnesty, it forgives the real punishment (deportation). The 'fine' is less than
H1B lawyers and fees cost (I work with H1B immigrants in high-tech), so it is more of a processing fee than a fine;
the program is set up for fraud, with pathetic documentation requirements, just as in 1986; Cornyn's
amendment to close off amnesty to absconders and all criminals was denied; this bill allows permanent
(since Z visa is renewable until green card) residency instantly to 12 million illegal immigrants,
majority of them without High School degrees, massively shifting our immigration patterns to the
least skilled and most likely to be dependent; there are no language requirements for 10 years into
a visa that leads to permanent residency. Senator Sessions has compiled 20 loopholes in the
bill, most related to failures in the Z visa program.
This amnesty repeats the mistakes of 1986 on a grand scale, as Senators Cornyn and Hutchison have warned.
It undermines rule of law in immigration, invites huge fraud in amnesty applications and further illegal
immigration via weak document requirements and a mere 24-hour turnaround on provisional acceptance;
crowds out higher-skill legal immigrants; creates a massive increased burden on taxpayers
($2.5 Trillion estimate from Heritage) along with unfunded mandates on states and local Governments.
And for what, exactly? CBO has indicated that illegal immigration in the next 10 years
will still be significant with this bill - a huge amnesty, but more illegal immigration. Pathetic!
The Z visa legalization/amnesty is a slap in the face to legal immigrants, taxpayers,
and anyone who cares about the rule of law.
AmericaOne
Here is the thread you suggested...
Now lets get all the contact and “WARROOM” info collated.
THIS IS THE PRO-AMNESTY TEAMS GAME PLAN - THIS WEEK IS CRITICAL:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MmJiMzVmZTZjNjE2ZWM4MDhiMWYzYTI3NjQ1ZjU4NmE=
Here is what we expect to happen next week, though it is far from clear yet. In short, we expect it to come up this week, and if Senators (as we expect) object to unanimous consent agreements, it will take the better part of 6-8 days to get this done. They will not get it done this week (but Reid threatens to stay in next weekend).
1. We expect Reid, in conjunction with support from McConnell, Lott and Grand Bargainers Kyl, Martinez, Graham and McCain, to introduce a brand new piece of legislation - and use Rule 14 to put the bill immediately on the Senate calendar without going thru committee - which of course, the first bill did not do as well.
* It is possible that Reid will choose a different procedural path - but we expect the effect to be the same.
2. We expect that the new bill’s drafters (White House, Kennedy, Kyl, Graham, et. al.) will use close to the same language as the original substitute amendment (the first immigration bill) as amended by the 14 Democrat and 13 Republican amendments adopted the the first go round.
3. A new Rule 14 bill takes 1-2 days to ripen, and then we expect Reid to file cloture on the motion to proceed (a step he will need to take because numerous Senators are objecting to any unanimous consent agreements). The cloture motion takes time to ripen, so that adds a full day and change before the vote (60). Then, there is 30 hours of “post cloture debate” that a number of Senators will refuse to allow to be shortened.
4. When the 30 hours expire, Reid will have the vote on the motion to proceed to the bill (majority).
4. Once on the bill, Reid will again file cloture (to shut off debate - again, a number of Senators will continue to object to unanimous consent agreements) - this time on the bill itself.
5. The guessing begins at this point - but we expect Reid - with the help and support of certain Republican leadership and the Grand Bargainers - to do something that we believe has never been done in the history of the Senate... he will use an arcane Senate procedure that allows a single amendment to be divisible into many - in this case, into the 20-odd amendments the Grand Bargainers are trying to cobble together to keep 60 votes in support of the bill. Traditionally, that amendment has been used to protect minority rights - but in this case, it will be used to PREVENT the minority from getting additional amendments called up and from being able to fully debate the amendments in question. It is, to our knowledge, unprecedented.
6. Once the cloture motion ripens (again, another day and change), the cloture vote can occur (60 votes) and then, again, there is 30 hours of “post cloture debate” during which Reid will run, in order, through the panoply of amendments offered by way of the division.
