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Muslim women abuse soldier at troops hospital
Daily Mail ^ | 06/09/07 | MARK NICOL

Posted on 06/09/2007 9:35:39 PM PDT by Pikamax

A British Army officer has been abused by Asian women while on a hospital visit to troops injured in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Company Sergeant Major Neil Powell was surrounded and heckled by three young women in the unprovoked verbal attack at Selly Oak Hospital in Birmingham.

The women, in traditional Asian dress, ranted about the presence of British troops in Muslim countries.

The incident took place in a public area of the hospital used by both civilians and military personnel.

In recent months the standard of treatment for soldiers at Selly Oak has been widely criticised. Military personnel have called for greater protection and privacy away from civilian patients and visitors.

CSM Powell works as a welfare officer for soldiers wounded while fighting insurgents in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan. He was on a regular visit to the wards when the incident occurred on May 10.

He told officers about the abuse but declined to lodge an official complaint. He feared such a negative report would adversely affect the morale of young soldiers who are flown to Selly Oak from the battlefield with horrific injuries.

A colleague said: "He is normally a very placid character, a gentle giant. But he was fuming, understandably, after what happened.

"He couldn’t believe it. CSM Powell just had to stand and take abuse from these screaming and very aggressive women. I don’t think a guy would have got away with it.

"A lot of soldiers are worried that something more serious could happen. There isn’t much security here."

But the Labour MP for Selly Oak, Lynne Jones, refused to back calls for more secure facilities for troops.

She said: "The soldiers seem to want a little empire consisting of their own designated staff and facilities, a fiefdom.

"The point of basing the Centre for Defence Medicine at Selly Oak was to make the most of the range of experience here. The priority should always be the standard of clinical care.

"When I’ve visited the military ward it has been cluttered with staff."

Conservative MP Patrick Mercer said: "We have reason to be extremely cautious about the security of wounded British soldiers and those who care for them.

"Earlier this year, we were told there was a detailed plan to capture a soldier in Birmingham and torture him.

"This incident demonstrates that our troops and their welfare staff are vulnerable. This is an issue we ignore at our peril."

CSM Powell said: "There was a minor incident. Sorry, I am not willing to talk about it. My concern is the morale of the fighting troops.

"I have my own opinions and part of my job is to address those opinions, but I also have a chain of command."

In recent years defence chiefs have closed military hospitals, which benefited from greater security, to cut costs.

As a result, all casualties from Iraq and Afghanistan are streamed through Selly Oak on their return to Britain.

One ward is dedicated to treating injured soldiers, and they are also cared for on other wards alongside civilians.

The Ministry of Defence segregates soldiers according to where they were wounded, either in Iraq or Afghanistan. There are single rooms for the most serious casualties and they are treated by military doctors and nurses.

An MoD spokeswoman said: "A military member of staff was heckled by a small group. He has no clear recollection of what was said and took no formal action.

"It would not be appropriate for me to comment on what Lynne Jones has said."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: americaalone; birmingham; birminghamcell; demographics; eurabia; hospital; islamicimperialism; islamicsupremacists; islamonazism; threats; torture; whywefight
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1 posted on 06/09/2007 9:35:41 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
When I read this I thought it was in-country but alas, Selly Oak Hospital is in Birmingham!
2 posted on 06/09/2007 9:38:41 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: Pikamax

England has a BIG problem.


3 posted on 06/09/2007 9:39:46 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: Pikamax

Does anyone know what floor was this on? I don’t want to suggest defenestration before getting all the facts.


4 posted on 06/09/2007 9:41:28 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Pikamax
But the Labour MP for Selly Oak, Lynne Jones, refused to back calls for more secure facilities for troops.

She said: "The soldiers seem to want a little empire consisting of their own designated staff and facilities, a fiefdom.

Dem politicians in the US would do something similar in a hearbeat if they didn't feel the need to maintain their "support the troops" facade.

5 posted on 06/09/2007 9:45:03 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: Pikamax

“WIth three rounds lock and load....”


6 posted on 06/09/2007 9:45:17 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (The facts of life are conservative -- Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Pikamax

Great Britain no longer is, it seems. A sad, but profitable warning to us, if we will take it.


