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GOPers seek emergency funds as immigration bill languishes
The Hill ^ | June 13, 2007 | Manu Raju and Elana Schor

Posted on 06/13/2007 9:55:28 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

Senior GOP senators are embracing an eleventh-hour plan to pass an emergency supplemental bill for more border security money as a strategy to win over Republicans who have balked at the bipartisan immigration bill languishing in the Senate.

But even as the emergency-spending approach gained momentum yesterday during President Bush’s rare visit to the Senate, the immigration bill’s strongest supporters warned that time is running out for an agreement to bring the measure back to the floor...

Senate GOP Conference Chairman Jon Kyl (Ariz.), along with Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott (R-Miss.), said they supported the idea of pushing ahead with an emergency supplemental...

At a minimum, aides said, the Republicans are seeking full funding for the border-security barriers and employer verification system authorized by this year’s immigration bill; the border fence approved by last year’s GOP-controlled Congress; and the thousands of new Border Patrol and customs enforcement agents authorized in 2004 but not yet paid for...

Bipartisan negotiations over the measure continued through yesterday, and aides and senators said they were nearing a dozen amendments to present to Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) in the hopes he would schedule floor time before the July 4 recess. Kyl, an influential emissary between conservatives and immigration negotiators, met late yesterday with a core group of allies to discuss a list of about a dozen desired amendments that Republicans could present to Reid.

The list, one Republican aide said, would cover “senators who needed to be heard and policy changes that appeal to our folks.” Yet it remains unclear whether votes on those dozen changes would secure enough Republican votes to overcome continued objections from a few stalwart opponents of the bill...

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; baitandswitch; duplicity; immigrantlist; scaretactics; vampirebill
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Cover Senators who need to be heard? Heard saying what, that they have been duped? What kind of cover is anyone going to be able to use if they vote for this bill under such circumstances.
1 posted on 06/13/2007 9:55:31 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

Why not just pass the border security bill and forget about the comprehensive amnesty bill?


2 posted on 06/13/2007 10:59:16 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: 3AngelaD

The contempt for our intelligence is remarkable!


3 posted on 06/13/2007 11:02:12 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: 3AngelaD

Read the Roll Call alert.
The bill is back !


4 posted on 06/13/2007 11:02:19 AM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: 3AngelaD
At a minimum, aides said, the Republicans are seeking full funding for the border-security barriers and employer verification system authorized by this year’s immigration bill; the border fence approved by last year’s GOP-controlled Congress; and the thousands of new Border Patrol and customs enforcement agents authorized in 2004 but not yet paid for...

It's starting to sink in. Enforcement of current laws, enforcement at the border first.

5 posted on 06/13/2007 11:02:24 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: stephenjohnbanker

They are so used to the way they do biz in D.C. that they think they can throw a little pork at the American public to make the amnesty go down. Disgusting that it is OUR money to start with!
I called McConnell’s office and told them this exact thing and....what part of NO don’t they understand?
The whole bunch of them disgust!


6 posted on 06/13/2007 11:04:13 AM PDT by sheana
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To: 3AngelaD
...Vaseline®
7 posted on 06/13/2007 11:04:22 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: 3AngelaD

Forget the money, send the senators to the border with shotguns, and tell them to seal it!


8 posted on 06/13/2007 11:05:39 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: oblomov

They did pass the immigration bill. October 26, 2006.


9 posted on 06/13/2007 11:06:23 AM PDT by listenhillary (Conservatives -- We're NOT DEAD YET !!!)
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To: 3AngelaD
Senior GOP senators are embracing an eleventh-hour plan to pass an emergency supplemental bill for more border security money as a strategy to win over Republicans who have balked at the bipartisan immigration bill languishing in the Senate.

Can anybody be more obvious about tossing a bone? I don't like being pandered to.

10 posted on 06/13/2007 11:06:54 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: sheana

“The whole bunch of them disgust!”

That they do!


11 posted on 06/13/2007 11:08:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

hehe I forgot the me


12 posted on 06/13/2007 11:09:02 AM PDT by sheana
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To: 3AngelaD

Lott phone was busy all my lunch hour. Finally got his machine and left a little mean message for him.