7. Finally, there will be a vote on final passage.
If Reid does this, with the help of certain Republican leadership and the Grand Bargainers, they will shut off the ability of Senators with concerns of the bill to offer additional amendments and to debate the amendments in question.
In the end, this means that if they have 60 lined up to support it - there is little that can be done procedurally - so it has become far more important than ever for Senators to hear from their constituents.
McConnell says immigration is too close to call:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/17/AR2007061700609.html
“When we get to final passage, it’s hard to know whether the votes will be there to pass it or not,” McConnell said. “We’ll finish Senate consideration of the immigration bill one way or the other.”
From Numbers USA - Phoning and faxing made the difference:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1851804/posts
“The following are the Senators whom we are feeling quite good about. You should find ways to thank them for being so sensitive to the needs of your state’s workers and communities and urge them to just fight harder to stop S. 1348.
(* in front of Senators up for re-election in 2008.)
The KILL BILL Caucus
DEMOCRATS (8) * Baucus (MT) Byrd (WV) Dorgan (ND) * Landrieu (LA) McCaskill (MO) Tester (MT) * Pryor (AR) * Rockefeller (WV)
REPUBLICANS (19) * Alexander (TN) * Allard (CO) Bond (MO) Bunning (KY) Coburn (OK) Corker (TN) * Cornyn (TX) Crapo (ID) DeMint (SC) * Dole (NC) * Enzi (WY) Grassley (IA) * Inhofe (OK) * Roberts (KS) * Sessions (AL) Shelby (AL) * Smith, G. (OR) Thune (SD) Vitter (LA)
A special hero’s garland should drape four Senators who have been absolutely courageous leaders in battling the power of the White House and of the Democratic Party Leadership — and taking incredible abuse from most of the elite national news media.
THE HEROIC LEADERS Sessions (R-Ala.) Dorgan (D-N.D.) DeMint (R-S.C.) Vitter (R-La.)
If all 98 Senators vote, we will need 39 NO votes on cloture to kill this bill.
Congratulations to all of you in the states of these 27 Senators. But we have to get 12 more for sure. Right now, I see 13 others who look like really good possibilities if their constituents can just give them the right message in sufficient quantity. And there are another half-dozen or so who are not out of the question. “
There is a disturbance in the force.
Count me in on this one, even though overseas at present.
El Presidente works tirelessly, and will not stop until our country is totally screwed! We must work twice as hard to persuade our lawmakers. I fear the senate is a lost cause, but I’m sure this monstrosity can be killed in the house.
God, I wish El Presidente would have put this much fight and effort into social security reform, among other things.
I was watching UNITED 93 last night, and I have not stopped crying and yelling in rage at my TV.
How dare these congress people allow our immigration to run amok .. how dare they scoff at us and tell us to shut up .. when they have already forgotten the people WHO DIED TO SAVE YOUR SORRY REAR ENDS.
They don’t deserve OUR VOTES or OUR MONEY .. and until they put America first and not the Mexican govt (and the democrats) .. they will get neither from me. And .. I’m not alone in this sentiment.
PING for “Kill Bill II: The Vampire Strikes Back (Fight the Senate Immigration Bill)”
More #s (courtest of 2ndDivVet and TennesseeNana):
A toll free number for any member of the US Senate or House...(888) 534-6226
U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep
Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!
WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!
Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.
PING! Via Laura Ingraham ...
http://lauraingraham.com/
Below is the list of 15 GOP senators that the amnesty pushers want to flip to their side (asterisked senators are up for re-election in 2008)
* * Alexander (R-TN)
* Bennett (R-UT)
* * Cochran (R-MS)
* * Coleman (R-MN)
* * Collins (R-ME)
* * Cornyn (R-TX)
* * Craig (R-ID)
* * Domenici (R-NM)
* Gregg (R-NH)
* Hatch (R-UT)
* Hutchison (R-TX)
* Kyl (R-AZ)
* Lott (R-MS)
* * McConnell (R-KY)
* Murkowski (R-AK)
* * Smith (R-OR)
* Snowe (R-ME)
* Stevens (R-AK)
* * Warner (R-VA)
Illegal-Immigration Activism Ping...