7 posted on 06/09/2007 9:45:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Pikamax

“ranted about the presence of British troops in Muslim countries”

I think I’ve come up with an equitable solution.


8 posted on 06/09/2007 9:48:14 PM PDT by Sir Clean Plate Club (Gore feels things are getting warmer because he is on his way to Hell)
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To: Pikamax

Violence must soon become the response to the squeaking of internal enemies.


9 posted on 06/09/2007 9:52:32 PM PDT by Sir Clean Plate Club (Gore feels things are getting warmer because he is on his way to Hell)
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To: Pikamax

Why the obfuscation? Asian and Middle Eastern are demonstrably different. The ragheads are trying their best to make major inroads into Asia; Asians (bless their hearts) are resisting the raghead efforts.


10 posted on 06/09/2007 9:52:56 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Pikamax
A British Army officer has been abused by Asian women... The women, in traditional Asian dress...

Asian?? Granted the ME is in Asia proper, but why not identify them as Muslims?

12 posted on 06/09/2007 9:56:53 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Pikamax

Traditional Asian dress? Would that be a kimono? A cheongsan? A sari?
How about a...BURQA!!!!
Islam means peace!/s


13 posted on 06/09/2007 9:57:31 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Sir Clean Plate Club

I was just responding to the thread in general, not to your specific comment.


14 posted on 06/09/2007 9:58:31 PM PDT by rljv
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
“WIth three rounds lock and load....”

nahh..... just a black balaclava , strong right arm and 1 good mag-light.

15 posted on 06/09/2007 9:58:40 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: DTogo

Because you CAN”T OFFEND THE POOR MUSLIMS WITH A NEGATIVE NEWS REPORT. Just like here in the USA .
Mohammad is becoming THE most popular name for new male babes in London —true fact ..


16 posted on 06/09/2007 10:00:19 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Pikamax

Someone could give a tug to their head coverings and then their own families would be obligated to honor kill them.


17 posted on 06/09/2007 10:07:52 PM PDT by donna (...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way... -Mitt)
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To: Pikamax
A British Army officer has been abused by Asian women

Some Brits pay good money for this treatment!

18 posted on 06/09/2007 10:07:58 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Rembrandt

“The ragheads are trying”

It turns out that what Muslims wear on their heads more closely resembles a sheet rather than a rag, so... in the future...

Please refer to them as sheetheads, not ragheads.


19 posted on 06/09/2007 10:17:03 PM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: Rembrandt

It’s not so much an effort to confuse matters as it is they speak another language over there. The English reader would read asian dress and instanly picture the pakistani type dress. American readers associate asian with what they would refer to as oriental.


20 posted on 06/09/2007 10:19:10 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Pikamax

What a great example of press lying with a straight face..

hmm “Surrounded by woman in “tradtional asian garb” who complained about..muslim countries”

So a group of muslim woman in burkhas or head wraps were heckling this officer while he was visiting the hospital were they work at, the press is calling like they wish it was, not how it actually happened.


21 posted on 06/09/2007 10:19:28 PM PDT by padre35 (GWB chose Amnesty as his hill to die on, not Social Security reform.....that speaks much)
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To: Pikamax

“But the Labour MP for Selly Oak, Lynne Jones, refused to back calls for more secure facilities for troops.

She said: “The soldiers seem to want a little empire consisting of their own designated staff and facilities, a fiefdom. “

What a liberal bitch.


22 posted on 06/09/2007 10:19:31 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: Sir Clean Plate Club
I think I’ve come up with an equitable solution.

I thought exactly the same thing after the 2nd paragraph. This makes my blood boil! Were I a Brit, I'd find those muz bit*hes in clear violation of Rule 303.

23 posted on 06/09/2007 10:22:43 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: Pikamax
The “women” should have been escorted to the parking area, knelt down on the ground and shot in the head. We have saved England twice from the Germans. We can not save them from themselves.
24 posted on 06/09/2007 10:40:22 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (You "abort" bad missile launches and carrier landings. Not babies.)
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To: Pikamax
The women, in traditional Asian dress, ranted about the presence of British troops in Muslim countries.

I don't believe in the concept of "Muslim countries". They encourage Islamic Supremacist ideology. The ideology that puts kufir (non-muslims) on a lower rung for human rights and protections. Freedom of religion is a concept that the followers of "The Religion of Peace" do not support.