I am thinking of going to Sams and buying an industrial size case of toilet paper to ship to him, with an note, “Something to clean up with as you send our country down the drain”.


13 posted on 06/13/2007 11:09:25 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (GOP (1861-2007))
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To: 3AngelaD

Of what use is “more security money” to an administration that refuses to spend what it already has to protect the border, and instead, sends border agents to prison?? “Hello? Hello? Anyone home, McFly?”


14 posted on 06/13/2007 11:10:09 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: stephenjohnbanker

America will have a futiure when the disgust reaches a point that we remove the whole stinking bunch and replace them with ordinary folks and not down on their luck lawyers and rich peckerheads witn royalty complex’s


15 posted on 06/13/2007 11:11:28 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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To: sgtbono2002

“America will have a futiure when the disgust reaches a point that we remove the whole stinking bunch and replace them with ordinary folks and not down on their luck lawyers and rich peckerheads witn royalty complex’s”

We need a MAJOR house sweeping!!


16 posted on 06/13/2007 11:12:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: 3AngelaD
The irony is July 4th is coming up and I'm wondering what there will be to celebrate if this bill passes.
I believe the senators should go home and then come back after July 4th, full of patriotism and forget shamnesty, and instead tell the illegals they have 90 days to get out, pass a border security bill removing anchor babies from citizenship, million dollar fines to employers of each illegal. (10 illegals employed = 10 million dollar fine). I would love to see the senators do something with teeth to protect and defend America not something to give America to people who aren't citizens...(In Other Words - surrender).

I know I'm dreaming but we all need something to believe in. I suppose what I believe in is a folly, but I once believed senators cared about the nation and the nation's citizens. No longer do I believe this. Instead, I know senators work for foreign governments and invading armies. Our senators need white flags to wave. I'm thinking of sending my two their own little white flags.

17 posted on 06/13/2007 11:13:24 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Sybeck1

Off the phone with Sen Norm Coleman’s DC office assistant.
He said they were VERY busy fielding calls against the Amnesty bill, and that the Senator is dead set against it, having voted against cloture twice last week and will oppose it if it comes back to life.


18 posted on 06/13/2007 11:13:50 AM PDT by Gideon T. Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American. PALESTINIANS: A proud history of mindless violence since 1964.)
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To: 3AngelaD

This is amazing. whew


19 posted on 06/13/2007 11:14:05 AM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER (The U.S. Constitution has been Reduced to a Meaningless Document.)
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To: ozarkgirl

Have you read the Roll Call article.
GOP leaders are bringing the Bill back with new threats for opposing senators !
Call or Fax Mitch McConnell and tell him what you think .


20 posted on 06/13/2007 11:18:59 AM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: PEACE ENFORCER
Read the Roll Call piece and my reply to Ozark Girl.
The BIll is back and new threats are being thrown out by Jorge and McConnell.
21 posted on 06/13/2007 11:20:20 AM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: From One - Many

Patriotism? You think any of them put their country before their own political power? Maybe a few of them would, if it were expedient.

The elected members of the Socialist Party and their RINO allies have shown repeatedly they will sell out their country in the pursuit of personal power.


22 posted on 06/13/2007 11:20:44 AM PDT by henkster (The dems have reserved your place on the collective farm.)
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To: 3AngelaD

23 posted on 06/13/2007 11:23:51 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: sgtbono2002
Really, a great, cleansing flood needs to wash through D.C. It isn't just the elected pols, although they are the biggest problem. We also have lousy political appointees, bureaucrats, some lobbyists (I'm somewhat sympathetic to this bunch given the protection racket that is being run by Congress), and the piles of lawyers that are mostly in it for themselves. It is almost to the point where D.C. is no longer a part of this country.
24 posted on 06/13/2007 11:24:56 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (We need a third party to return to a two-party system.)
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To: BurtSB
Have you read the Roll Call article.

Could you provide a link?

25 posted on 06/13/2007 11:26:25 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (We need a third party to return to a two-party system.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Is there some reason they can’t use the funds and build the fence?
You know, that Bill written by Hunter and signed into LAW by Bush last year.