A good source for the ‘skinny’ on the Vampire Strikes Back bill...
http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/06/the_inside_story_on_whats_happ.php
“My source also noted that the cloture vote to end debate will be the “real” vote on the bill because if debate is closed off, the bill is sure to pass. Then, what will happen is that the votes for the bill will be counted, and a few Senators who are afraid that their election prospects will be jeopardized by a “yes” vote, will be allowed to vote against the bill. This enables those Senators to tell their constituents that they voted against the bill, but it will still allow them to collect campaign contributions from lobbyists who have a better understanding of how things work, and know that the bill couldn’t have been passed without their support. Put another way, they get to reap the rewards of supporting amnesty while telling the voters in their home states that they opposed the bill.
My source also let me know that the White House and the Senate leadership, and Trent Lott in particular, are pushing very hard for this bill.”
Thanks. Kill Bill II BUMP!
George: STIFLE!
Bttt!
Yahoo only allows you to send to a certain number of people at once (hence the multiple blocks of email addresses, instead of one block) and will also only let you send a certain number
of emails in a time period. I was only allowed to send two blocks in a row. Make emails of all blocks and after sending two, save the others as a "draft" to send later when yahoo let's you do so.
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http://www.theabsurdreport.com/2007/warning-immigration-reform-round-two-is-here/
Grassfire info.
Call these Senators and say you oppose this “Amendments for Amnesty” deal.
Sen. Durbin (202)224-2152
Sen. Obama (202) 224-2854
Key Senators to call:
McConnell 202/224-2541
Lott 202/224-6253
Kyl 202/224-4521
Brownback 202/224-6521
Burr 202/224-3154
Chambliss 202/224-3521
Cornyn 202/224-2934
Hutchison 202/224-5922
Isakson 202/224-3643
Warner 202/224-2023
Webb 202/224-4024
Talking Points (Your calls will carry more weight if you are
polite and respectful!):
1. I understand that Senate leaders are working on a back-room deal that will bring the Amnesty bill back for a vote in exchange for consideration on certain amendments.
2. I oppose this “Amendments for Amnesty” deal.
3. If you support this deal, then you will forever be listed as a supporter of amnesty.
4. The American people have spoken in opposition to this amnesty bill. I urge you to oppose this deal and the bill.
Yes, see also this link:
http://www.outsourcecongress.org/outsource/congress/schstaffers.html
This is a very effective way to capture the STAFFER emails for Senators and send a message to them.
I sent a message individually to each Senator’s staff list, so I could address as follows:
“
I am writing to ask you and Senator McConnell to vigorously and publicly oppose
the inherently flawed Senate immigration bill. A cloture vote is a “YES” vote on the bill itself.
Senator McConnell needs to vote “NO” on immigration bill cloture votes, and he needs
to disassociate himself from the notorious back-room deal-makers concocting this stinker.
Senator McConnell is both harming America and destroying the Republican party’s
position in advancing this flawed and very unpopular bill. I expect several Republican
incumbents will lose in 2008 if this bill is passed, and my mind boggles at how out-of-touch
inside-the-beltway politicians are to the level of rejection of this bill among voters.”
WOSG, thanks for the Ping,
Yes that number (888) 534-6226 is a good one...
Just ask the switchboard operator for the senator or congressman/woman of your choice etc...
Have another name ready in case she says that the line is busy ....which happened a lot last week...
The operators are most cooperative...Stay nice..
I don’t see my Senators in that list (NC).
Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!
U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep
Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
http://www.charlotteconservative.com/index.php/2007/06/proof-amnesty-is-a-scam/
PROOF AMNESTY IS A SCAM:
“Senator Jim DeMint, Republican of South Carolina, welcomed the president’s support for more spending on border security, but said,
“There’s no reason why we should be forced to tie amnesty to it.”
Jum DeMint just summed up the entire line of thinking I myself have.
The sellouts in Congress and our president say they will “protect the border” and provide “tamperproof work id systems” and “technological fence”.
Now can anyone tell me the reason we need amensty for 12 million criminals for these three proposals to work on their own?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I’d be most surprised is Cornyn went for the AMNESTY Bill.....
My Sen Alexander has lots of TN people upset in varying shades....