They take offense at non-muslims "occupying" their land (any physical presence). Jews cannot even enter the county of Saudi Arabia. Non-muslims cannot enter the segregated cities of Mecca and Medina (under penalty of death). There is a death sentence imposed for muslims who convert away from Islam in "muslim countries".

Toss this death cult out on the scrapheap of bad ideas. When Islamic society leads to "Islamic law" and rule by theocracy (and submission of the kufir), then there is no freedom. Oppose despotism.

Worship a meteor if you want, but don't tell the rest of the world that you have to be a muslim to be "anywhere".

25 posted on 06/09/2007 10:55:43 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Frank_2001
Traditional Asian dress? Would that be a kimono? A cheongsan? A sari?

How about a hanbok?!

Somehow I think they were Pakistani and they're referring to this:


26 posted on 06/09/2007 11:09:09 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time!)
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Oh dude.

For some bright minds, life seems to be so much better if they are forced under excessive violence to wear a burka and “enjoy other female privileges of islam”, than to appreciate other people’s efforts to bring some freedom to their part of the world.


27 posted on 06/09/2007 11:25:29 PM PDT by Bazooka (When Tolerance met Indifference, it was love at first sight.)
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To: Pikamax

Company Sergeant Major Neil Powell was surrounded and heckled by three young women in the unprovoked verbal attack at Selly Oak Hospital in Birmingham.

The answer is to kill all the men and create ...ahem...
household servants out of females muzzies such as these.


28 posted on 06/09/2007 11:27:03 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Some Brits pay good money for this treatment!

You beat me to it.


29 posted on 06/10/2007 1:23:26 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: Rembrandt

Most Muslims in Britian are Pakistani/Indian, not Arab. That are indeed Asian, and that’s how they are refered to. BTW, most Muslims in the USA are not Arabs eithers. And surprisingly, most Arab-Americans are not Muslims.


30 posted on 06/10/2007 1:26:29 AM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est.)
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To: BigCinBigD
We have saved England twice from the Germans.

The English Channel and the Royal Navy saved England twice from the Germans. And once from Napoleon.

The USA didn't enter WWII until a year after Hitler was forced to drop his plans for Operation Sealion (the Invasion of Britain). I doubt England could have won WW2 without outside help, but they weren't about to lose it. Sea power works like that.

And WWI wasn't won by the Americans. That is just bizarre. All the hard work of stopping the German warmachine in WWI was done by the French. FReepers seem to fixate on Bellau Wood, but it's a footnote in history. It's like claiming the Russians defeated the Japanese in WW2 - the russians did indeed take over Japanese possessions in Manchuquo at the end of the war, but the hard work of defeating Japan had already been done by the USA.

On the larger thread subject of Islamification - the UK doesn't (yet) have any large self-contained Islamic training camps, or any cases of Islamic freeway snipers, or Sudden Jihad Syndrome with SUVs. Britain is 3% Muslim, and so is the USA. Let's fight Islam in our separate countries and not put each other down, ok?

31 posted on 06/10/2007 3:15:18 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Hugin

>>And surprisingly, most Arab-Americans are not Muslims.

It isn’t surprising at all. They are largely Christian religious refugees from Islam.


32 posted on 06/10/2007 3:19:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Pikamax

Screaming at a British Sargent Major? That’s unheard of!


33 posted on 06/10/2007 3:23:32 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: agere_contra

Okay. What ever you say.


34 posted on 06/10/2007 3:44:41 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (You "abort" bad missile launches and carrier landings. Not babies.)
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“But the Labour MP for Selly Oak, Lynne Jones, refused to back calls for more secure facilities for troops.

She said: “The soldiers seem to want a little empire consisting of their own designated staff and facilities, a fiefdom.”

Lynne Jones must be a muzzie enabler...or just a bitch.


35 posted on 06/10/2007 3:47:59 AM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: endthematrix

So how long before the wounded returnees start dying under their care at this hospital?


36 posted on 06/10/2007 4:00:37 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Americanexpat

Behead the three.


37 posted on 06/10/2007 4:11:34 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: DTogo
Asian??