26 posted on 06/13/2007 11:26:31 AM PDT by Build_The_Fence (Mr. Bush....tear up that Bill)
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To: oblomov
Why not just pass the border security bill and forget about the comprehensive amnesty bill?

As stated by Robert Novak,

"President Bush did himself no favors last week by denouncing those opposed to the immigration bill as uninterested in the nation's well-being. On its own, the decision to combine border security with naturalization of illegal immigrants has always been the President's way of holding a national priority (security) hostage to a policy (legalization) that he views as desirable. "

27 posted on 06/13/2007 11:27:46 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: 3AngelaD
How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

I Like Ike.

The immigration giveaway

Take the Pledge: "I pledge to never, ever vote for anyone, for any office, who votes in favor of the Mexican Invasion Surrender Bill."

28 posted on 06/13/2007 11:29:52 AM PDT by sourcery (Double Feature: "The Amnestyville Horror" and "Kill the Bill, Vol. 2")
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To: oblomov
Why not just pass the border security bill and forget about the comprehensive amnesty bill?

Congress passed and George Bush signed the Border Fence Bill last year, which allocated $1.2 billion to Chertoff and his DHS to get started on the first 700 miles. By all reports little if any progress has been made to date, and Chertoff was recently quoted as saying "Ask your Congressman" when questioned about that lack of progress.

In 2005 George Bush requested and was given funds for 2,000 new Border Patrol officers per year for 5 years beginning in Jan 2006. In February 2006, the Bush budget included funding for only 216 new BP officers.

In May 2006, George Bush was provided with $1.98 billion emergency funding for border security, including funding for 1,000 new BP agents. Bush also requested funding for a total of 6,000 new officers by the end of calendar 2008. That funding was again approved.

To date DHS has been able to hire 1,800 new recruits.

The money for border security has repeatedly been authorized since 2005, but only marginal to extremely poor results have been forthcoming.

29 posted on 06/13/2007 11:34:02 AM PDT by angkor
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Specifically with Congress I’ve been calling it for thirty-five years “Flush The Congressional Bowl”. Sufficiently so that we can replace the “Bowl” with something without a “Pull chain”. The inbred clique of the Political Class has to be dispersed.


30 posted on 06/13/2007 11:38:30 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 3AngelaD
while 10 Democrats and one independent joined 39 Republicans to continue debating the measure

Neglected in the article as usual in "The Hill" is any mention of why 10 Democrats and one Independent Senator, Sen. Sanders (I-VT) voted against cloture on the Senate bill. The reason for the 10 Democrats voting against cloture is pressure from the AFL-CIO to the 'guest worker' portions of the bill. Independent Senator Bernie Sanders voted against cloture for two reasons; first the objection of AFL-CIO; and second to protect a package of small business & farmer tax incentives he and former Congressman Joe Barton sponsored and passed in the last Congressional Session in the House of Representatives (In March of 2006). Portions of that previously approved House bill were inserted in the Senate shamnesty immigration bill to draw support from conservative Senators. Sanders objected to that language to protect similar legislation he introduced in the Senate as a stand-alone bill without the unrelated, contentious issues included in the shamnesty bill. The Barton-Sanders small business/farmer relief bill passed overwhelmingly in the House in early 2006 garnering 348 votes from both sides of the aisle. The Senate, in their typical dithering fashion, has sat on the same bill since last March.

While the promoters in the Senate of the bill may claim they can put pressure on disenting Republicans to bend to the will of the Senate to pass a bill, they will also have to overcome the objections of the dissenting Democratic Senators, particularly Sens. Byrd & Rockefeller of West Virginia, who are both experts in using arcane and/or misunderstood parliamentary procedures in the Senate to thwart the will of a majority. You can be sure, under the radar, that conservative Republicans opposed to the Senate bill are consulting with these Senators and/or their senior staffers regarding just such maneuvers. My gut feel is that this bill may still not pass in the Senate given the amnesty portions of the bill generally favored by business groups, and the guest worker portions of the bill opposed by labor unions. If the bill somehow is passed in he Senate it will see much more opposition in the House from both sides of the aisle.
31 posted on 06/13/2007 11:38:36 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: 3AngelaD
and the thousands of new Border Patrol and customs enforcement agents authorized in 2004 but not yet paid for

Makes you feel real comfortable about the enforcement issues they're talking about nowadays.
32 posted on 06/13/2007 11:43:37 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: angkor

“To date DHS has been able to hire 1,800 new recruits.”