BTTT
Great list of Email addresses....
JMHO : Louisiana is a solid NO,,,I doubt they will flip.
Illegal Immigration Facts and Figures:
10.4 million illegal aliens reside in the United States.
(source: Pew Hispanic Center)
Every year, 500,000 additional illegal aliens enter the United States (source: Pew Hispanic Center)
California’s nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9 billion each year (source: Federation for American Immigration Reform)
Illegal aliens cost the federal government $10 billion more annually than they pay in taxes.
(source: Center for Immigration Studies)
Taxpayers pay $750 million annually to house the 18,000 illegal aliens in California prisons.
(source: US Govt. Accounting Office)
These dirty Bastids are determined to destroy us,
PING - “Kill Bill II: The Vampire Strikes Back (Fight the Senate Immigration Bill)”
Sen Inhofe’s petition thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1850980/posts?page=72
“U.S. Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.) today announced “Secure Borders Now” (www.SecureBordersNow.com), a new website for Americans to urge the Senate to consider immigration reform that focuses on enforcing existing border security laws and opposition to amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants.”
Burr and Dole are pretty Good. I checked their amendment vote records over the weekend.
There is a blog that has a record on all the Senators and their likelihood of switching. I’ve lost track of it however.
I am trying to find it.
NUMBERS USA Senate action center:
http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/senateaction0507.html
US SENATE CONTACT INFO - PHONE, WEB EMAIL, FAX, MAIL:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
That’s a great site ya’ll have! I don’t know how I missed it.
Thanks, but the credit should really go to Freeper caphillbabe who compiled all of the email addresses, names, and titles of Senate staffers. I only parsed her list for the addresses to make quick, bulk emailing possible. Freeper furgan took my huge list (which email programs balked at) and broke it into smaller blocks that yahoo allows.
You can see caphillbabe's list here at comment #6
BTTT
Longer list....
PING - “Kill Bill II: The Vampire Strikes Back (Fight the Senate Immigration Bill)”
Senate Bill S.1348 information:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SN01348:
CBO has a cost estimate:
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdoc.cfm?index=8179&type=0&sequence=0
This is far less than the Heritage cost estimate, which is $2.5 TRILLION over next 25 years.
WHERE THE SENATORS STAND (maybe)
http://noamaskew.blogspot.com/2007/06/cloture-vote-guesses-hunt-for-60.html
List of those who voted against cloture last time and how likely they are to switch to vote in favor of cloture next time (assuming there is a next time for this bill)...The bill needs 15 more cloture votes to continue...
Very Likely to Switch
Kyl (R-AZ)-coalition member
Lott (R-MS)—pushing hard for bill; willing to “reign in” dissenters
McConnell (R-KY)-pushing hard for bill
Craig (R-ID)—has said he will
Likely to Switch
Boxer (D-CA)—voted in favor of bill last year
Collins (R-ME)—voted in favor of bill last year
Snowe (R-ME)—voted in favor of bill last year
Domenici (R-NM)—voted in favor of bill last year
Murkowski (R-AK)—voted in favor of bill last year
Stevens (R-AK)—voted in favor of bill last year
Could very well switch
Smith (R-OR)—voted for bill last year, but could be up for a tough re-election...
Alexander (R-TN)—voted against cloture last time
Gregg (R-NH)—voted in favor of bill last year
Bingaman (D-NM)—voted in favor of bill last year—but has been a little more critical now...
Bennett (R-UT)—voted in favor of bill last year
Hatch (R-UT)—voted in favor of cloture last year
Cochran (R-MS)—voted in favor of cloture last year
Toss-ups
Warner (R-VA)—up for re-election; voted for bill last time, but, w/Webb, he might not switch
Sanders (I-VT)—who knows! He’s independent!
Coleman (R-MN)—up for re-election; voted for bill last time, but has been more critical now
Isakson (R-GA)— the Georgians are tough: both voted against cloture before
Chambliss (R-GA)— but are more favorable to ultimate bill now....
Pryor (D-AR)—up for re-election; voted in favor of bill last year, but more critical now....