In Britsh news stories, "Asian" usually means South Asian -- Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi. Because of colonial ties, those were the first waves of immigrants. What Americans usually call Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc.), they call East Asian.

why not identify them as Muslims?

Because reporters aren't paid for their best guesses. One could certainly infer from their dress and comments that they are Muslims -- and because those details are included in the story, the reader can infer that, too.

38 posted on 06/10/2007 4:28:03 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Hugin
Most Muslims in Britian are Pakistani/Indian, not Arab. That are indeed Asian, and that’s how they are refered to. BTW, most Muslims in the USA are not Arabs eithers. And surprisingly, most Arab-Americans are not Muslims.

Most of the Muslims in the world aren't Arabs. The single largest Muslim population in the world is in Indonesia. Throw in the Indians, Pakistanis, Africans, southern Europeans, Southeast Asians, Persians and Turks, and Arabs are not a majority -- though I believe they're still a plurality -- of Muslims.

39 posted on 06/10/2007 4:33:42 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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You must realize that there are no military hospitals in the UK -- No Walter Reeds, no Bethesdas, no Malcolm Grow. British uniformed personnel needing inpatient care are put into the "general population" of National Health Service facilities, for better or worse. There have been several instances where soldiers' mates have intervened in hospitals where the (Muslim) staff have neglected or abused them by messing with their food, sanitation, IVs, etc.

I am told that Brit soldiers in Iraq facing medevac out of theater beg to go to Landstuhl rather than an urban hellhole hospital back in the UK. Another thing to look forward to when HillaryCare arrives!

40 posted on 06/10/2007 4:35:36 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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I was going to respond ,”It is coming this way”.

I would have been wrong. It is already here. It is also aided and abetted by the msm and Democrat Party.


41 posted on 06/10/2007 4:42:10 AM PDT by sport
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She said: "The soldiers seem to want a little empire consisting of their own designated staff and facilities, a fiefdom.

Let me guess.... she's an anti-war moron while she's protecting what seems to be her own little fiefdom.

42 posted on 06/10/2007 4:46:01 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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Someone could give a tug to their head coverings and then their own families would be obligated to honor kill them.

I am shocked an appalled someone would suggest something like this... Personally, I feel stepping on their sari would be better. ;-)

43 posted on 06/10/2007 5:53:13 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: donna

Or burka... whichever works... :)


44 posted on 06/10/2007 5:56:40 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: ReignOfError
Asian??

On a related point of transatlantic idiosyncracies in the use of English, it sometimes strikes me as mildly intriguing that for Americans, as for Europeans, the entire continent of Asia seems to be 'East'; although for many Americans much of Asia is in fact, er....West.

45 posted on 06/10/2007 9:25:10 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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So how long before the wounded returnees start dying under their care at this hospital?

If they do, you can bet their names will wind up on the "Bush's fault" war dead list. Even if the injury or illness is not combat related, they appear on the list. WHY? Because the list is not compiled by the government or anyone with an objective eye. It is compiled by the Left. They even included a woman who died crossing the highway in Kansas. Her name was later removed from some copies of the list. A man who died of a forklift accident in Kuwait that same week remains on the list of "Bush's fault" "victims".

46 posted on 06/10/2007 9:27:36 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Pikamax
What were those sluts doing out in public, unattended by male relatives, speaking to a man who wasn't a husband or family member? How dare they raise their voices to their betters>

They should be lashed or stoned. /mooselimb

47 posted on 06/10/2007 9:28:36 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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Not as bad as the head chopping, burning, and being dragged through the streets that many Westerners get for being in a country ruled by the cult of death.


48 posted on 06/10/2007 9:37:12 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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I am shocked an appalled someone would suggest something like this... Personally, I feel stepping on their sari would be better. ;-)

Let them die of embarrassment! LOL!

49 posted on 06/10/2007 12:12:06 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time!)
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To: DTogo
Asian?? Granted the ME is in Asia proper, but why not identify them as Muslims?

Asian is Britspeak for Pakistani and Indian. Oriental is Britspeak for Asian...

but why not identify them as Muslims?

møøslimb trouble makers are NEVER identified as møøslimb. It offends the møøslimbs to tell the truth about them.

Didn't you get the memo???

50 posted on 06/10/2007 12:17:30 PM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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