“Get a job, go to jail”

Nice job : )


33 posted on 06/13/2007 11:50:23 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: rockinqsranch

“Specifically with Congress I’ve been calling it for thirty-five years “Flush The Congressional Bowl”. “

Good idea!!


34 posted on 06/13/2007 11:51:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: 3AngelaD
It's also worthwhile noting the reluctant and stubborn attitude which George Bush's White House expresses toward border security measures.

In at least two border security summary announcements released by the White House, there have been extraneous and irrelevant cautionary comments which demonstrate a real resistance to necessary security measures. To wit:

Office of the Press Secretary
October 18, 2005
Fact Sheet: President Bush Signs Homeland Security Appropriations Act

[snip]

Because Enforcement Alone Will Not Work, The President Has Proposed Comprehensive Immigration Reform. If an employer has a job that no American will take, we need a way to fill that demand by matching willing employers with willing workers from a foreign country on a temporary and legal basis. The best way to fill that demand is with a temporary worker program that gives the workers we need a legal and honest way to come into our country - and return home.

Office of the Press Secretary
May 18, 2006
Fact Sheet: President Requests Funds to Strengthen Border Security

* The United States Is Not Going To Militarize The Southern Border. Mexico is our neighbor and friend. We will continue to work cooperatively to improve security on both sides of the border, confront common problems like drug trafficking and crime, and reduce illegal immigration.
* All Elements Of This Problem Must Be Addressed Together - Or None Of Them Will Be Solved At All. The House has passed an immigration bill. The Senate should act by the end of this month - so that the House and Senate can work out their differences and send the President a comprehensive bill to sign.
* America Needs To Conduct This Debate In A Reasoned And Respectful Tone. Feelings run deep on the matter of immigration - and as we work out this issue, all of us need to keep some things in mind. We cannot build a unified country by inciting people to anger, or playing on anyone's fears, or exploiting the issue of immigration for political gain. We must always remember that real lives will be affected by our debates and decisions, and that every human being has dignity and value no matter what their citizenship papers say.

35 posted on 06/13/2007 11:51:58 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Major Matt Mason

Actually, the Roll Call article was posted just a dozen posts ahead of this one .


36 posted on 06/13/2007 11:53:56 AM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: sgtbono2002
America will have a futiure when the disgust reaches a point that we remove the whole stinking bunch and replace them with ordinary folks and not down on their luck lawyers and rich peckerheads witn royalty complex’s

AMEN.

Now all we need to do is find a way to do this without the gobs and gobs of money neccessary to bribe the MSM.

37 posted on 06/13/2007 12:02:12 PM PDT by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} GO HUNTER '08)
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To: angkor

I too noticed the weasel wording in the 06 bill....was there any mention of the fence in that one?


38 posted on 06/13/2007 12:04:06 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: angkor
After reading this, I honestly don't know if I'm going to be able to buy enough duct tape to survive until this Illegal Alien Amnesty Bill is killed.

I have been asking myself what in the world the politicians have been imbibing, smoking, inhaling, etc. that they can't see what a betrayal of America this bill is and how irate people are to see the give-away of our country. I've come to the conclusion that Michael Savage is right: "Liberalism is a mental disease" and it's obvious it's become highly contagious. Between liberalism and their own self-importantance and greed for power, the politicos have turned a blind eye on "OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE" and I don't think the definition of 'people' in this context meant illegal alien invaders (with the support of their government) ruining our country.

I think the politicians will feel the true meaning of the old "hell hath no fury like a woman citizen/voter/constituent scorned" (and stabbed in the back) saying if this bill passes in ANY form.