Could Very Well not Switch
Hutchison (R-TX)—voted against cloture last year (but also against bill)
Webb (D-VA)—new but has been somewhat skeptical
Rockefeller (D-WV)—has been a skeptic with Byrd
Tester (D-MT)—seems skeptical....
Baucus (D-MT)—up for re-election; also seems skeptical (even though he voted for bill last time)
Ensign (R-NV)—seemed at one point slightly favorable to bill, but it’s hard to say....
Somewhat Unlikely to Switch
Corker (R-TN)—new but still seems skeptical
Cornyn (R-TX)—up for re-election; voted against bill last time
McCaskill (D-MO)—new but still seems skeptical
Landrieu (D-LA)—up for re-election; voted against bill last time
Very Unlikely to Switch
DeMint (R-SC) signed enforcement letter to president
Dorgan (D-ND)—voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Bunning (R-KY)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Burr (R-NC)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Byrd (D-WV)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Sessions (R-AL)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Shelby (R-AL)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Sununu (R-NH)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Crapo (R-ID)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Dole (R-NC)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Vitter (R-LA)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Grassley (R-IA)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Thune (R-SD)——voted against cloture last year; consistent bill skeptic
Allard (R-CO)—voted against cloture last year
Bond (R-MO)—voted against cloture last year
Inhofe (R-OK)—voted against cloture last year
Roberts (R-KS)—voted against cloture last year
Missed Last Cloture
Enzi (R-WY)—often misses votes on clotures for immigration bills—has missed votes for last year’s cloture and this year’s...
Brownback (R-KS)—sends a lot of mixed signals, but seems—sometimes—in favor of bill...
Coburn (R-OK)—probably against cloture
Johnson (D-SD)—unlikely to vote at all (ill health)
Maybe add a note on the bricks that these are ALL they will get contribution-wise until the duplicity stops, the border is secured and enforcement (years overdue) get a real priority.
THEN we'll talk about other facets of "comprehensive" "immigration ""reform" (each word in that term being suspect at present).
http://noamaskew.blogspot.com/
Also report a TRILLION DOLLAR LOOPHOLE!
“June 15, 2007 (Washington, DC) – The immigration bill being debated by the Senate would allow over two million illegal workers who received Social Security numbers prior to 2004 to receive more than $966 billion in Social Security benefits by 2040.
Despite a provision in the bill that would prevent individuals who performed illegal work and then obtained a Social Security number after 2007 from receiving credit for Social Security taxes paid in previous years, the legislation does nothing to prevent aliens who illegally obtained “non-work” Social Security numbers prior to 2004 from claiming benefits. “
“As President Bush makes himself a central player in immigration debate, a newly released Rasmussen poll puts support for his handling of the immigration issue at 15%. This result comes at a time when, again according to Rasmussen, only 20% of the American public wants the Senate to return to the current “grand bargain” bill;”
http://noamaskew.blogspot.com/2007/06/as-president-bush-makes-himself-central.html
Elizabeth Dole sent out an email last week — she is firmly in the NO on Immigration side — not going to sway her. She even said in her email that forces were going to be against her in the election but it didn’t make her any difference, she was opposed to the bill! It was a strong email.
Also from same source:
“The Republicans he [Pres. Bush] will likely be targeting include Johnny Isakson and Saxby Chambliss, both of Georgia, who were closely involved in drafting the deal but have yet to fully commit, and perhaps John Ensign of Nevada and John Cornyn of Texas, who are undecided.”
PLEASE REPORT HERE AS TO WHETHER YOUR SENATOR IS SOLID AGAINST CLOTURE ON THIS BILL OR NOT.
THE CLOTURE VOTE IS THE KEY VOTE!
Dr. Coburn had surgery but will be back in time for this vote.
Senators Inhofe and Coburn from OK are 100% opposed to the bill and will vote against cloture.
I expect both TX Senators to be on the side of Inhofe and Coburn when the final vote is taken. Kay Bailey did not look happy being with the President last week since she escorted him as the ranking TX Senator.
Good job on this thread. You have the free fax and outsourcecongress.org Senate/House staffer e-mail directory links up.
Hopefully, people will bookmark this thread and come back to it when they are going to do some activism concerning Amnesty.
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