39 posted on 06/13/2007 12:51:56 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Democrats can't win unless America loses & their definition of "fairness" is equal misery for all.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Oh heck major eathquake in Guatemala, here comes another flood of illegals...


40 posted on 06/13/2007 12:55:18 PM PDT by rolling_stone (sOME)
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To: rolling_stone

Yes, I am SO OVER that unwritten rule that says if you have an earthquake or a war or a flood or another other disaster in your natal hell hole, you get a free pass to come to our country and get in line for the benefits that American taxpayers pay for.


41 posted on 06/13/2007 1:14:30 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: MissMagnolia
"what in the world the politicians have been imbibing, smoking, inhaling, etc."

Campaign contributions for sure, PAC money probably, outright Cayman Islands bribes maybe.

The DC-based national trade associations (aka K Street Lobbyists) are behind this in a big way.

An Amnesty promoter like The American Meat Institute (meatpacking industry trade association) looks innocuous, but its members represent 70 percent of the American meat processing industry.

One like the Council Of Fast Food Restaurants seems silly, but it represents most of the big fast food franchisers and owners and employs nearly 3 million people (hmmmm.... illegal aliens?)

The U.S. Chamber Of Commerce is a supporter of Amnesty, as is The American Immigration Lawyers Assoc. (the Chamber wants illegals as peasant labor, the lawyers want them as uneducated and illiterate clients).

Those are merely examples. The list of business supporters is long and relentless and wealthy.

But our elected representatives should remember that trade associationss do not and cannot not vote.

42 posted on 06/13/2007 1:17:39 PM PDT by angkor
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To: 3AngelaD

bump


43 posted on 06/13/2007 1:19:16 PM PDT by VOA
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To: stephenjohnbanker
If border security was really important to them they would have passed an emergency bill on 9/12/01,not six years later. These shameless cowards better pray that the terrorists don’t sneak across our border and kill thousands of Americans. What kind of people would put cheap labor above the safety of the American people? Scumbag politicians would.
44 posted on 06/13/2007 1:21:10 PM PDT by peeps36 (OUTLAWED WORDS--INSURGENT,GLOBAL WARMING,UNDOCUMENTED WORKER,PALESTINIAN,TERMINATED PREGNANCY)
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To: peeps36; All

“Worth repeating so all can see!!

“If border security was really important to them they would have passed an emergency bill on 9/12/01,not six years later. These shameless cowards better pray that the terrorists don’t sneak across our border and kill thousands of Americans. What kind of people would put cheap labor above the safety of the American people? Scumbag politicians would.”


45 posted on 06/13/2007 1:29:18 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: peeps36

Yes, they could have secured the border, and the airports, within a month of 9/11 if there had been a will. There would have been plenty of money available for it, and there would have been little or no political resistence, and anyone who protested would have been shouted down. They didn’t want to, but they did manage to make airline travel an unbearable hassle. Despite all the lip service that has been paid to “homeland security,” until the border is secured, I won’t believe them.


46 posted on 06/13/2007 1:31:39 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: angkor

“Because Enforcement Alone Will Not Work....”

this seems to be a mantra of sorts....I want to know WHY enforcement won’t work?!!Breaks up too much of the illegal drug traffic?!!!


47 posted on 06/13/2007 1:34:56 PM PDT by mo
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To: Major Matt Mason

Well DC catches hell for it,but you must remember those creating the problems do come from all over the country. DC is just their meeting place. These are the trash that the electorate sends .


48 posted on 06/13/2007 2:05:32 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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To: sourcery
Add this one to your list

You Tube

Reid

This week, we will vote on cloture and final passage of a comprehensive bill that will strengthen border security, bring the 12 million undocumented Americans out of the shadows, and keep our economy strong. In the days ahead, we will work to improve the bill to protect and strengthen family ties while improving the structure of the temporary-worker program.

49 posted on 06/13/2007 2:21:33 PM PDT by GailA (I'm a quilt-a-holic and proud of it. Run Fred Run!)
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To: 3AngelaD

Lucy-Charlie Brown-football.


50 posted on 06/13/2007 3:31:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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